That " Referee " " 12th man " " Dover supporter " should be banned from football grounds along with the other dickheads in there today.

I’m honestly starting to think the referee gave us nothing, even blatant decisions, because of the racism. He felt like we were dickheads who deserved nothing and so did his beet to ensure that was the case.

It’s the only way I can reconcile his sheer incompetence.

Rule change at start of season for players to not to insight the crowd. Ref missed that one.

Also he stopped play and gave ball back to Dover.

Unfortunately 2% of the crowd let us down as a club.
Still we don't know what Dover players said or did to the town end.
We've seen a lot of goals scored and celebrate Infront of Town End, in the past. What was different today....

Noble had a right set to with Hignett after being subbed.

Stinks of bad attitude. Marching up and down the touchline. Sit on the bench!

Shocking ref

https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/sport/f ... g-12321458 That is all.

I wouldn't give him even 1, Apart from one on the chin!

he,ll be assesed their and at the vic yesterday. doubt anything will happen as between em him and the assesor will come out will the the paragraphs from the match officials book of excuses and come out lilly white. we are the good guys, its thouse thuggish fans and players who are the problem.

There can be NO excuse for racist abuse any where no matter what the place or what has gone before. What about the feelings of our four black player or indeed Raj who rescued us when NOBODY else was interested,. IF it is found that the Dover player did insite the crowd he should be punished,but I can not see that he was at fault. Find the culprits and ban them for life,I felt guilty by association listening on my computer in Essex and would like to commend Mark Simson for his condemnation of these disgusting scenes unfolding in front of him.

Leaving aside the racist abuse etc as a thread has already been locked on the subject then I must say in 30 years of going iv never seen a more inept attempt at refeering in all my life. Also never seen an atmosphere like that at the Vic before, it was absolutely toxic with the vast amount being aimed at and caused by the man in the middle. Strangest feeling iv ever had leaving that game, still not fully sure what I witnessed to be honest.

What was Mark's view on the referee btw Essex?

I'll answer that one Mr Tree.
I listened to every bit of Mark's coverage and he didn't have a good word to say about the Ref. In fact he was extremely contemptuous of him.

Cheers, I imagine it was a very hard game to commentate on. Molyneaux say much?

I missed the part where it all kicked off as I was pouching an Indian but after about an hour he said that he was now completely lost for words regarding what he was witnessing from the referee, he was going off it about an incident were a Dover player blocked Killip taking a free kick or clearance and didn’t get booked as it is one of them things that is or should be an automatic yellow. The thing is it sounded like he got more bizarre as the game went on and started with booking a load of our players very early in proceedings for very little.

Yeah, if that game took place in Nigeria or Italy or somewhere you would be thinking that it was fixed, it was utterly mind blowing. If that foul on Toure in the box isn't one of the most blatant penalties ever then il show my arse in the club shop window.

Not really. I think he was a bit gobsmacked.

Did you hear the bit where Pools were about to take a throw and one of the Dover players went down. He stopped the throw being taken and then resumed the game with a dropped ball. I thought Mark was gonna swallow his false teeth!!!!!!!!

I never slept a wink last night I kept going through the game in my head thinking it was just a bad dream and got up still fuming about it. I hope I don't ever have to witness anything like that again. It could make you never Go to a match again.

Kenton Richardson also should have seen red for two yellows. Somehow missed those ones.

Exactly the same as me. Woke up around 1.00 then kept thinking about the ‘game’ as a whole. The racial issue obviously being top of the list but the screaming and feigning of injuries, the totally inept officials who cannot or do not want to clamp down on the shenanigans by players and as I mentioned on another post the fowl and bile being spewed from ‘fans’ behind me and my wife yesterday. I really do feel like giving up after all these years.
What used to be a great Saturday afternoon, not always being entertained, but an afternoon in the fresh air with the wife watching a game we have grown up with and love.

Just watched England play Tonga, what a different game from the players, officials and fans alike.

I was extremely close to leaving at half time yesterday. Felt physically sick at what had happened.

No doubt this referee had no control over the game yesterday and his decisions were baffling to say the least. What I find completely disgusting though is his supposed comment about Dover's scorer encouraging the reaction. (https://twitter.com/Locksta7/status/1175451586102996995)

Hopefully enough to get the useless fucker demoted or at least punished.

I’d like to think like those of us who really don’t feel like attending again, that he also feels like giving it up. Somehow imagine he is used to it and probably thrives off it.

How often do bad refs get demoted? Trevor Kettle is probably the worst referee I have ever seen take control of a Darlo match and that includes refs in the northern league upwards. Yet he is still strutting his stuff in the football league keeping his name in the papers.
Players should be booked for inciting opposition supporters after scoring a goal, perhaps if this was enforced then incidents like this wouldn't happen. Its only a week or so since your own players were celebrating in front of the rink end after Noble scored his penalty in the televised game, one of the black players cupping his ear to the opposition fans. You cant really complain if other teams do exactly what your own team do. However, no matter what the provocation there is no need for racism in any way, shape or form.

Good point Loan star. If you score a goal why celebrate in front of the away fans just get over to your own fans who will not " Hopefully " be giving you abuse.

Good point Loan star. If you score a goal why celebrate in front of the away fans just get over to your own fans who will not " Hopefully " be giving you abuse.

