That’s all I have to say.

It was indeed, arguably one of worst home performances I have ever witnessed. At least it never rained.

No fight, no spirit, no teamwork, no discernible tactics, no creativity, no desire......... no hope.

Team selection was poor, How the hell Kioso doesn`t get a game ahead of Richardson is beyond me, what a difference he made when he came on, Magnay didn`t cover himself in glory and Trigger wasn`t great either.
The new left back cannot defend but can attack, who the hell watched him before signing him on loan
Kitching is bench material a best, Muir looked as interested as a hooker who had just completed a night shift and we started hoofing it again
Nobody batted an eyelid on our bench when we scored, not a jot of anything, just a row of dead men walking!(well sitting but you get me drift)

We scored a consolation goal, in injury time, against a part time who outclassed us, what did you want them to do?. I suspect whatever way they reacted some fucker would have banged their fucking jaw about it

We are in dire straights, the reaction to the goal is irrelevant at this juncture

Pleased Anderson got it, that lad needs an injection of confidence.

Completely agree. I didn’t go so can’t comment on how shit it was, but a lack of celebration at an injury time goal is surely the least of the problems.


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When you say dire straits, do you mean money for nothing and the chicks for free?

Yes I would have expected an appreciation or something, head down and arse up is gonna get you nowhere.

So what would you do monkeybutt.as you have had a pop at most of our players. I think that is the problem the fans are putting too much pressure on the players.what do you expect come on then what would you do different as you seem to know a lot about the game like most of the fan's on here ?

It wouldn`t have mattered what formation or who played today, we were not up for it.

Cunningham was cup tied today or he would be in the starting line up.

Were you happy with the performance? What would you do?

Fair enough don't know what I would do to be fair.On such a disappointing performance. I know one thing a lot of fan's have mentioned defence and midfield but as for our front line. Was shocking I wouldn't pay Muir in washers he useless lost every header is that the best we've got.how bad is he ?

I've an idea!

Mr Hackman you say we put too much pressure on the players - I think that is ball cocks but........

THE DoF says we know nothing and so can make no fair contribution....(he must be right as I tend to agree with much that is written by Messrs Butt and Horden)

Mr Money had a go at the fans - in fairness he seems to have refocused on the more appropriate targets......but, how about this?

We all stop going! Let them play tippy tappy without critical eyes and unfair voices. No pressure. Problem solved.

Smiley faces all round! Sales of the Fail will increase as we all rush to buy it to find out what happened and all will be well until the next season ticket sales campaign.

Job done - I'm not going to Harrogate next week (but still won't buy the Fail).

The director of football hasn’t said we know nothing he was talking about loudmouths at the Vic who sit near the dugouts spend 90 minutes being critical of and or abusing the manager. Money hasn’t had a go at the fans, he spoke honestly about the atmosphere around the club.

I’m not sure why people are constantly looking to twist or take out of context what people are actually saying at the minute it’s mad.

Disagree about Hignett, on the podcast he had perfect opportunity to clarify the postage stamp jibe made earlier, but rather than clarify and maybe offer a thinly veiled apology of sorts, he went on to reinforce what he had said earlier about fans and postage stamps. He comes across as an arrogant prick to me.

You disagree with what he was specifically talking about being stood in the dugout and said in the latest podcast that if you were offended by his comments then you are meant, ie. if you are one of the people who does this.

Do think abusing the manager/players is the way forward?

I am offended by his comments, and I am not one of those people, I don't abuse players or management at games, I criticise on here, constructively I think in most cases and ,would love the opportunity of doing it face to face. Abuse isn't the way forward , but you have to understand the frustration of the fans. As for Hignett I don't want him in the dugout, I don't want him at the club, I think that is obvious.

Without Hignett it’s quite possible we would no longer have a club. Why be offended by something not aimed at you?

Where has Hignett obsession manifested from, what is it based on?

He had a go at our fans. He may have a point, but in his position you should think it not say it.

Obsession ? don't think so. I just think he lacks the personality ,values , morals and knowledge we need at the club.

Personality tick.

Football knowledge tick.

Values? As in, play up, play up and play the game?

Morals??? Anybody who is not actually embezzling money from the club or engaged in other criminal activity has the 'morals' to be involved in football.

We have or had people inside our club giving jobs to the boys. We are not a middlesbrough retirement home. Sooner we move away from this approach the better. Secondly the fitness of the team is a disgrace, the people responsible for these decisions are lucky to be in a job.

been saying the same for ages especially the fitness issue. just another lowest point the club has got too again. is there any light at the end of the worlds longest tunnel for pools.

Money knows what it takes to succeed in this division. These players are very short on those qualities. Why is he being judged before has chance to replace them? Utter lunacy.

I don't understand the criticism of the club hierarchy either. The bills are being paid. We're not being wound up. We make signings and the players are paid. The formula is there for the right manager to bring in the right players and gain success. We've got the right manager IMO, just let him fix this broken squad. I think he'll stay and sort it during the summer.

