Been watching the documentary on Netflix all weekend.

I just can’t work out what’s happened.

All the scenarios have flaws.

If they did kill her, even by accident, I don’t know how any sane person could go eat dinner having just done that, go through a staged fake “oh my god she’s gone missing” act at dinner with friends and then sit on it for 12 years, the guilt would kill me inside.

Great watch though.


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If they did kill her - they did a cracking job of hiding the body like. Not sure where I stand on what happened, whether they are totally innocent or covering something up. Something doesnt sit right with me and I wouldnt trust either of them tbh.

I was going to watch it but watched Triple Frontier instead. Quite shit tbh but keeps you entertained.

I was off Friday so watched that. Canny film.

If they managed to kill her and hide her without being spotted and not leaving a single trace then it’s one hell of a clean up job.




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I probably put it with the likes of Con Air, Die Hard and Alien vs Predator. Not brilliant films but the kind of film il always end up watching whenever i see it on tv.

Going to watch it to see if I change my mind but I have never thought they killed and concealed the death of her. I think she was just taken.

I think the what’s not quite right about the McCanns is what they did was totally wrong. Who on holiday or anywhere leaves kids of that age home alone? When you are on holiday the kids are up or asleep in pushchairs until all hours, it’s part of it. So I reckon the unease that pervades from them is from the guilt at the garbage job they did at being her parents. If they were more working class this would have been made more of by the media.

I don’t understand how money keeps being pumped into this case. Lots of kids actually go missing, but this case for some reason goes on.

Middle class family and the blonde hair/blue eyes I reckon. If we switched that family who pretended their kid had gone missing but actually locked her under the bed (Matthews was it?) in their place then fuck all would be being spent on the case.

I feel like I haven't read enough about this case so I'm delighted Netflix have helped it back into the spotlight.

I don’t understand how the could have left the kids and went for a meaL If my kids cant go somewhere on holiday or are in bed you dont go its simple. Eat early and drink wine after they go to sleep on your balcony. If my kids are out of my sight for five mins ob holiday the panic sets in. How did they thinj it was acceptable.

Nicky Campbell made the point on 5 Live this morning that the twins - who were also left in the bedroom when the McCanns went to dinner - are teenagers now. Must be great for them waking up to a ton of social media chatter about whether or not their parents are child murderers. That's a tough enough question for anyone to have to grow up with, but why poke the wasps' nest again just now?

Because new evidence has been found? Apparently not. Funny how people who wouldn't touch the Daily Express with a barge pole and are presumably oblivious to its endless rehashing of the McCann case are lapping this up.

That part I will never understand. The whole parental group (8 of them) left their kids every night


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Millionaires keep funding it

Their friends also got 300k in damages from suing newspapers and donated it the fund.


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The thing thats been lost here is them. they have to live with fact they fucked up and they have lost their daughter because of a night out. As a parent thats the worst life sentance.

If my daughter went missing why wouldnt you answer these questions

1. On May 3, 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?2. Did you search inside the master bedroom wardrobe?3. (Shown two photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?4. Why was the curtain by the sofa near the side window tampered with? Did someone go behind the sofa?5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected Madeleine’s disappearance?6. Why did you say Madeleine had been abducted?7. Assuming Madeleine was abducted, why did you leave the twins to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? The supposed abductorcould still be in the apartment.8. Why didn’t you ask the twins then what happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?9. When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say – what were your exact words?10. What happened after you raised the alarm there?11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?12. Who contacted the authorities?13. Who took place in the searches?14. Did anyone outside the group learn of her disappearance in those following minutes?15. Did any neighbour offer you help?16. What does “we let her down” mean?17. Did Jane Tanner tell you that night she’d seen a man with a child?18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?19. During the searches, with the police there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?22. Did you call Sky News?23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?24. Did you ask for a priest?25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?27 What was your behaviour that night?28. Did you manage to sleep?29. Before travelling to Portugal, did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?32. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?33. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?35. What is your medical speciality?36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?37. Did you work every day?38. At a certain point you stopped working. Why?39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?40. Is it true sometimes you despaired at your children’s behaviour and it left you feeling very uneasy?41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?43. In the case files, you were shown canine forensic testing films. After watching them, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?47. When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, carried out in a British lab, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

Being in the forensic field in past i discount a lot of the latter questions as they are no longer involved in enquiry. its the first few that are odd asi would be telling them everything

Your references to the childs behaviour is surely a good reason not to leave her unsupervised.

Has anyone as a parent been over 100m away from their kids when sleeping to go for a beer under your supervision?

think the whole thing should be put to bed once and for all. left a little kid alone and thats the only fact we know. been a couple from the north east on benefits it would have been relagated to page 11 in the national press after a few days and the parents would face prosecution.

The observations about the blonde hair, blue eyes and middle class parents are spot on.

Kids in care go missing and vanish all the time and they get fuck all mention.

My mate's daughter swims for a club and has to travel round the midlands for races, and he often sees the McCanns as one or both of their twins do the same.

He said its dead awkward, people kind of kind them a wide berth. Can't imagine having to grow up with that sort of shite to deal with.

I don’t think authorities should ever stop looking for a missing child.

No matter what the circumstances.

The Mccann’s had links in the media and contacts, so this case probably did get more coverage Cos that, but at the time I don’t think a case like this where a kid goes missing abroad has ever really happened before in the UK in the modern day.

