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According to Kennedy in the Mail (who can’t even get his age right in the article so it doesn’t warrant a link) he could be off back to the SPL.

Something is off here, maybe he’s a bit too close to Bates and is not happy with his sacking. Maybe Money sees it as a way to get a high, probably the highest earner off the books so he can bring a couple of decent players in. But that back four looked pretty weak on paper to me today, I’ve not seen the lad Rodgers to be fair. Davies has been frustrating in terms of game time but if you got half a season out of him he’d be one of the best players in the League. Even if he goes surely Magnay is better at centre half just for a bit of experience?


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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For me he can go, he's been decent enough but we can't carry players who are going to play so few games . He will probably be on good money as well so it will free some money up.


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I can see that especially if he’s downed tools since Bates was sacked, in fact if that’s the case he can’t just go, he can fuck right off. But I suppose every story has two sides. I can definitely smell something in this though.

The annoying thing is in recent years he’s played a lot of games every season, it must be just Pools!!


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I can see that especially if he’s downed tools since Bates was sacked, in fact if that’s the case he can’t just go, he can fuck right off. But I suppose every story has two sides. I can definitely smell something in this though.


Strewth, second time today that I agree with you. And let's not forget Luke Williams.................

So, where is our exalted DoF?


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Shame if it's true. He was a cut above against Gatesheed on Boxing day, even if we did lose. But there's clearly something amiss if he only plays once every two months.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
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I can see that especially if he’s downed tools since Bates was sacked, in fact if that’s the case he can’t just go, he can fuck right off. But I suppose every story has two sides. I can definitely smell something in this though.


Strewth, second time today that I agree with you. And let's not forget Luke Williams.............

So, where is our exalted DoF?


Both are cracking signings on paper really, if you were offered both at this level you would take them. I’m not sure I would blame Hignett if the manager wanted both.

Have you watched Sunderland Till I Die yet on Netflix? If you do and follow the story of Jonny Williams, a cracking player as well, you might think a bit differently about Luke Williams. He doesn’t want to be injured it has destroyed a massively promising career and talent. When we signed he was fit and ready to play I feel sorry for the lad.


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Typical Pools, we get a central defender who we needed for years. Then (if true) doesn't work out for us. Big shame, but do agree we need players who can play every game not the odd month he and there.


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Big bust up after been reprimanded for not wearing shinpads in cup replay v Gillingham , yep unbelievable isn't it? well it would be at any other club.

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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Surely he should be reprimanded for not wearing them ? He can hardly keep himself fit without taking additional risks.

He can fook right off if he thinks he's bigger than the club imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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He twisted his ankle against Gillingham didn’t he not an injury preventable by shin pads? That’s not to say he shouldn’t have been wearing any, all very bizarre. Plus he’s played since at Gateshead, surely something has happened since then?


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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I'm pretty sure the Davies deal was announced as a 3 year contract but now Kennedy says he has 18 months left on it?

Either way, if he wants to go back up to Scotland I reckon the club shouldn't stand in his way. He's excellent when the ball is in the air, not quick or entirely convincing when it's on the deck. For however long he's got left on his contract, he'd probably going to miss as many games as he starts.


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Davies has been one of the biggest disappointments of a wretched season. Declares himself fit one day, declares himself unfit the next... joke. I’ll be happy to see the back of the smoggie prick


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Davies has been one of the biggest disappointments of a wretched season. Declares himself fit one day, declares himself unfit the next... joke. I’ll be happy to see the back of the smoggie prick


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I would take any notice of anything the bloke in the Mail writes he’s a lazy guesswork merchant in the summer he was an embarrassment to his profession.

His deal was two years as a player and the final year player coach by all accounts so he has more than 18 months left. Something is off though without a doubt.


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Suppose some shinpads have ankle supports attached which could maybe help. I dunno.

Not fussed if he goes, he stands out as he wins a lot of headers, but not sure he does much else, not looked but I'd wager a bet we concede more when he plays. Tbh I preferred that other centre back we got from Scotland, got injured a lot too. Can't remember his name like.

I expected Money to come in and have a similar effect to Wadsworth ie making us hard to beat starting from the back and making the best out of what's at his disposal.

Massively underwhelmed so far, doesn't seem like he has a plan of how he wants us to play and seems to have brought Wilson's Tombola with him. Bored rigid watching it too.

Maybe if he took over straight from Bates, the turgid football wouldn't stand out as much but compared to the entertaining football Hignett had us playing inbetween then it's fucking dire.

