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https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive ... rs-in-race

Yet as far as I know he never played a game for us ? I wonder why ?

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Because he's not as good as Myles Anderson?


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I presume they are buying him for the future so at a guess he ain't ready for first team football yet or good enough at this stage?

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https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-fulham-agree-defender-deal-but-man-utd-spurs-in-race

Yet as far as I know he never played a game for us ? I wonder why ?


Probably because he has just turned 17 in September.


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Can I be the first to say I always knew he was a brilliant prospect and worth far more than Pools received for him, even though I never saw him play?


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horden wrote:
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-fulham-agree-defender-deal-but-man-utd-spurs-in-race

Yet as far as I know he never played a game for us ? I wonder why ?


Probably because he has just turned 17 in September.


So ! whats that got to do with it? Why is it Pools seem to be the only club to wrap anyone under 18 up in cotton wool?. If he is that good, he should of been playing. As with Conor Simpson, it appears the club are grooming youngsters with the sole intention of selling them on, as opposed to playing for the first team and helping them get results and then selling them on.

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Can I be the first to say I always knew he was a brilliant prospect and worth far more than Pools received for him, even though I never saw him play?


You are not a proper fan then, cos I saw him play numerous time for the youths, and yes like you, although I saw him play, I thought he was a good rather than brilliant prospect. On the basis of what I saw I think he should of been given a chance to play in the first team , like 16 or 17 year olds are at other clubs and did at Pools once upon a time.

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You really need that explaining?

He was 16 at the start of the season, how many 16 year old centre backs are ready to play national league football physically? He might be great on the ball, read the game well, be quick but if he hasn’t filled out he’s not going to be ready for professional football, every kid is different and grows at different rates but centre back is the one position on the field were that is most important. It’s basic common sense.


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If he was good enough he should of been given a run out for the first team, he may not of been up to it physically, but all I am saying , is he wasn't given that chance, so we will now never know. I look forward to see him playing for Fulham when he fills out though, probably around 2022, that's if he ever does fill out , most of our players tend not to.

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If he's as good as what he's made out to be then playing for a shite non league team shudent of been a problem.


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But if he’s not ready to play first team football how can you give him a run out? It has nothing to do with ability, bigger clubs and are seeing potential not a current first team player.


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Always makes me laugh when people come out with this "if a Premiership side want him then he must be good enough for the National League" bla bla bla. Was the same with Blackford or whoever it was who had a trial at Rangers?

They are buying him/looking at him based on potential and what he might well become in x number of years, it doesnt mean he is currently good enough ffs.

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It makes perfect sense to me. If you take an all time great like Pele he was scoring in World Cups at 17 having made his debut for Santos when he was 15. He obviously could have played for Pools in the football league when he was five. Now we're in non-league a toddler Pele would get a game even if his balance might still be suspect at times.


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 Post subject: Re: Luca Murphy
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It makes perfect sense to me. If you take an all time great like Pele he was scoring in World Cups at 17 having made his debut for Santos when he was 15. He obviously could have played for Pools in the football league when he was five. Now we're in non-league a toddler Pele would get a game even if his balance might still be suspect at times.


We’d have had him in if he was at the Boro. Jobs for the infants.


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They are buying him/looking at him based on potential and what he might well become in x number of years, it doesnt mean he is currently good enough ffs.[/quote]
it,ll cost them very little anyway to sign him and pay him with the money they have. if he cby someone who,s been around for years chucking their weight about with a bit of success.omes off that will be a bonus and the worst would be loaning him out and pocketing money from the club they loan him out to. under 19 football is far different to non league where you could be a world beater at the former but given a torrid time in the second


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But if he’s not ready to play first team football how can you give him a run out? It has nothing to do with ability, bigger clubs and are seeing potential not a current first team player.


And how the fook do you know that?

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Not going until we play yubeps son


You won't be the only one. We may of got back in the league or won a title of some sorts by the time Yubeps sons son plays for Pools :laugh:

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horden wrote:
PJPoolie wrote:
But if he’s not ready to play first team football how can you give him a run out? It has nothing to do with ability, bigger clubs and are seeing potential not a current first team player.


And how the fook do you know that?



Ok I admit I’m wrong Fulham are scouting a kid who’s just turned 17 because Claudio Ranieri thinks he can keep them in the Premier League yet he hasn’t even appeared on Pools bench yet.

Sort it out Hignett.


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Sell on clause of 2million quid if Fulham stay up.
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Not going until we play yubeps son


More trophies than pools that lad


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Fulham have seen something that they think they can hone into a decent player..........perhaps. They want to have a try at doing that.
It's a chance for the lad. Nothing may come of it but they are acting now at very little immediate cost. The rewards for us and the cost for them will come later, if he makes it but then it will be worth it.
Maybe they have seen what happens to our promising youngsters and don't want to risk Luca becoming another Pools stat.
Other clubs, bigger than Fulham are also watching him, so that's another reason for Fulham to strike first, if they can.
I would say that Fulham couldn't care less how many first team games he has played and if they want to see how he can play in the physical National league there's plenty of that type on their own doorstep.
As for us not playing him.
Pools have been aware of the interest in him and are probably molly coddling him and why not. He's a sell on asset which could be priceless in the future. Why risk spoiling the potential of a vital payday, which is the main reason we have a youth section in the first place.
Why can't people rejoice in the fact that we are in this situation, instead of continuously whingy, whingy, whingy. FFS.