Was the 4th official asleep too ?

Was the 4th official asleep too ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEotHl5xFsY

7.30 in. How on earth dont we score? Unbelievable.

Just watched the highlights and three things stand out for me:

Shocking refereeing but ignoring the foul on Toure was beyond belief. He would have to go across Toure and make good being three or four yards behind the ball for it to even count as a genuine attempt at a tackle. He goes across him from behind instead and I can't fathom how any refereee, at any level could miss that.

When Featherstone gets a red two of the Dover players sympathise including one who was close enough to hear what he said to the ref.

Throughout the second half, after the announcement about racism, there is persistent booing of Effiong. It sounds like it is coming from the Block E end of the Mill House. Regardless of anything he might have done to earn those boos football-wise, anybody with an ounce of decency would have left it alone once that announcement had been made. Pretending that the problem is with one individual in the Town End doesn't stand up to scrutiny - is there still a Football Lads Alliance flag up at that end of the stand on a regular basis?

Hasn’t noble celebrated infront of away fans and dugouts a load of times ?


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That's a grim watch even with the crowd disturbances passed over.

Wasnt there but watching that a couple of things stand out. Dover looked like a pub team but Pools only had themselves to blame as some of the chances missed were a joke. The referee certainly looked like he deliberately ignored the penalty shouts and was clearly itching to send pools players off.

More unbelievable how we didn,t get two stonewall penalties. The second one on 5.00 he literally held the ball in both hands and the third!!! Trying to stay calm here.

This is what we have been saying about the ref the whole game was atrocious and was he that bad or very biased purely because the crowd let him know what we thought of his performance.

I think the one on Kabamba was a penalty as well the defender just pushes him over so the keeper can gather the ball.

The handball is bad (I reckon two Dover defenders handle the ball) the one Toure is barely believable how anyone can look at that and not see it’s a penalty even if he got the ball (he didn’t he was nowhere near the ball) it’s challenge from behind so a foul.

An example of how either the bloke was either cheating or he’d just completely gone in the head just before the Toure penalty disgrace, the Dover Centre forward controls the ball blatantly with his hand as in nearly catches the thing the referee goes to put his whistle to his mouth then signals advantage as the Dover player advances as if it was a Pools player who handled the ball!!!?! Watch it I had to three times as I could barely believe what I had seen. You can see sympathy for Featherstone even from the Dover players whatever he said seemed to be done in quite measured way. Even a Dover player has his hands on his head shaking it in disbelief.

That bloke cannot be allowed to referee again for the foreseeable future surely? That performance has got to be taken further.

Joe Johnson, Look at his LinkedIn page, he is actually a referee tutor, that incompetent twat teaches people to referee

At the end of the day grown adults should be able to handle a bloke celebrating a goal without losing control or certainly what we seen on Saturday but the celebrations were a bit ridiculous, it has to be said. He’d only scored a penalty at the end of the day not taken on the full team them smashed it in the top corner he’s shushed the Town End then started on the Cyril Knowles then went back to the Town End he certainly didn’t deserve what he was subjected to but the referee should have put a stop to it and got the game kicked back off, it’s his job to do that apparently the Ref tried to pin it on the Dover lad when it’s his duty. We’ve had players who have done it Liam Noble and Andy Monkhouse spring to mind but it is always a bit needless.

there is a saying summat like , if you cannot do owt then you teach it.

No but they dont need to hold their fingers to their lips and then run past them again cupping hand to their ear. Last time i checked its an offence.

I know Noble does it and I dont see any need in it from him either. If your getting grief before hand id say fair enough but I dont believe their striker got any before the goal so not sure what provoked it.

He got booed for acting like a twat and it was pretty much all areas of the ground, not just 1 section.

[quote="PJPoolie"] . He’d only scored a penalty at the end of the day not taken on the full team them smashed it in the top corner
actually if he,d have done that he might have got some applause from more pools fans than those who abused him.

Featherstone and Donaldson have got 2 match bans for dissent, but I'm afraid that's a side issue compared with who else might be missing tomorrow night. If any of Mafuta, Kabamba, Kioso or Toure don't play because of how they were affected by the events on Saturday the sense of shame will be overwhelming.

Yes, we need to come together massively tomorrow night but will it be enough after the incident and its aftermath on social media?

They will all play imo, was just the Echo doom mongering imo.

If They don,t play the morons have won, if it was me I,d be busting a gut to get out there and show them they are not having an effect my life.

This.

Especially with Kick it out on board and the cards or whatever that will be held up, its time to show not just our fans but the press and the world etc that the racists wont win. I suspect it will be a very supportive crowd tonight and a good atmosphere.

Would have thought the clubs preview was out by now mind, hope theres not a few unsure but I suspect Mark simply has plenty on his plate at the moment.

think we,ll be watched tonight especially the wider football world.

Someone threw a burger at Effiong, he says he had mayo all down his arm from it. Modeste saw this happen, and went fuming to the ref about it. This just added to the tension and it all blew up even further from there.

Was Modeste the one who looked like Cat out of Red Dwarf?

And the manager charged with two counts of misconduct! Wouldn't put it past them to dock us some points, ho hum.

Heard about this one earlier, £160 for the club who had fans racially abusing a goalkeeper, and £165 for the team who left the pitch because of it. Unbelievable.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... abuse-fans