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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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He wont want to spend last 18 months of a career playing in Conference relegation battle and looks like he thinks that is what will be happening. New owners at Pools but nothing has changed really always the manager gets the blame but everyone else at the club keeps their cushy jobs including people that keep hiring duff managers. Fare play to him if he wants to finish his playing games at a good team he has obviously been around long enough to recognise a sinking ship when he sees one.


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Hignett managed one home game that we lost 2–1, didn’t we play alright against Gateshead the other day?

Maybe just maybe in a very short space of time it’s not all about who is manager? Is not FIFA the manager doesn’t make decisions when an individual is on the ball. What do you expect in 5 games from a manager with the same players? This is part of the issue here, he’s an experienced and successful manager he needs time to put his team together. The only time new managers turn around teams is when they already have a team of good players and they are being badly managed. Money has inherited the early stages of recovering from a mess. It’s easier not having to watch it I know but I’m sure I’d be consistent in this view if I was.


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According to Kennedy in the Mail (who can’t even get his age right in the article so it doesn’t warrant a link) he could be off back to the SPL.

Something is off here, maybe he’s a bit too close to Bates and is not happy with his sacking. Maybe Money sees it as a way to get a high, probably the highest earner off the books so he can bring a couple of decent players in. But that back four looked pretty weak on paper to me today, I’ve not seen the lad Rodgers to be fair. Davies has been frustrating in terms of game time but if you got half a season out of him he’d be one of the best players in the League. Even if he goes surely Magnay is better at centre half just for a bit of experience?


I've missed loads of games over the last 2 months but been to the last 2 and I really rate Rodgers although even he was prone to an error towards the end of the game today....hopefully he doesn't succumb to the disease of being unable to play well for us that seems to affect so many very decent players :(

He is confident in possession and competent at carrying the ball out of defence as well as being quick enough to get away from the chasing forward. I like him, good player.


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Surely he should be reprimanded for not wearing them ? He can hardly keep himself fit without taking additional risks.

He can fook right off if he thinks he's bigger than the club imo.


I'm guessing he probably was, as was his manager at the time , one has since left and it looks like the other is leaving. 500 + games wearing shinpads and suddenly when he turns up at good old Hartlepool thinks he can take to the field not wearing any. As well as been illegal, had he suffered a career ending leg break his insurance could well have been invalidated, unbelievable Jeff :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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shilts wrote:
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According to Kennedy in the Mail (who can’t even get his age right in the article so it doesn’t warrant a link) he could be off back to the SPL.

Something is off here, maybe he’s a bit too close to Bates and is not happy with his sacking. Maybe Money sees it as a way to get a high, probably the highest earner off the books so he can bring a couple of decent players in. But that back four looked pretty weak on paper to me today, I’ve not seen the lad Rodgers to be fair. Davies has been frustrating in terms of game time but if you got half a season out of him he’d be one of the best players in the League. Even if he goes surely Magnay is better at centre half just for a bit of experience?


I've missed loads of games over the last 2 months but been to the last 2 and I really rate Rodgers although even he was prone to an error towards the end of the game today....hopefully he doesn't succumb to the disease of being unable to play well for us that seems to affect so many very decent players :(

He is confident in possession and competent at carrying the ball out of defence as well as being quick enough to get away from the chasing forward. I like him, good player.


FFS which game were you watching today? Roy Rodgers was fcuking shit - his horse could have done better - he actually got worse the longer the game went on - send him back to Stanley ASAP Money- we can and must do better than this.


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I think there is a potential good player in Rodgers, today he was neither shite nor good, a bit better than average, but he was playing in a terrible back four pairing, that couldn't have helped.

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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Sorry but IMO Rodgers was predominantly shit today just as he was against H&W when he was hooked at half-time. The defence and midfield, although not brilliant, did OK against a side in a play-off position on NYD so why change things around against a team in the bottom four? Is this the big I AM from Money or can he just not help himself from playing Football Manager?


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Opinions Joe. In my eyes the team had to be changed today with the return of Cassidy, however the other selections did seem odd. We all see it differently but I definitely think he should of started with 2 up front.

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Davies? Less appearances than those elusive birds that draw bird watchers to the Headland from far and wide to photograph them. If he wants out, let him go. A very disappointing signing.

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Sick note.....scatter him if possible.

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Sick note.....scatter him if possible.



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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Rodgers was quality at Chesterfield and stopped an almost certain goal with a last ditch tackle. He was excellent when carrying the ball out of defence and looked very comfortable and confident.

He made one mistake that I can recall yesterday but one or two mistakes does not make a bad player.

I haven't seen loads of him as I've said but from what I have seen he's a player I'd be happy for us to sign permanently if that was an option.