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Not going again if he signs for Man Utd.

https://www.hammers.news/transfer-news/ ... hy-report/

We need a (Hartlepool) People's Vote to decide who he should be allowed to join.


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Raj Singh only took over at Pools because he knew Luka was going to be worth millions. FACT.


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Raj told me that before Luca was born......bigger fact.

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His best mate with the same christian name has much more energy and look forward to Fulham putting in a bid for Luca Zade!

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Fulham have seen something that they think they can hone into a decent player........perhaps. They want to have a try at doing that.
It's a chance for the lad. Nothing may come of it but they are acting now at very little immediate cost. The rewards for us and the cost for them will come later, if he makes it but then it will be worth it.
Maybe they have seen what happens to our promising youngsters and don't want to risk Luca becoming another Pools stat.
Other clubs, bigger than Fulham are also watching him, so that's another reason for Fulham to strike first, if they can.
I would say that Fulham couldn't care less how many first team games he has played and if they want to see how he can play in the physical National league there's plenty of that type on their own doorstep.
As for us not playing him.
Pools have been aware of the interest in him and are probably molly coddling him and why not. He's a sell on asset which could be priceless in the future. Why risk spoiling the potential of a vital payday, which is the main reason we have a youth section in the first place.
Why can't people rejoice in the fact that we are in this situation, instead of continuously whingy, whingy, whingy. FFS.


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derwent wrote:
Fulham have seen something that they think they can hone into a decent player.......perhaps. They want to have a try at doing that.
It's a chance for the lad. Nothing may come of it but they are acting now at very little immediate cost. The rewards for us and the cost for them will come later, if he makes it but then it will be worth it.
Maybe they have seen what happens to our promising youngsters and don't want to risk Luca becoming another Pools stat.
Other clubs, bigger than Fulham are also watching him, so that's another reason for Fulham to strike first, if they can.
I would say that Fulham couldn't care less how many first team games he has played and if they want to see how he can play in the physical National league there's plenty of that type on their own doorstep.
As for us not playing him.
Pools have been aware of the interest in him and are probably molly coddling him and why not. He's a sell on asset which could be priceless in the future. Why risk spoiling the potential of a vital payday, which is the main reason we have a youth section in the first place.
Why can't people rejoice in the fact that we are in this situation, instead of continuously whingy, whingy, whingy. FFS.


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I know, its not as though there is anything to whinge about , is it?. sctatchinghead

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Fulham have seen something that they think they can hone into a decent player........perhaps. They want to have a try at doing that.
It's a chance for the lad. Nothing may come of it but they are acting now at very little immediate cost. The rewards for us and the cost for them will come later, if he makes it but then it will be worth it.
Maybe they have seen what happens to our promising youngsters and don't want to risk Luca becoming another Pools stat.
Other clubs, bigger than Fulham are also watching him, so that's another reason for Fulham to strike first, if they can.
I would say that Fulham couldn't care less how many first team games he has played and if they want to see how he can play in the physical National league there's plenty of that type on their own doorstep.
As for us not playing him.
Pools have been aware of the interest in him and are probably molly coddling him and why not. He's a sell on asset which could be priceless in the future. Why risk spoiling the potential of a vital payday, which is the main reason we have a youth section in the first place.
Why can't people rejoice in the fact that we are in this situation, instead of continuously whingy, whingy, whingy. FFS.


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derwent wrote:
Fulham have seen something that they think they can hone into a decent player.......perhaps. They want to have a try at doing that.
It's a chance for the lad. Nothing may come of it but they are acting now at very little immediate cost. The rewards for us and the cost for them will come later, if he makes it but then it will be worth it.
Maybe they have seen what happens to our promising youngsters and don't want to risk Luca becoming another Pools stat.
Other clubs, bigger than Fulham are also watching him, so that's another reason for Fulham to strike first, if they can.
I would say that Fulham couldn't care less how many first team games he has played and if they want to see how he can play in the physical National league there's plenty of that type on their own doorstep.
As for us not playing him.
Pools have been aware of the interest in him and are probably molly coddling him and why not. He's a sell on asset which could be priceless in the future. Why risk spoiling the potential of a vital payday, which is the main reason we have a youth section in the first place.
Why can't people rejoice in the fact that we are in this situation, instead of continuously whingy, whingy, whingy. FFS.


