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 Post subject: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:30 pm 
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See he has been banned from Facebook and had his You Tube channel taken down , for comments made about Covid-19

Whatever you think about his theories , and over the years they have become more bizarre , this cant be right.

Most people think he is as mad as a hatter , but a few think he has a point.

At the end of the day no one is forced to listen to him.

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:37 pm 
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He’s a manipulative conman who’s exploited vulnerable and gullible people to make millions over the years.

I think you have to draw a line with mad conspiracy theorists somewhere at a time like this you only have to look at the fruit loops vandalising phone masts to see that these can be dangerous.

It’s similar to the likes of Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins with the people with brown skin being substituted for some half human lizards.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:49 pm 
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I still cant believe he actually played against us for Hereford in the early 70s!


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:55 pm 
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I have no issues with him , though a lot of what he says is laughable , but he has his opinion, whether or not we agree with it he is still a free man with a free voice....makes you wonder though, why are they blocking him? what are they scared of?

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:00 pm 
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Because it’s not really a time for all of that nonsense.

People out in the streets protesting about this being a hoax or setting fire to phone masts are putting stress on the emergency services and potentially spreading a deadly virus.

Mind you on that basis Trump needs booting off Twitter as well!!


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:10 pm 
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Does this mean PJ is now in favour of Censorship? I thought you weren't on another thread? I'm confused. :wink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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He can now go and devote all of his time to his motorcycle business...'David Ickes Superbikes'

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:46 pm 
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Didn’t he call out the BBC in the very early nineties regarding issues with pedophiles and massive cover ups within the establishment etc?


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:03 pm 
Micky fisher ate my socks too wrote:
Didn’t he call out the BBC in the very early nineties regarding issues with pedophiles and massive cover ups within the establishment etc?



So did Johnny Rotten and lots of others


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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John Carpenters film They Live is not true ?? sctatchinghead

good little B-film if anyone hasn't seen it..and a couple of years before he met the psychic.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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Does this mean PJ is now in favour of Censorship? I thought you weren't on another thread? I'm confused. :wink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Yeah, he has recommended me as Chief Moderator for Facebook, :laugh: :wink: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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horden wrote:
I have no issues with him , though a lot of what he says is laughable , but he has his opinion, whether or not we agree with it he is still a free man with a free voice....makes you wonder though, why are they blocking him? what are they scared of?



I agree though. The video in question that first got him removed from YouTube was actually really tame. Which, compared to what I've seen stay on Youtube does make me raise questions.

For the record I feel he always starts off pretty good, but quickly spoils it as soon as he mentions lizard brains and mind control devices.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 9:56 am 
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I agree though. The video in question that first got him removed from YouTube was actually really tame. Which, compared to what I've seen stay on Youtube does make me raise questions.

For the record I feel he always starts off pretty good, but quickly spoils it as soon as he mentions lizard brains and mind control devices.

thats the way i saw it. got a feeling he will not be the last for dissenters of the virus.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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It could be worse than being removed from social media for your views. 3 Russian doctors have fallen out of hospital windows recently. All 3 had spoken out against the Russian government prior to these unfortunate accidents.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 11:36 am 
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Like some have said the issue is censorship and we all know where that road can lead - nazi Germany comes to mind. Also for the record and supporting Remote Poolie he does start off all plausible and makes you think until the Lizard people etc comes into it. As far as I am concerned the guy can spout what he likes and its up to other to form and opinion and disagree with him if they have a mind to. That's freedom of speech pure and simple. What next "fair game" shutting the Bunker down because someone says Dave Jones was the best manager Pools ever had.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 8:23 pm 
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Difficult to decide who is the most deluded, someone who thinks that Dave Jones was a good manager or Dave Icke.

Dave Jones didn't even start off convincing.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 10:33 pm 
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Hey Charco love your posts. I am probably an old man who has not read this right? Are you suggesting i think David Jones was a good manager? I wasn't - quite the contrary. I was attempting poorly I guess, an example to support my upholding of freedom of speech. I suspect nobody who supports Pools thought he was any good but if someone suggested he was - well that's their right and not to have that view suppressed. Same for David Icke. Dunno if Martin Scott was a lizard. Didn't go down very well with Pools did he? I'm not an academic and left school at 14 with no educational qualifications. All I am saying is people have the right to say what they think within the law and others have the right to agree or disagree and state why they do? I hope that clears things up but I suspect not. Even if you disagree with me I love Poolies everywhere.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2020 11:05 pm 
They are saying Covid 19 is a cover for 5G. That 5G damages the immune system so Covid kills you. Plus encouraging people to destroy masts used to enable calls to the emergency services during a pandemic. Quite fucking rightly the companies rolling out 5G have told You Tube to remove any videos suggesting this or they will sue them.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:
Hey Charco love your posts. I am probably an old man who has not read this right? Are you suggesting i think David Jones was a good manager? I wasn't - quite the contrary. I was attempting poorly I guess, an example to support my upholding of freedom of speech. I suspect nobody who supports Pools thought he was any good but if someone suggested he was - well that's their right and not to have that view suppressed. Same for David Icke. Dunno if Martin Scott was a lizard. Didn't go down very well with Pools did he? I'm not an academic and left school at 14 with no educational qualifications. All I am saying is people have the right to say what they think within the law and others have the right to agree or disagree and state why they do? I hope that clears things up but I suspect not. Even if you disagree with me I love Poolies everywhere.


