Oh do so fuck right off!

Get yourself off to China and India and sort them out then come back and lecture one of the cleanest countries in the world.



https://youtu.be/O5PiWBMjbXc

Did you know the owner of Forest Green once wanted to buy a club in Scotland?

Gretna Thunberg...

If she and her follows want to make a difference, they can stand for election like everybody else when they come of age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_mzsMyTCJI

I'd say the Corona virus is a little more pressing at the moment anyhow.

I find it ironic the same people who say the youth don't care about the community (littering, damage etc.) call out Greta as an "extremist".

The comment Arron Banks made about her was disgusting too

I don’t disagree in some respects MJ but China are still building coal fired power stations and in New Delhi you can’t breathe for pollution. I was in Cebu last year and was shocked by the pollution at street level. Traffic is mind boggling and they are all old cars belching out clouds of smoke.

My point is that the UK is already working very hard to clean up. If Thunberg wants to bring her influence to bear then she needs to go to the highest polluters first and that ain’t us.

She needs to start with this list. Bristol isn’t on It.

https://gulfnews.com/photos/news/who-ar ... 44?slide=6

Completely agree with madJohn.

Whereas we have a government that has approved HS2 which will bankrupt whatever party is in government and will never be finished and will destroy mile after mile of countryside

And I completely agree with everyone apart from Mr. I....sorry I.
I've also heard that there's a Right Wing version of Greta who the likes of Trump are championing....I wonder if Mr.I supports her views????

Nothing will alter until the likes of the Brazilian and USA leaders are removed.
She is raising awareness of a global issue and it is sad a young girl had to take the initiative, I applaud her.

Never heard of her before today but the cause she's championing is a hell of a lot more important than a disease that will probably never kill anywhere near as many people as die from flu in a single year.
When it comes to priorities, we're long past the stage where "climate needs thinking about or we could be in the shit".

its not what she actually says that gets me its just her and how she puts her message over that gets me riled. reminds me of one of those deep south yankie preacher types we used to hear.

Because some people cannot comprehend the existence of things until it happens to them. While some people prefer to live by ignorance is bliss and just ignore the problems hoping they'll go away. While some more people are away how they're damaging the planet, but they don't care and won't change their ways.

I ask the same thing you just said about how people tolerate the escalating poverty and divide in the world.

Yes but why do it in the UK where we are trying to clean our act up, try making those speeches in the States, Russia or China albeit that couldn’t happen just now in China.
Who writes he speeches, I believe she is being used by a third party because of her age, hey a load of school kids in where ever playing truant isn’t going to change nowt.
The miners tied for a year plus and they never changed bot all apart from them all losing their jobs eventually.

She will probably be here to suffer what the world is doing........... a lot of us here won't.

...however, given the amount of stuff that we buy from China and India, if people across the developed world start reducing the amount they buy, and paying more attention to how what they do buy is produced (wherever it is produced) then it will be more in the interests of those more polluting countries to get their act together... and it can have an impact - Apple for example are very sensitive about how workers are treated in factories making their phones in China, as they don't want the bad publicity if it comes out that they've been mistreated. What if they decide that to keep their customer base happy they will start insisting on greener practices in those factories too?

Also, I like Greta; if nothing else, she has shown a remarkable ability to get under Trump's skin and make him look witless to boot. He still hasn't realised that he's entered a battle of wits with a teenage girl - and she's winning...

The economic model on which the world runs is based on the exploitation of unlimited natural resources, the promotion of consumption and the resultant pollution that is created.
Mr Salopian is correct in that the consumers in the developed countries need to act or be steered away (tax breaks/penalties) from polluting products and for the likes of China/ India to respond to consumer preferences/demand.
Population growth needs to be reversed which is driving all of this but it never seems to get mentioned.
But to be honest i think we are all fucked.........so lets go out with a bang!

It's a bit ironic using the miners as an example when the abandoning of coal is exactly one of the things this planet needs to survive.
And I don't believe you're obtuse enough to think that just because the miners didn't win their cause, nobody else can.
So why are you advocating short sightedness? This is a problem that affects the whole planet. What's stupid about trying to rope the whole planet in to the battle?
As for Britain cleaning its act up, are you really, really sure we don't need to do more? Who comforted you about that?

Most middle aged people aren't bothered about climate change because they will be dead bfor it kicks in to do serious damage in about 100 years.

But it defo slowly but surely is happening.
Not a lot you can do about the weather tho and rising sea levels.

Greenland icemelt which is getting worse every year will erode the British Isles coastline.

Wudent mind living to 350 just to see what happens.

Don't think this little girl is really bothered like just paving the way to get a good payed job in politics or shit like that because she can talk a good game.