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Shit loads, yet you are still looking for something that isn’t there to moan about :laugh:


I wasn't moaning, I was asking a question and opening it up for debate. I see your obsession with me continues. You just can't help yourself can you?. stpid

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It’s got to the ludicrous stage now where in some people’s eyes, everything and I mean everything the club does is wrong. End of.
The same people also think everything the club has done in the past is wrong also.
The same people want the club to remodelled in their image.
The same people have so much knowledge of the game it’s frightening.
The same people must be on Biffo gas.

Please, if it really is that bad just call it a day, because it is obviously no good for you or us.

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It’s got to the ludicrous stage now where in some people’s eyes, everything and I mean everything the club does is wrong. End of.
The same people also think everything the club has done in the past is wrong also.
The same people want the club to remodelled in their image.
The same people have so much knowledge of the game it’s frightening.
The same people must be on Biffo gas.

Please, if it really is that bad just call it a day, because it is obviously no good for you or us.


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I think Pools are being a bit conservative if the only rumours are that Spurs, West Ham and Man United are set to rival Fulham. One of the many media teams should get on Twitter now to confirm that Juventus, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich have all been seen circling the Vic as they prepare massive bids for Luca.


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Shit loads, yet you are still looking for something that isn’t there to moan about :laugh:


I wasn't moaning, I was asking a question and opening it up for debate. I see your obsession with me continues. You just can't help yourself can you?. stpid



Why don’t you react to anyone else like this? Everybody else apart from you is saying the same in this thread yet you take exception to my post again, but I have the problem :laugh:

Shall I start resorting to childish insults like you do?

You were moaning about us not playing young kids, look at your posts man!! If you don’t want people to react stop posting daft stuff like this.


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Shit loads, yet you are still looking for something that isn’t there to moan about :laugh:


I wasn't moaning, I was asking a question and opening it up for debate. I see your obsession with me continues. You just can't help yourself can you?. stpid



Why don’t you react to anyone else like this? Everybody else apart from you is saying the same in this thread yet you take exception to my post again, but I have the problem :laugh:

Shall I start resorting to childish insults like you do?

You were moaning about us not playing young kids, look at your posts man!! If you don’t want people to react stop posting daft stuff like this.



I was only moaning in your opinion, obviously that is what you wanted to think, as you are constantly looking to put me down, and we know why that is dont we?.

Young kids? He is 17 not 5. Are you telling me there are no other clubs in the top 5 divisions not playing 16 or 17 year olds? We often did it during that golden period when we won nowt.

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I was only moaning in your opinion, obviously that is what you wanted to think, as you are constantly looking to put me down, and we know why that is dont we?.

Young kids? He is 17 not 5. Are you telling me there are no other clubs in the top 5 divisions not playing 16 or 17 year olds? We often did it during that golden period when we won nowt.


I have never tried to put you down personally, I don’t know you why would I it’s only daft opinions about football. Get over yourself, you have got personal about where I live and resorted to insults on several occasions. If you think I have a problem you are mistaken.

Very few, 16 and 17 year olds play at this level especially centre half’s which is the position you most need physicality, the kid in question would have to be a bit of a rarity like Rooney was like a man in a kids body. I remember a young lad playing for Portsmouth a few years ago, Whatmore? But it’s rare. Maybe a few more forwards get thrown in at young a age. Simpson did again because he was a big lad, the one before was probably Luke James.


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I think Pools are being a bit conservative if the only rumours are that Spurs, West Ham and Man United are set to rival Fulham. One of the many media teams should get on Twitter now to confirm that Juventus, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich have all been seen circling the Vic as they prepare massive bids for Luca.


Now now Mr T, Juventus said they would only turn to Luca if their bid for Pogba failed.
They also said we donna havva da Money. I said I could confirm that cos we've got him !!!!

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How old was Jack Baldwin when he came to Pools and more or less straight into the First team!!


He signed when he was 18 but didn't feature for the first team till December. He played in Micky Barrons first game as caretaker after Wadsworth was sacked. According to Wikipedia he only played 17 games that season. A few of those will of been as a sub and a few times I'm sure I remember him being played in centre midfield or at right back.


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The hype continues:

https://tbrfootball.com/tottenham-must- ... ca-murphy/

Yet again quoting the same article on the TeamTalk site. It does make me wonder if the whole thing isn't being blown up out of all proportion; have none of these clubs even asked to take Luka on trial for a couple of weeks?


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The hype continues:

https://tbrfootball.com/tottenham-must- ... ca-murphy/

Yet again quoting the same article on the TeamTalk site. It does make me wonder if the whole thing isn't being blown up out of all proportion; have none of these clubs even asked to take Luka on trial for a couple of weeks?


There are quiet a few of that type of website emerging at the moment. Do nothing but trawl twitter or the more tradition and news sites and then essentially just comment on others news, no attempt do any journalism, just comment. I actually think they are dragging NewsNow down and they should stop including their 'articles' in the NewsNow results pages. Yes they look professional, but the content is pure gash.

"The young Englishman could be the future for Tottenham’s defence and they must act quickly to avoid missing out."

What a load of shite.

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