How many good managers have we actually had? Could count them on one hand with probably a finger to spare :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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The problem with allowing david icke to have a platform is young people watch him, take in everything he says is the truth, and go knock down 5g towers and do other crazy shite like that based on his bat shit crazy theories.

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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A bit like believing Tony Blair then and his weapons of mass destruction theory. Wrongdoing has to be called out and people have to be allowed a platform to do that , most of it may prove to be incorrect but some of it wont be, the odd bad apple in the barrel like Icke is a price worth paying IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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ban everyone like iicke then you would only get the mainstream pap thats given out to believe or not. you always need an alternative view on everything if you actually have a thinking mind to make up. at least people nowadays can still see an alternative view on subject unlike it was when i was growing up in the 50,s. it basically was one way or no way.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2020 10:20 am 
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I don't think anyone should be 'banned' from saying anything that isn't illegal nobody is suggesting that. It has nothing to do with censorship more peoples safety and common sense.

Social media is a powerful and dangerous tool at the best of times, especially at a time like this. Anyone with iota of common sense would not take the word of David Icke seriously or literally. But the blokes bank balance tells you a lot of extremely gullible and impressionable people live on this planet. That's fairly harmless in normal circumstances but right now suggesting this is some sort of hoax so the lizards can control us and urging that people take to the streets is actual posing a danger to human life as those people might spread further a deadly virus.

Mind today's Sun headline again shows staggering irresponsibility 'Happy Monday' how does everyone think it's dwindling readership will react to that this weekend with it's nice forecast?


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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To be fair I find Icke fairly harmless compared to the likes of Tommy Robinson, Anjem Choudary and any one of those countless far right radio hosts the US has (think Alex Jones)


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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That’s true but I understand why his nonsense is being shut down now.

At the end the days he businessman he’ll be delighted like this its ‘evidence’ that the establishment want to shut his views down because he’s into something, win win.


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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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I find Alex Jones attractive.

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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Icke is a bit crazy and has been banned from Facebook and YouTube i believe.
Are not the statements from Trump in recent weeks equally serious?

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:16 am 
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I find you generally only get banned from anything , if you are seen as a threat to what is perceived as the norm/status quo. First though they try and undermine you by ridicule or saying you are bonkers , if that fails then comes the ban. Just think of all those in the past that have been a threat to the Capitalist system , that they have done this to . Trump is a maverick Capitalist , seen as dangerous by most other capitalists , but a capitalist and a believer in the free market nevertheless , hence he so far remains , despite some outrageous remarks , remains relatively untouched.

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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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They keep Trump for his entertainment value. When he has outlived his usefulness he'll get ditched.
I was always surprised that John Wayne never got the job.
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 Post subject: Re: David Icke
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Icke is a bit crazy and has been banned from Facebook and YouTube i believe.
Are not the statements from Trump in recent weeks equally serious?


First, for all the Free Speech arguments, the likes of Youtube, Facebook and Twitter are owned by companies - who are perfectly entitled to decide what they do or don't have on their platforms. A bit like the Newspapers, but (galling to the likes of Murdoch) with a reach far beyond what they ever had. Should a Free Speech argument be used to force them to allow stuff from the likes of Icke to be posted, I would expect a similar principle to mean that Kier Starmer should be allowed a weekly column in the Telegraph...

This also explains the likes of Trump being allowed to tweet his dangerous nonsense. It's a commercial decision: millions follow Trump on Twitter, a number of them admittedly out of curiousity rather than because they support him; take him off there, and they do themselves considerable commercial harm due to people rage quitting and joining whatever platform he decides to use instead. Keep him there, and their number of visitors (and hence ad sales) stays higher. Icke however is small beer on that front; and given the general mood of the population it will generate more goodwill to Facebook if they boot him than if they try and justify allowing him to use their platform for his rants about Lizards, 5G, and Turquoise Tracksuits.

Trump is becoming a problem for Twitter though, as there are plenty of people now asking why he seems not to have to abide by the terms and conditions everyone else has to apply on the platform. Cases in point include his promotion of Hydroxychloroquine, and false allegations against Joe Scarbrough regarding the death of an aide some years ago. Normal people would soon find themselves booted for this, but Twitter don't want to remove the sitting President as it would inevitably be seen as making a political decision and see all his supporters speak out against them. They also know though that this pisses off the Democrats and their supporters, who might decide to put a closer eye on Social Media platforms should they have the power to do so following the elections in November... So all of them - Facebook, Twitter, Youtube etc - continue to play the game of both ends against the middle...

Of course, the alternative is that I'm a Lizard.


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