Having been to several major uk cities Birmingham Leeds Manchester to name a few the level of air pollution is horrendous. All are breathing this shit in resulting in spikes of respiratory related disease and illness.
Pick a bogey after you have have been to one of these places and you will see what i mean.

So a 14/15 year old is going to change the thinking of the biggest polluters India, China, USA ? We stop polluting in the UK the big industries just move on to another country set up there and do what ever they want.

As I said try standing some where in India, Russia or China get the kids there to play truant and see where she would end up, she only does it in the UK because we are a soft touch. I hope all the parents of the kids who took the day of get fined for them having time of and probably most of them just taking the opportunity to bunk of not knowing what for. At the end of the day they have no idea what actually happens in the big wide world, how many of them actually read newspapers watch the news etc ?

The young generation of today are the biggest polluters with crave for fast food, soft drinks creating mountains of waste and modern technology which when obsolete gets shipped of to some third country to be dismantled for scrap by kids working in horrendous conditions.

The UK is probably one of the least polluters on the planet but mostly down to the fact we have no industry, Service Industry jobs in general paying the minimum wage and zero hours contracts.

To add to my post what mode of transport has she been using in her thousands of miles of travel, they haven't invented a long distance electric plane yet as far as I know ?

not a scientist and probably know as much or as little about the subject as many others do who quote this and that to make their point. all i would say is that climate change is more of a new religeon to most. as with all religeons those who do not believe are thought of a misguided cranks and they are the ones who would change the world. remember it aint all that long ago where to be an atheist or a republican was frounded on by the great majority.

after these last 3 posts its OK now. The world is saved and Greta can go back to School. In Boris Johnson and Doanld Trump we trust. Thanks for putting my mind at rest. Jesus wept.

The young will be the people to influence in 10/20 years lets hope they do a good job.

BBC have just reported air pollution being now linked equally with smoking............i feel privileged that i live in a town whos polluting industries have been destroyed by a far thinking government.

I don’t have a lawn nor a dog, so don’t comprehend what you mean.

OK but do you have sand you can bury your head in?

I've read the thread and what impressed me most was the fact that her parents called her Tintin, almost forseeing the political activism.

Has she ever met Snowy?

Where do you think Bristol buys most of its polluting crap from?... she protests with/to the the consumers and the producers change their ways and learn to produce less damaging products using less damaging production methods. Its your beloved market forces/capitalism in action.

Are you actually saying climate change isn’t happening? Or the fact it is has created a new religion? Either way I really don’t get what your saying when the proof is in front of your eyes that every scientist says we need to do something and fast. But I agree no matter what we do in UK means fuck all if the biggest superpowers don’t

I think the world needs to realise when it all goes to crap and the natural world is dying we can’t eat or breath money. Stop killing the biggest world resources for a quick pound but it’s easy to say in the uk where we are richer than most of world as we go to bed in a house and not hungry. If I lived in a jungle and I could cut the trees down to feed my family I would. It comes to governments to change and any person young or old saying this needs to be applauded

I think the world needs to realise when it all goes to crap and the natural world is dying we can’t eat or breath money. Stop killing the biggest world resources for a quick pound but it’s easy to say in the uk where we are richer than most of world as we go to bed in a house and not hungry. If I lived in a jungle and I could cut the trees down to feed my family I would. It comes to governments to change and any person young or old saying this needs to be applauded

Don’t live near a beach either.

Where do the young people get their facts from as the majority have their faces buried in a phone, even is pub, what’s the first thing people do, get their phone out and it’s not to read the news.

I personally don’t read newspapers, they only print what they want you to read and it’s in general yesterday’s news.

The Utilities companies the majority of them foreign owned are ripping the a*se out of us with all the green energy subsidies for what, to keep the shareholders pockets lined. In Germany the majority of electricity is generated by fossil fuels and as in the States who don’t appear to trying to move towards green energy.

China's overseas ventures include hundreds of electric power plants that burn coal, which is a significant emitter of the carbon scientifically linked to climate change. Edward Cunningham, a specialist on China and its energy markets at Harvard University, tells NPR that China is building or planning more than 300 coal plants in places as widely spread as Turkey, Vietnam, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Egypt and the Philippines.


How many posters on here use public transport or cycle to work, very few I think, they jump into the car and drive to work. How many of all those kids actually walk to school, just go past any school and count how many are dropped of by the parents in cars. Yes we have an abysmal transport system compared to Europe.

The demise of the transport system was brought about when private enterprise were allowed to buy into it again now owned by foreign investors in fact some European governments have shares in them. It’s all about profit and routes which didn’t make money ceased to operate. Those companies don’t give a **** about going green, it’s ll about profit.

One of Labours Policies was to renationalise all the Utility Companies and Railways, the family silver sold of by Thatcher. Yes I agreed with Labours policies on that but tbh there was no way it could happen due to the amount of money involved.

