Bury were promoted last season and had one of the top scorers in the league in Nicky Maynard now departed to Scotland, No players have been paid since March and they only have seven players registered for this season. These players are entitled to walk away free if they give two weeks notice due to the non payment of the wages and breach of contract by the club.

I guess they're dead and Bury'd?

Word has it sausage sandwich Dave Jones is involved with Bury, working alongside the chairman in an advisory position to 'help rebuild the football side of things'

Then they're doomed, doomed ah tell ye.

Surely not? Do clubs not look at an individual's previous job before employing them?

Wish Bury all the best, one of those clubs who've been at same level as Pools for long periods, but it doesn't sound good for them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48927152 Where have I heard this before?

Lol I love how the FA make sure crooks don't ruin clubs.

As an English football fan I demand a fit and proper FA test be introduced.

standing quiet with a glum expession on his face is just the help they really need. as if things are not bad enough for them. on a serious not i do wish bury all the luck they need if only for their fans. like pools a proper football club and not some bankrolled non entity like some are nowadays.

A month on and Bury still look like they're toast:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49330590

To be honest it's a surprise that the EFL have already tolerated so many postponed games. Talk about being in the last chance saloon - Bury have set up home there.

4 games already postponed, they better hope its a decent winter, or they will have some backlog, if they survive.

Eight million is a little ambitious, good luck to them though, think they are on borrowed time already.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/SaveBuryFC

If they get kicked out of league will an xtra team get promoted from league two and the vanarama.
8th position qualify for play offs!

Just a savings account that mate.

Only hashtags will save them now


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Terrible news, buyer pulls out 70 minutes before the deadline. They have had volunteers there all day sorting the ground out for Saturday.

If they survive now it will be courtesy of a stitch up that was never remotely on offer for Pools. Penny for Raj Singh's thoughts!

It's a truly horrible situation for their fans. Maybe the Manchester mafia can save them (the BBC, Andy Burnham, Phil Neville and the rest) but it doesn't look likely, especially with Bolton Wanderers back at death's door as well.

Gotta feel for Bury, sounds like the club is in a right state hence the buyer pulling out, thank God Raj was happy to sort the shit out that Coxhall and Pam left us in.

Awful. Cannot fathom how distraught those fans must be. Must have gigantic debts, what happens to Gigg Lane? Does it just become another Asda or Tesco?

We have a club right here that's existed before World War 1, Queen Victoria's death and the formation of a majority of nations on earth. Yet it's just going to die like those two FA Cups and decades of history never even mattered? We rant on all the time about how generations before us didn't bother preserving history, isn't Bury FC equally important history? Isn't it important to Bury itself? I can't say I'd ever wish to visit Bury, unless Pools ever went there and some Shakers probably feel the same about us. We got lucky with Raj, Higgy and Stelling.

Exactly what was going through my mind, Mr Dawes, especially when Bury's predicament was recently making the headline feature of the National news.

It is a truly awful situation for the club, fans, town etc. as we all know on here from our own experience.

Bury are one of our old traditional sparring partners and one of several clubs I have a soft spot for. Visiting Gigg Lane to see Pools many years ago, I arrived at the ground early as I like to take photos of away grounds. Wearing my camera around my neck, I approached the 'hut' selling programmes where the chap inside spotted the camera and asked me if I was from the press. I said, "No, I just take photos of the ground for myself". With that, he turned to the woman who was also serving and asked her if she would take over for a few minutes. He then asked me to follow him and to my amazement, gave me a guided tour around the ground, including the dressing rooms, before they opened the gates. A really nice touch from a genuine club. Just hope they receive some deserved good news.

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel more for Bury than for Bolton. It looks like they were well stitched up by their previous owner, and the current one is so far out of his depth that he's no idea what to do. The latest deal for Bury has collapsed at the Due Diligence stage - not surprising when you think that there were quite a lot of loans made to them that seem to have Gigg Lane as security....

Bolton however suffer in my eyes from their past history - in particular when the late Phil Gartside seemed to be doing anything possible to make sure that they could stay on the Premiership Gravy Train as long as possible, up to and including suggesting a two-tier Premier League with no relegation to the Football League. Yes it's a few years since it all went wrong for them, but that memory lingers.

It will be devastating for their fans if (as looks increasingly likely) both clubs go to the wall, and I'm sure there'll be lots of hand-wringing - however I doubt that there will be real reform, either in terms of redistributing the Premiership Wealth, or in terms of a "Fit and Proper Person" test worthy of the name....

MEN reckons that one of the three proposals on the table for Bury is a takeover by "former Gatehead owner Joseph Cala" - it's like that scene from Airplane when the vulture is there in the cabin with them....

The EFL is obviously as embarrassed as hell by the stink that is being made over the fate of Bury and Bolton and dreading having to pull the plug on either of them. But is there a realistic alternative?