Decisions are being made within the club that are killing us. Player recruitment is killing us, some of the decisions teams on the rec wouldnt make let alone a professional football club. Fitness of the team is almost a piss take to fans paying good money. sort it out and sort it out now. we are a joke.

It can't be sorted out in 5 minutes.

They have had half a season to be physically ready to play part time teams. Surely after 6 months of being run ragged by the telfords, kidsgroves, maidstones and struggling against 9 man halifax late on questions need to be asked over our fitness regime and fitness experts. Maybe hignetts postage stamp comment should be aimed within the club.

How's that Richard Money's fault?

Who has said its moneys fault?

Who has said 8its moneys fault?

There are people blaming him all over social media.

How is it Raj Singhs fault?

How is it Hignett's fault? Training is up to the manager. Recruitment selection is up to the manager. Hignett went out and got the players Bates wanted.

It isn't and I'm sure that is the first thing on his to do list , but he would be naïve to rush in like a bull in a china shop and try and change the world overnight , though he may of upset some already, but given time, change it he will , but first he has to weed out those not up to the task and convince the owners that there is another way.

hignett is director of football, he has overlooked the signing of crocks. The buck stops with him.

Because they make the decisions. Raj recruited Hignett, Hignett recruited Bates, Bates bought shite players, or maybe Hignett did. How do you know the manager picked the players? at some clubs the DOF has that responsibility. A 35 year old injury prone journeyman was signed , a player who looks like he is finished was given a 3 year contract.

I have not seen anyone criticize Raj on this forum. Many folk remember that without Raj............

As for the others.....I find myself agreeing with Mr Horden.

I think he has already convinced them and that's why he got the job. There's a lot to change but I think he will get it done.

I'm not so sure. I think he would of said so on the podcast if he had. I think he can do both ways, but one will take more time and investment than the other. I think Hignett is a tika taka man, and part of the deal was that Money continues with that philosophy. My reading between the lines of that podcast, is that Money would rather do it the ugly way. I may be wrong , we will see. My guess is we will limp over the line this season, attempting to play like Barcelona and generally failing, and then next season it will be Moneys way, assuming he is still here of course. In the meantime Money has got plenty to do IMO, just culling the squad, the new signings will come in the summer, though in the short term he may need a couple of experienced 24- 30 age group pros just to keep us up.

Bates was given a chance due to some results he was pulling out of the bag when in caretaker charge. Fair enough. Even the best managers need a first job in management and it might have worked out. It didn't. Chairmen appoint and sack managers all the time. It doesn't mean they are hopeless at recruitment, otherwise you could level that at every single one of them.

I know the manager picked the players because Hignett said so long before things went sour. I didn't hear any protests from Bates. Who was mates with Davies? Wasn't Hignett. Raj teamed up with a guy with a great football CV who knew the club. He had made mistakes at Darlo that he didn't want to repeat. Sounds like a fair course of action to me.

Davies was on a 2 year contracs (it's been stated on a few sites that he had 18 months left). Nobody called him finished when he signed. There was much pleasure expressed when we got him. It didn't work out. It would have been great if was a Gabbiadini or a Watson but he wasn't quite there. As has been stated countless times before, we don't have the money to buy high quality players unless they are a gamble.

Fair enough. I don't think we can afford to gamble either, especially in the case of offering long contracts as opposed to decent wages. It was Williams I was referring to regards the 3 year contract.

Personally I think the clubs financial woes will surface again very soon. They must be leaking money, with low gates, low take up of corporate hospitality, poor catering provision at games and a poor club shop.

Ah Williams. If he really got a 3 year contract then yes that's a scandal. I'm a bit disappointed that the extra revenue sources have not been sorted out. Much was promised in that regard. Singh is apparently no fool in business so I hope he gets it sorted.

This thread has again developed into why some people think the club is failing. Some appear to think it’s just one big continuous failure.
I’m a bit crazy. I moan, we all do, but I’ve never used the club as a whipping boy because it doesn’t follow my advice. Why would I as I know Jack shit about running one anyway.
Once again, no matter what happens the response is unfailingly negative. Think you’ve solved one problem and somebody turns up with a fresh problem hatched in the echo chamber of their own contradictory imagination.
The dust is never allowed to settle and assess the new situation, as there’s a need in some to keep digging up the corpse of past failures and parading it.
The level of negativity really is quite astonishing, in fact I’d class it as a disturbing compulsion to dwell in an alternative reality. The motto being ‘It’s my club, I don’t own it or pay the bills but I must be listened to’.

All very true Snowy the level of garbage spouted on various forums is staggering I am not going to waste my time trying to be reasoned and balanced anymore. It’s normally met with abuse, nonsense or both.