I can’t work out the leaving the kids alone bit but I don’t think that should stop police looking for her. It’s almost like your punishing a 3 year old for her parents being dickheads


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totally agree with your first line but i doubt your second line is totally correct. might run away and be found a bit later but not permanently. would be interested in information about kids in care going missing for years on end. i see and agree with the point you are trying to make though as police resources can be used when it suits em.

According to the charity Missing People, more than 140,000 children go missing each year in the UK.

https://www.netmums.com/child/the-uk-mi ... ll-ongoing

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totally agree with your first line but i doubt your second line is totally correct. might run away and be found a bit later but not permanently. would be interested in information about kids in care going missing for years on end. i see and agree with the point you are trying to make though as police resources can be used when it suits em.[/quote]

It is true sadly. I know this through professional experience. Generally they only resurface when there is police involvement.

Yup, but she was 19 at the time.

It's one of those cases where you get a lot of people who think they know-it-all. They did it. They didnt. I wish more people would say, you know what I don't know.

I can honestly say I ain’t got a clue. I don’t think they did it based on facts.

But who knows.


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I haven't got a clue either. Unless somebody who really knows what happened comes forward and tells, then the speculation will continue. Even then the sceptics would run riot.

I aint got a clue.

Best case scenario some family paid for a new kid and shes being raised by them

Worst case scenario the moment that pic got released of her eye she was done for


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I watched Creep on Netflix last night. Its not the one about the German Underground where the bloke murders everyone though, just a film with same title but thought it was really good.

Couldnt turn it off.

I expected Bluestreak on here asking why no mention of chips

I can honestly say, a lot of people agree with you.

Has hatman been going to many games this year?

How is the weather in China?

The strangest thing happened to me last night...I put my dinner in the oven as normal, and I must have left it for about 20 minutes before going back to check on it. To my surprise, when I opened the oven door, the whole thing had gone. Tray, food, everything - not a trace.

That's the last time I buy McCann's Oven Chips...

Yeah you have already done that ‘joke’ a couple of posts up repeating it in a longer version doesn’t make it funny.

Halfway through the series and I think the Portuguese police are coming across as absolute cowboys and whole thing is a platform for them to make themselves look less incompetent. How did the McCanns conceal her body then move it into a hire car they only rented 25 days after she went missing when couldn’t even go outside without dozens of media and photographers swarming all over them? It’s totally absurd. Why would a large group of friends assist in concealing three death of a three year old girl on holiday? Again pretty ludicrous when you think about it.

You realise towards the end of the series most of the things people read about the case in the media is made up or was made up because of the Portuguese police incompetence.

They didn’t fancy looking for her after a few weeks, so decided to just blame the family or a random mush who lived close by.

I think they’d have even struggled killing her a few hours before they went to dinner, I don’t know how you’d kill a kid then go hide a body without a single person noticing these worried as fuck middle class parents struggling. I don’t think they are trained killers, they’d do a terrible job of hiding a child at about 6pm on a packed holiday resort that they weren’t really familiar with.




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[quote="PJPoolie" How did the McCanns conceal her body then move it into a hire car they only rented 25 days after she went missing when couldn’t even go outside without dozens of media and photographers swarming all over them? It’s totally absurd. Why would a large group of friends assist in concealing three death of a three year old girl on holiday? Again pretty ludicrous when you think about it.[/quote]
obviously you never watch murder she wrote on the box.

I'm half way through this series and I don't think they did it. How could they have done such a good job? It's not like the really knew what they were doing. And, why court so much media attention, it's a bit twisted to try and get people to find the child you've killed. If they did it, they'd report it, look worried, then let the interest settle down and get on with their lives having gotten away with literally murder.

Perhaps they did sedate the kids, and if people found out they'd get in trouble with their employers, perhaps thats the bit they are covering up so much, and the shit parents who leave their kids whilst they get pissed bit. The dogs bit was worrying, but then who's to say another murder didn't happen in that apartment.

Psychopaths are more than capable of carrying as normal after murdering someone; one of their characteristics is "impaired empathy and remorse." Plenty of examples, including one that was in the news just yesterday - that 16 year old up in Scotland who abducted and murdered a 5 year old lass.

Lots of theory's of wot happened but no concrete evidence yet.
Parents don't show much emotion if any.
After Maddie had been missing for a week Kate says she WAS a lovely child. Eh.

There's a. 10 mins video on YouTube about what the hartlepool public think happened. Some dodgy characters on it a bit like benefits Street.

This is a sickening rehash of an awful case. The McCanns will be their own worst critics and they have a life sentence of soul destroying regret. The publicity is not about class, it's been a story of contacts and finding and the parents having the intelligence to use the media as a tool to get their daughter back.

Of course they didn't kill her. It's a ridiculous and sick suggestion and the suggestion adds to the pain of knowing that your three year old has probably been murdered after suffering god knows what sexual abuse and you weren't there to protect her.

We thought the same and stopped watching it, it certainly wasn’t a ‘great watch’ like you say just rehash to make a TV series.

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As in most of these cases the feeling of not being able to do anything but must be heartbreaking, but I’m still trying to understand why this particular case gets such attention and resources. What is different about it?

I think it just caught the imagination of the public Snowy and the parents understandably have done everything in their power to keep it in the spotlight. It happens with some cases; why does Ruth Ellis persist over countless other female hangings? Why does the Krays legend live on even though they have been far more brutal gangsters.

Horrific week for abductions . That beast arrested in Cheshire today will no doubt make the history books, something like 12 attacks in a couple weeks .Sick bastad.