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Rodgers was quality at Chesterfield and stopped an almost certain goal with a last ditch tackle. He was excellent when carrying the ball out of defence and looked very comfortable and confident.

He made one mistake that I can recall yesterday but one or two mistakes does not make a bad player.

I haven't seen loads of him as I've said but from what I have seen he's a player I'd be happy for us to sign permanently if that was an option.


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 Post subject: Re: Davies
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Rodgers gets beaten far too easily for both the goals yesterday. I wasn't there yesterday but this looks exactly the same sort of display he gave against Havant where he got tortured at full back and hauled off at half time as he was a total liability. He was lightweight at Gateshead as well like a weaker version of Kitching.
No good having lovely skills carrying the ball out of defence if you cant tackle. God only knows how bad he would be against a good team if he cant defend against the likes of Maidstone and Havant

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shilts wrote:
Rodgers was quality at Chesterfield and stopped an almost certain goal with a last ditch tackle. He was excellent when carrying the ball out of defence and looked very comfortable and confident.

He made one mistake that I can recall yesterday but one or two mistakes does not make a bad player.

I haven't seen loads of him as I've said but from what I have seen he's a player I'd be happy for us to sign permanently if that was an option.

"....one or two mistakes does not make a bad player". Tell that to Kioso!

I do not understand how the lad has fallen out of favour after the one blunder against Barnet. For me he should be in the starting eleven every week as should Davies when fit.


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Yeah, I don't get why Kioso has fallen out of favour, I thought he was recovering from injury...


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with Davies 11 pts from 12 games (0.91 pts per game)

without 25 pts from 17 games (1.47 pts per game)

That would work out at 43 pts and 10th over the 29 games if he hadn't played

Or if he'd played them all 27 pts and 21st (last relegation place)

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with Davies 11 pts from 12 games (0.91 pts per game)

without 25 pts from 17 games (1.47 pts per game)

That would work out at 43 pts and 10th over the 29 games if he hadn't played

Or if he'd played them all 27 pts and 21st (last relegation place)



Interesting stats, I can't see the club standing in his way if he wants to go.


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It's all well and good slagging rodgers for the goals.but you obviously didn't notice him covering for our invisible left back kitching who was missing in action again.how many more times does he fail to track back ?


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Rodgers wouldn't be the first half decent player ( at previous clubs anyway ) to come here and look poor/average. Its this fookin club man , in the main run by amateurs since 1908. How the hell we managed to stay in the Football league so long will be baffling football experts for centuries to come.

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It's all well and good slagging rodgers for the goals.but you obviously didn't notice him covering for our invisible left back kitching who was missing in action again.how many more times does he fail to track back ?


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Blaming Kitching for Rogers lack of heart is stupid. Look at both the goald he shows no desire or urgency to stop the cross coming in, he should be throwing himself into a block or taking the man out both times he is slow to get to the player than does nothing. He was exactly the same against Havant and Gateshead. He is a very poor defender and that is probably why he is here. We looked much better with Anderson and Magnay at centre half so no idea why the manager changed it.


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Kitching spent tons of time in the opposition's half when Bates was playing with 3 centre backs and 2 wing backs. It didn't work out because Kitching's final ball usually wasn't good enough, so it makes sense that Money is looking for a couple of genuine wingers.

No idea though why Kitching is still allowed to get forward as much as he does in a flat back four. Quick ball over the top from Maidstone, Rodgers moves across to try (and fail) to make a tackle, ball comes in, Magnay is too late running back from midfield (from midfield!!!) and bingo, a goal for Maidstone.

So easy they did it twice.

Hopefully the manager will have learned something from this.

Just to be clear, both the centre backs were poor on Saturday. Loughlin in the Echo gave Anderson a 3 and Rodgers a 4. A bit harsh, but only a bit.


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Don't take notice of the press for a start probably someone who has never played before.money played a back four on Sat so kitching didn't track back for the goals if he'd have been in his position they might not have scored.in a back three fair enough bomb on but not a back four sorry he was at fault and to so it twice Mmmmm.


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Don't take notice of the press for a start probably someone who has never played before.money played a back four on Sat so kitching didn't track back for the goals if he'd have been in his position they might not have scored.in a back three fair enough bomb on but not a back four sorry he was at fault and to so it twice Mmmmm.


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It's official..... :roll:

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Well its not difficult to read between the lines there is it? a cover up , if there ever was one. A great professional , who thought it would be okay to take to the field not wearing shinpads.

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Reading that statement and his comments, you could be forgiven for thinking that his career was over and he was retiring. We’ll see.

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Frees up some cash to invest elsewhere in the squad or................. catering :confusion-shrug:

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