Get your head round this fellas a young teenage kid and a little island in the North Sea is not going to change anything. Energy suppliers will always be striving for profit and going green is very expensive not unless it’s subsidised. Drax Power Station has received billions of pounds in subsidies to convert to biomass all paid by the tax payer us, the fuel is wooden pellets shipped from the Stares in diesel powered ships, it then has to transported to the Station in diesel driven transport. Burning biomass produces one and a half times the amount of carbon dioxide than coal, doesn’t sound very green to me ?

I think you're confusing us here Jamie (mind, you're not the only one).
Do you want the world to do something or not?
Is the UK dead clean or not?

The majority of the countries won’t do nowt, the rich will carry on getting richer unfortunately and don’t give a toss about anyone else or the planet as long as the money keeps flowing to their Bank Accounts, it’s called capitalism.

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Are you actually saying climate change isn’t happening? Or the fact it is has created a new religion? Either way I really don’t get what your saying when the proof is in front of your eyes that every scientist says we need to do something and fast.
climate has been changing since before the dinasoars ruled the world. it will carry on changing with or without this green stuff. since the big ice age there has been a handful of mini ones as well. doubt anyone knows what the climate was like say between 1020 and 1320 when compared with the previous 300 years. just because it can be proved over the last 300 years that there has been a warming does not mean that its a permanent warming. this is only a minute time period in the history of the planet anyway. not saying i,m correct unlike millions of others who have totally bought into the subject without any knowledge whatsoever about it.

No, but they have invented boats that can cross the Atlantic using wind and solar power. The wind bit isn't even new given the vikings did it but they didn't have solar panels so I'm counting the combination as an invention.

Wouldn't really be a practical option for all travel but it looks like the teenager anticipated this sort of criticism from irate old gadgies and decided to avoid it and publicise alternative power sources at the same time.

I'm a bit surprised you didn't notice her doing this as it was all over the TV news, newspapers and online media at the time.

It's almost as if there's no harm to her trying to spread a good message.

Why anyone would get irate or even mildly irked about this is beyond me. Not least middle aged men on a football forum.

As stated before strict population control would go a long way to help avoid climate control in the future so;
"buy one and stop one"

Feeble European johnnies like those won't stop proper, stronger swimming, British spunk from making babies with full sovereignty over their own fishing waters.

We even know how they pronounced old-to-middle English. Knowing what the climate was like is a walk in the park.

Scientists can't fight nature, not yet at least, but they are armed to the teeth with workarounds. Fortunately none of them require Bunker approval. (Boomer speaking btw).

I'd like a union jack, cheese and onion flavoured tickler please.

Yes British chaps need something stronger like these;

YSagami 0.09mm + Super Dot Condoms (0.09mm thick)
Durex Extra Strength (0.08 mm thick)
Trustex Assorted Flavors Extra Strength (0.09 mm thick)
Lifestyles Ultra Ribbed (0.08 mm thick)
EXS Extra Safe (0.072 mm thick)
Durex Performax (0.07 mm thick) – this one also contains a special lubricant that helps you last longer
Trojan Magnum (0.07 mm thick)

Available on Amazon Prime as long as you can wait until tomorrow.

Don't forget Boris' British Brexit Blobs (unbelievably thick)

I think the annoyance comes from our generation being absolutely slated by the most voraciously consumerist generation that ever existed.

No they're not. They're just doing as they've always done, hoping there's another chance to skip a day of their free education. I do believe there are measures we can all take but they are limited. I drive a diesel car and there's no way I can fork out an electric car even though the middle classes will have us believing their SO affordable now!

This forum should be renamed the "Stay off my Lawn" club.
People are going to have to get used to not driving diesels because they will be illegal, and I'm not talking about 20 years from now, more like ten top whack.
The transition period isn't just starting now.

They are talking about banning petrol and diesel cars by 2030/35, is that a global ban. How many more Power Stations will we have to build which produce enough green energy to supply all the energy needs of electric cars.

On another point I believe Electric cars require a DC charging point, no house hold in the UK has a DC Power supply who is going to pay for the installation of a Rectifier to convert AC to DC if it is possible in a domestic property.

I can’t see Oil and Gas companies sit back and see their massive profits being diminished by the introduction of electric cars either. We should be looking at making the current diesel and petrol engines more green not spending billions on battery powered cars which in general after a few hundred miles need charging.

Batteries are improving rapidly.

In less than ten years you'll have hybrid helicopters, twin-engined planes with one engine entirely electric, and there is already a solar powered plane that can fly in the stratosphere and operate as a pseudo-satellite. If you think that all sounds like bollocks do some searches for X3 helicopter, E fan X and Zephyr project. If aviation which has way more complicated engineering, stringent safety rules and long development times is heading in that direction so quickly you can be sure that automotive will have batteries with longer range than current fuel tanks by mid-decade.