Bolton are probably in a better position because they have at least been allowed to play games. It's hard to see how Bury's fixture backlog can be allowed to grow any longer, and even if genuine new bids are on the table, it will take prospective new owners time to do due diligence over the club's financial affairs. The last lot needed 72 hours to decide the club was a complete basket case. If the same thing happens again that takes Bury's state of suspended animation well into next week.

Time for Bury's fans to bite the bullet and prepare for a phoenix club surely?

There but for the grace of Raj go we...

A sad day for all the folk from Bury, and football in general. A lot of Premier League clubs and players are drowning in money, and nobody could help them out.

Much of what I wanted to say has already been covered admirably by the previous bunkerites. Alas I feel really sorry for Bury's fans and the town itself which has many parallels with Pools. Always in the shade of bigger clubs and clearly shafted by the football powers that be (and we have been here before with Pools i.e fit owners). I too sense more leniency given to BWFC but part of their problem must surely be the Allardyce days when they tried to keep up with the premier league Joneses for a while anyway. Portsmouth too were a similar case. Having your football club taken from you with all its community history is a form of bereavement and known only too true fans. My hope is that soon the premier league implodes and they come begging to be let back into the football league. Won't happen of course but if you don't dream then you are not really living in my view. Have to finish by too adding my bit that Pools would have been shown the door long before the Bury Bolton fiasco. They wanted rid years ago when the old boys pals act saved Pools from non-league during the re-election years. A whole different ball game now of course that they are non-league. RIP Bury FC.

Sad but expected news. Bury will be back.

Would of thought Sheik Mancity would have liked a reserve team for one of his relatives to play with. I suppose coming back fan owned might be a better option in the long term.

So only three teams being relegated out of League 1, wont that mean League 2 is 1 team short next season? Extra promotion spot for our League?

I mentioned that last week.
But the FL have confirmed only 1 team gets relegated from league 2.
Then probably none relegated if Bolton go tits up.

There but for the grace of God go Pools. We should all take a step back and just think how very close to the edgs we came, Yes we were relegated but we still have a club to support.
A big thank you must go to HUST also the lady who single handed organised the collection to raise the money to keep us going in those dark times.Of course Raj and Jeff Stelling played an important part and continue to but this was a community backed and the people in the background should never be forgotten.

Never say Die Pools
R.I.P Bury FC

That Just Giving page started by a Sheffield Wednesday fan got stuck on £4,104...

Forever Bury, affiliated to Supporters Direct, has its own Just Giving Page with £6,195 raised so far against a target of £500,000.

Got to say, per Mr. Essex Poolie's comment, that makes the grass roots efforts by Pools fans when we were in the clarts look even more brilliant in retrospect.

You'd expect the Forever Bury page to get a lot of sympathy donations now, but I can't help feeling that for the last couple of weeks everyone in Bury has been sitting back waiting for a white knight to ride into town. I can't remember reading anything at all about preparations to start a phoenix club and their daft MP is still demanding that the EFL reverse its decision.

'Daft' because it's not going to happen.

Surprised the Nevilles didn't help

They can’t really as they own Salford


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[quote="pooliecrab"]Sad but expected news. Bury will be back.

but back where is still a long going question. they could still be purchased by someone as an ongoing club. if that happens will they be treat as a relegated club playing pools next season. without any owner then i imagine they,ll have to be reformed and do a darlo, but where they eventually play home games and the level of support they may get will determine at what level they do start at.

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They can’t really as they own Salford


even if they didn,t why should anyone tell someone else what to do with their money. if i won the euro millions i would invest in pools only if i wasn,t told by others that i should.

There's a lot of national sympathy for Bury, Radio 5 live at the ground this morning interviewing anybody they could find, nothing to do with them being based along the road in Salford Quays, I'm sure they would of had as much coverage from Pools had we been thrown out of the League.

They don't seem to actually be discussing how they got themselves into this mess in the first place, just how much of a disaster it is and how sad. It's not the end of the world, start again, build back up, it's been done before and it can and will be done again.

Are they £7m in debt? or £2.7m in debt? Either way it's too big an amount for normal business men and fans to come up with. They were on -12 points, with few players and a backlog of fixtures to schedule, too much of a mess to sort out it appears.

There was always going to be one club that couldn't find a Raj Singh, it's Bury. It's not right, but it's not surprising.

Part of the problem will be the ownership of the ground - I think from what I've read that there are a number of charges against it, that will effectively mean it becomes owned by the lenders. If there are covenants in place that gives a certain amount of protection - but if the lenders demand say a couple of million to buy back the ground, they're in seriously deep water and could end up having to play elsewhere. As our frenemies down the A66 know, that's a pretty big ask for starters. It's entirely possible too that they'd end up in the North-West Counties - five promotions away from League 2, and playing the likes of Whitchurch Alport (my local team now!) who think 200 is a good crowd.