Just two examples, the comical ‘night training’ suggestion on another thread one of the chief protagonists posting stuff in this thread that is plain bollocks. I am assuming the 35 year old journeyman was Davies who was actually 33 when he signed had played all his football at a much higher level had no real history of injuries in previous seasons before he joined Pools. Nobody at the time thought that was a bad signing, nobody, on paper one of the National Leagues top summer signings and we got him on a relatively low wage because circumstances meant he had to be closer to home. So keeping all of that in mind how creditable do we think the suggestion of Luke Willams being on a three year deal is? Not very would be my guess.

It’s getting to a point were some of this rubbish is barely worth reading never mind contributing to.

I agree Snowy , and our fans are unique in that they are possibly the worst for it, even though you will find its the way of the world in football now, since the advent of social media, fans at every club whinge non stop. In defence of our fans, our situation is unique as well, with us arguably being the most unsuccessful established club in English football. In the bad times the memories of the good times can sometimes get you through, we have no such memories to be able to do that.


As for some of the comments made, Pools fans are known to have a gallows style humour , which means people take the p*ss out of themselves or their club in order to handle a depressing situation. I think if you look closer the some of the posters are doing that and making a joke of the situation to ease the pain rather than attack the club or its employees directly , which has all been done before and is rather pointless. I think , and you should know as a long standing supporter, a lot on here are doing that, whether consciously or sub consciously. I think you are taking it to seriously.

In fact reading through the thread again, I find there are some good posts on it, fans talking open and honestly about how they see things , what they think the problem is and how that problem could be addressed, what I thought message boards were about.

I think there were good times and a lot of them happened under IOR Mr Horden.

We were pretty consistently challenging for promotion, getting promoted or playing at a level higher than we were used to for the best part of a decade. Given the size of the club and the financial nature of the town I find it hard to see how times could have been much better.

Once the backing from Norway stopped we started to struggle and slipped back to our traditional level. Then we got robbed by crooks who would have happily seen the club go under. The problem with remembering the good times is that lots of people seem to believe that the high standard of football and the feeling that the club was on the up are the norm for Pools. Crooks are gone, back to normal please. The problem is that the club was so badly damaged that recovery, just to being a middling fourth tier outfit, is likely to take time and patience.

Its hard to talk about good things happening at pools and positives, when your getting taken apart by part time and conference north teams. Is it not time we were given something anything to give us some hope? Is there any wonder why there is negativity round the club? What do fans expect positivity watching what where watching.

Williams did not get a 3 year deal. HTH

Is there a central register of players contracts?
I see a lot of statements saying player x is on a 2 year contract and player y is on a 3 year contract but how does everyone know.
A 3 year contract may really be a 1 year with options to extend for a year after 12 months and then again after 24 months and be dependent on the individuals performance/ team performance /just about anything.
Could Davies contract have a six month review clause etc etc etc etc.
I really dont know but are people just speculating or passing on rumours or do they know?

No but a bit of common sense and understanding of the bigger picture wouldn’t go amiss surely?

The hope you have been given is literally that by people putting money into the club to make sure it continued (not people taking from it) you also have the hope of them employing an experienced and successful manager going forward.

The playing squad is where it is because in two successive seasons the club ran out of money and conducted fire sales. This has absolutely nothing to do with the current set up, they are merely picking up the pieces on several different fronts due to the mess left behind by chancers and conmen. It is not going to be rectified in six months, by the start of next season when the manager has had a chance to shape things we are working with a bigger playing budget I’d say we have genuine hope of things improving on the field. People talking about new lows have a very short memory, think back to last January. It’s shit alright but we are still here, one or two things could have gone better obviously but nobody at the club currently at the club is to blame for where we find ourselves yet they appear to be on the receiving end of more anger than some of the chancers previous, which I’m really struggling with in terms of logic to be honest.

Whilst I completely understand why people are annoyed at the last few weeks, its’ been comedy gold on social media. The outcry after the podcast has been brilliant, moronic fans completely twisting what they were saying to suit their agenda, not once did anyone on that podcast say it was the fans fault. They simply stated Money is new in the job and needs backing, forget the past and try be a bit more positive. 95% of people listened to it that way but the usual idiots have taken it to heart and assumed they are trying to say it’s the fans fault for recent bad results.
A select few also seem to have a strange obsession with Hignett and going apeshit over the fact he is helping out with the coaching side of things. Why are people so bothered? He is a coach, it makes sense for him to help out. I’m sure if certain morons didn’t have a personal agenda against Hignett they would be saying he should be helping out to save the club money. The funniest response I’ve seen is that Hignett is only helping out because Money has a heart problem – I don’t even know where to start with that comment, such a bizarre rumour to try and start.
Most people with half a brain knew this season was going to be difficult.

New nickname for Hignett; The Defibrillator.

Usual suspects muck spreading under the guise of Opinion, there is a family of them who do it non stop, I assume the family tree is a Cactus

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