Assuming the virus doesn't reach him first, how much more radged does he have to get before they send in the fellers in white coats?

He needs removing from office by whatever means it takes.

A very dangerous man at a time like this who could cause the World a lot of damage.

The stuff with WHO and about China is just subterfuge to distract from his own horrific failings. Like our government he had all the warnings from January onwards and they are documented. China locked down Wuhan on January 23rd and when I say locked down they closed it off from the World, nobody got in or out. They did not piss about and it worked. I think it’s reasonable to doubt Chinas stats but to suggest this virus was some closely guarded secret before it was too late to act is disgraceful blame shifting. Trump is an appalling human being. We should be learning lessons and listening to China now why we tackle it and beat them let the finger pointing come afterwards.

An absurd orange man child it is actually incredible that he’s a World leader and scary at a time like this. He would start a World War to protect himself.

Has he pardoned Tiger King Joe yet ?

If you were American you would have one of those red ‘Make America Great Again’ hats. You would wear it all at all times

What a load of bollocks.

I would ask you to elaborate but we all know you aren’t capable of full adult joined up sentences. The WHO reported covid-19 on December 31st. The World has been aware of this since then. Trump was warned at the end January by his own advisors how serious this could be, he was still calling it a bit of flu of a matter of weeks ago.

You believe in statements from the Chinese government PJ ?

I doubt the figures in terms of deaths and cases, it seems implausibly low but when they locked down they did a proper job of it. They completely shut off Wuhan from the rest of the World they didn’t keep the airport and metro open. You stayed in the house or probably got shot.

But the indisputable fact is they are coming out of the other side of it now, so lessons can be learned from them and knowledge can be passed. I want life to return to normal as quickly as possible so I would rather the World worked together than get involved in finger pointing at this stage. People like Trump can easily distract people like you from their own failings by just being a bit racist.

Finger pointing at China has become racist in your opinion PJ?

No but him calling it the ‘Chinese Virus’ which he spent a week doing was.

The Yanks report having the same problem as us though. Really unpopular options to choose from on their last ekection. Perhaps that might change.

if it started there then thats where it started. are we going to change names of stuff like german measles, asian flu etc in our fear of never upsetting anyone. if it started in wigan i could see no harm in it being called the english virus.

You think he was just saying because that’s where it came from and it wasn’t part of his wider agenda?

Seems plausible.....

It is not even on the same planet as how a World leader should be acting at a time like this.

I have to say that on that particular point I disagree with PJ. The chinese need to be brought to book over this. Its pretty well established that their scandalous hygiene standards at their markets caused this. Its not about playing the blame game, but someone was resposnible for thousands of deaths, and world economies crashing. And it was China.

And guess where most of our PPE is now coming from?

I haven’t suggested once that they shouldn’t be brought to book over this.

The fallout will be enormous and China needs to come under a lot of scrutiny to limit the chances of this happening again on this scale. Those wet markets are barbaric.

But just not now, not yet, the virus is here people are dying we need to deal with what is facing us first. China actually dealt with it.

This photo has been confirmed as authentic by the most reliable myth debunker on the Internet.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... rus-notes/

Read into it what you will.

The most surprising thing is that he can write.

Wasn't the Spanish Flu said to have originated from Texas ?

Kansas I think but in any case a dusty US state. Brought to Europe by WWI troops. That's one theory.
But how did it get to Kansas?

Pony express has just this minute been suggested to me.

It crossed over from birds apparently Sr Monty. Someone in a bird rearing farm. Much like SARS I suppose.

Fair enough

I think we can confirm this is authentic as Trump is the only person in the world who uses a black magic marker instead of a pen when writing notes, memo's, signatures etc.

Or did Dorothy bring it back with her?

I don't get folk saying they don't believe the Chinese government, do the same people believe ours? Fucking barmy if they do.

I think only the Taiwanese government can hold their heads high after all of this. Just over 100 miles from mainland China and they went straight into lockdown while the rest of the world were allowing people to die for several months. I believe their death toll stands at 6.

Why this has been allowed to get this far is one thing but the continued failings of our own government are what we need to focus on now, not the Chinese. Anyone who says Boris did a good job deserves to eat bat soup.

mistakes have been made by this country and others as well. does not get away from the fact that like everything else it started somewhere.

Yes it started somewhere, so why weren't borders shut down immediately when it was obviously a problem? Money is the only reason lets face it.

It started in China and if you really believe that it started in a meat market which has being going for many decades and not the large biological weapons plant a few miles up the road then you’re just plain gullible.

Agree Mi what they are saying is the animals the tests were carried out on were not destroyed they were sold to the market alive.

The Chinese government almost certainly lied and at times ignored the Coronavirus. No way did they only have 3,300 deaths. Incinerators all over the country apparently turned on after years of disuse, wonder why. A major Coronavirus whistleblower was ignored https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51364382, and thus died of the virus. And during all this China spend a majority of it's time banning pro Hong Kong posts online instead.

I wouldn't even trust the Chinese government to tell me the time correctly, and that's not even a joke! China has one timezone which is made to almost deliberately screw over the Uyghur minority in the far west. Should be noted if they protest they also get sent to concentration camps.

The Chinese government were always shady but in recent years have sunk to new levels of deplorable behavior, no wonder those Hong Kongers are so scared.

As for Drumpf, well, I think now people there are beginning to realize perhaps a reality TV show host *gasp*, isn't a good leader?!

Not forgetting they have vast surveillance in the form of hat cams.

Reading this thread , I don't hold out much hope for the Chinese restaurant / takeaway industry in the UK post virus.

Not sure why you'd need to develop a new pandemic when the proven H1N1 is still available to anyone who makes the effort and mutates at the blink of an eye.
Or why they'd make sure it killed their own people first.
I call your just plain gullible and raise you just plain conspiracist.

If the allegations that appear to be emerging have any truth to them, then nor do I.

I'm sorry if you feel allegations appear to be emerging.

My guess is not that it was an intentional release, it’s more likely that a worker in the plant became patient zero whilst working on it.

Of course it was the virus that killed him

No need to be sorry, Monty. Allegations of one sort or another are emerging all the time.

You either missed the reference, Derwent, or else you're being even more non-clue signalling than I am.

Any news on the Doctor's and Professor's who disappeared after they turned Whistleblowers ?

It made me laugh Monty!

me too.

Just realised I have joined the ME TOO group.

Right over the Top, Monty,

He thinks the US can be Covid free by May 1st.

Which year though.

He was trying to say "May the US be the first to be Covid free" but you know, Trump...

People like him, people on here like him too, they like racist arseholes, because by association they are racist arseholes too
Priti Patel and co model themselves on his shouty, narcissistic approach