Lots of people commenting on the Beeb about what's it to do with the EFL - how many more clubs have to end up in the claggy before they see that part of the problem is that it's still far too easy for chancers and egotists to get their claws on a club, and for clubs to live far beyond their means - I know Hodcroft used to bang on about this a lot, well he was right - more financial control and rules from the EFL (ironically similar to what the NL is doing) would make it a lot harder. Instead the EFL seem to have been relying over the last 20 years on clubs going out of the league before they implode....

Probably one less relegation spot in league 2.

Like many said above. The efforts of Singh and Stelling alongside our fans are now showing there magnitude. In comparison to Hartlepool Bury has produced several famous people such as Kieran Trippier and Helen Flanagan, none of them even referenced Bury's demise. Of course when you look at how many clubs have had this fate in recent years something has to be done.

I honestly cannot see Bury ever reaching the EFL again unless it's phoenix incarnation gets huge backing. Too many clubs in Manchester.

It's a pretty densely-populated area - Greater Manchester is probably only second to London in terms of population - so it should be able to support a number of pro clubs. But with two giants there it's getting hard for the smaller clubs. You can get the Metrolink from Bury to either of the big clubs.... Ultimately they've been run very badly over the last few years, but they can still probably sustain a club IF they can all get behind it and, crucially, can continue playing at Gigg Lane. They'd be lucky to get beyond NL Level though, and if they can't use the ground I can imagine them getting stuck in the NPL for a long time.

There were mutterings a good few years ago about the idea of forming "Manchester North End" with Rochdale, Bury and Oldham merging - it came to nothing in part because actually the fans wouldn't wear it. They are all distinct towns of themselves, historic rivals - Imagine someone suggested merging Pools, Darlo and Gateshead. Bury fans won't be going to see Rochdale or Oldham - they'll either become armchair fans of the Premier clubs, or do something else on a Saturday.

Then it's a pity that Hodcroft handed Pools over debt free to a pair of absolute chancers, isn't it? Hearing some of the stunts pulled by the owners at Bury - siphoning off assets and borrowing money from private lenders at exorbitant interest rates for the sake of 'convenience' is familiar stuff for Pools fans.

Hodcroft called it right with The Monkey Hangers (TNH) but 6 months later apparently couldn't wait any longer to get shot of IOR's responsibility for Pools. JPNG was an anagram for 'shitehawks' just like TNH.

I don't say he got it right on all of it.... the takeover situation was something of his hand being forced in that there was no more money coming in from Norway and IOR weren't able to sustain us without it. So we were being run on a shoestring for the last few years and he was looking to offload - ironically we were probably more sustainable as a club at that point than at any other time in our history, however we weren't at a level that we could seriously compete. I get the impression that by the time JPNG came along IOR just wanted out, and of course Coxberg passed the Fit and Proper Persons test... He's not without blame, but he didn't exactly have a queue of potential owners beating down the door. What state would we be in now if he hadn't sold? I'm guessing we'd still have gone down eventually, with Uncle Ken cutting the playing budget more and more - a gentle decline rather than a plummet maybe. While there were doubts about Coxberg from the beginning (hat tip The Detectives) to be fair it was several months later that we started to get proper hints that all was not well in the state of Denmark, and longer for that to develop into a full-blown crisis....

It shouldn’t be that hard for powers that be to stop people like this getting hold of clubs.

If you don’t have evidence that you have a lot of money or you don’t own a reputable business that makes money then you aren’t allowed to takeover a football club.

See that was easy.

It would have saved us from nearly going pop. The fit and proper persons test clearly isn’t fit for purpose, the sad demise of Bury has to be a line in the sand.

According to 5 live, the chancer who bought Bolton FC for £1, then paid himself £500,000 in consultancy fees!

Be ironic if there is a Phoenix club in Bolton!

It really should be more difficult to obtain a club, watching them people outside Bury ground broken hearted is painful to see.
Proof of capital and a business plan is what is required and some form of deposit.

It took us half an hour of digging to see Coxhall was based out of a flat above a hairdressers in London and still lived at his mothers. The football league should be doing this as an absolute minimum. Maybe have set criteria for wealth, cashflow etc.

Alternatively appoint an accountant to have a look into them to make the choice for them. That would require effort though and actually earning their salaries.

Bury will rise again.
Only this time it will BELONG to and run by the people who really CARE.

Or the new international consortium who claim to have a cool £7m in cash ready to buy the club.

Will they play in Pakistan cricket shirts?

In all seriousness, I don't think Bolton will go under. Much more business potential and interest than Bury.

Bolton live to play on, we should all send emails to them useless chunts at the efl showing our disgust.
In fact I just did boils my piss how they blame the demise on poor management when they did the checks on the asset stripping fuckers