[quote="Jamie1952"]They are talking about banning petrol and diesel cars by 2030/35, is that a global ban.
you,ll be fine if you own a mid size or large diesel car. you,ll be able to sell it for a profit to most west africal countries for em to be used as taxi,s. had a good little earner a few years ago buying peugeot 505 estates and exporting em to gambia.

Absolute hogwash! The children engaging in this are arguably more intelligent and passionate than any others. And what's the crime here? Caring about the entire planet over sitting in a classroom?

The effects of global warming are black and white. Just look at all the extreme weather and rising temperatures. I'm not the biggest climate change activist...but to insinuate that children are only doing this as a way out of school, that is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever read on this forum. They're seeing first hand how weather is changing and they'll have to live in that future.

As for this generation been the most consumerist. That is also rubbish. Most lease things such as cars and some don't even drive. A larger proportion are vegan compared to generations before them. The older generations bought things such as CDs and vinyl, now it's streamed. Same for books and video games. I personally typed this message on a laptop from 2015 I've owned for years, how consumerist of me!

But sure. It's all generation Z's fault, those evil truanting freaks!

I dont know what middle class bubble you're living in but I can assure you it doesn't effect the real world. I would have liked to have seen the numbers that would have turned up to a rally on a weekend day. They all apparently pile into the local McDonalds at dinner time for some meat burgers. Sounds typical to me and to my teenage sons agree.

I was talking about the young generation being consumerist. We were better than they in so many ways. Perhaps it is they who need to take lessons from Joe we were ad children?

Im not particularly attached to having my car propelled by a diesel engine. If there was an alternative for the same price (or even cheaper), same reliability and same convenience then I would readily take it (including public transport). Thats trully going to be the situation ten years time. Instead of making greener transport the easy option for people to influence their habbits (like most of Europe) the UK just taxes and legislates.

As long as the average human lives till about 80 year old then they ain't gunna giv a fuck about climate change.
Unless some do-gooder can come up with a plan to make some cash for themselves while they pretend to be bothered.

Yes but we have to leave 1950s values behind. Back then anybody could do WTF they wanted because we weren't aware of the sleeping catastrophe. People don't have an inborn right to drive any way or anywhere they want: roads didn't just appear out of nowhere. If a government says sorry mate but knowing what we know now means you no longer have access to cheap roads unless you stop polluting, then at least they are showing a (very) rare sense of responsibility.
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Its been done elsewhere in Europe. Its literally a no brainer in some places. Why jump in the car when there's affordable reliable public transport. This government...... we'll force people into electric cars that they cant afford to buy cant charge from a terraced horse (thats IF the extra nuclear power stations get built) or they force us into expensive unsuitable public transport. Properly naive.

Couldn’t have put it better.

In ten years time we'll be running out of oil.

And all this electric shit you are spunking in your pants over will be revealed to be the pie in the sky that it's always been.

That's one of the problems. How does responding to somebody who says that batteries can't work as long range power sources by pointing out genuine, clear examples of how they're developing very rapidly, become 'spunking your pants' about 'electric shit'?

Why does every discussion have to be polarised? The only sensible reason I can think of is that your main objectives are to draw attention to yourself or show off to a bunch of third rate Jeremy Clarksons. Bit sad really.

might be thick but i do not understand your response. if we are actually running out of oil,and that being a fact not just what we are told, then we will need an alternative. at my age,unless i,m as luck as my mam, it will not bother me anyway. do know that me and my 31 year old son will be the last diesel owners in our respective villages.

1. You know nothing about me
2. It wouldnt be relevant anyway
3. Considering points 1 and 2, its a bit weird to try and make it personal about me. Does nobody do civilised debate any more?

Personally I'm not attached to ICEs. I just want a VIABLE alternative. We're not going to get that on this pie in the sky timeline. Let's be a bit more sensible about this and leave the naive idealism to the kids.... unless you've got 30k burning hole then you're alright Jack.

We are not running out of oil there is shed loads of the stuff all over..........try the South Atlantic as an example (although John Nott denied any existence of oil in the area ) and it will be tapped when other easier sources dry up. Technological advances make it easier and cost effective to exploit.

No one in the history of time, young or old, has ever said "I'm going to mcdonalds for a meat burger"

I know. That was the point of phrasing it like that. Also, there were no speech marks. Dear God!