www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2018/fe ... donations/

Pools own Solicitor lol

Read between the lines. 36k allow them to continue to trade. For how long may I ask?

Ah, its answered. 'fullfill its commitments in February'. Sounds ominous.

"comfort and confirmation"......yeah right

Club solicitor versus friends ? Last week they were talking about paying local creditors first but are now basically paying whoever the club tells them to in whatever order they are told. They should just hand over the remaining funds today and be done with it then close the page down.
Meanwhile no statement saying how staff are going to be paid in February and March. I am sure that will do wonders for morale.

I thought the fundraising group had their own solicitor? Where was he/she?

What a mess.

It’s fairly clear how it’s been pitched as well, give us this money or the club will not see out the month...

That leaves about 37K to pay off creditors, then there,s only the small matter of wages at the end of the month! For how much longer can this agony go on?

Didn’t the club say they would let them watch them pay the money to whoever is owed as well?

All of that good will poured into a black hole never to be seen again.

I feel sorry for the girl who started the page to be honest, she started it with nothing other than wanting the best for her club and she’s been dragged into this sordid mess.

First person to get paid will be the chairman/woman.


Cant believe some fans still think theres hope for a new investor to save us from Admin/Liquidation.
Totally delusional smell the coffee.

'....used to support ongoing trading commitments of the Club...'

Interesting that. Could mean literally anything.

Disconcertingly vague as Alan Partridge would say

I reckon they have basically been told that if they don’t hand over this cash the next two home games are in doubt. Just a hunch.

Heartbreaking. So, the fundraising that was set up for paying Local Creditors and Staff Salaries, has actually paid off a Tax Bill and got the next two matches on? I'm dumbfounded....

Which is precisely why it is a complete and utter waste of extremely well intended cash.

IF the future of the club is all but nailed on liquidation, why put money in when all it's going to do is delay the inevitable and give the absolute cowboy, thieving bastards who are associated with the club the opportunity to line their pockets a bit more before fucking off?

There is no plan to save the club beyond an investor who doesn't exist. If there was one, they'd have come forward before now. The one we did have walked away because of the shocking state of the finances - and those are the bits he was allowed to see!

It's got nothing to do with giving up. Nothing at all. It is all about being realistic with the information we have.

I just hope the utter wankers responsible are prosecuted. How the fuck do these people sleep on a night? Honestly, how? Unless you're a serial killer whose brain has that empathy bit and/or life value missing or not wired properly how can you be comfortable completely fucking over something that means so much to so may people? I'm not even that nice a bloke but I wouldn't do it.

Of course every penny made from gate receipts and other revenue goes straight into Sages pockets and won’t improve the financial situation at all. It just further softens the blow for them. I’m sure some absolutely thick twats will see this as ‘The Bunker’ wanting the club to fold again, are these people really as stupid and naive as this!? I make no apology for being as blunt as that but maybe it’s the only way to get it across now.

Do they seriously think willingly handing thirty odd grand to people who are winding down and asset stripping the club is at all helping the situation? I still think, hope and pray the club can be saved before it’s liquidated but I also think the situation might have to get worse before that savior comes back into play. This money makes no difference, it buys no time the club is insolvent as it stands the staff aren’t getting paid at the end of this month.

Lot's of criticism. What would you honestly of done with the money specifically raised to prolong the survival of the club.

No wonder these sorts keep taking us over. Can take what you want without anyone batting an eye lid and then we even start dumping extra money on them.

Put it into a hardship fund for non playing g staff club employees

It’s more frustration, I’m certainly not criticising the girl who set up the page who has been dragged from the pillar to post. My main criticism is for the people who are twisting the truth and putting words into peoples mouths. Originally to goal was to raise £200,000 to help the club get to the end of January the goal posts have been moved time and time again and ultimately what has happened is what most people who have any ounce of common sense had major concerns about.

I thought a solicitor was involved on the side of the page? Why go into the meeting with no legal representation when Duxbury had it?

Coxall managed it, even had the local journos in the palm of his hand.

Pams managed it, got the fans paying the bills whilst they keep the money themselves.

I wish I could own pools as you can pretty much say anything n people will believe you.



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It’s a third well intentioned, a third stupidity and a third glory seeking and self aggrandising

Wonder what Cawkwell is charging the club? Just for info he was the guy who was involved in advising and setting up the new company that acquired the DFC assets as a CIC - Community Interests Company. He did very well out of the club in terms of legal fees according to our published accounts. I’d imagine he’s getting his feet under table for when the inevitable happens.

Jesus.

They should make a t.v. documentry out of this saga and call it " How to be a bunch of twats and make loads a money"

I don’t believe Sage will take any of this money. I believe their statement that it will be used to pay debts and see us to the end of the month. Without this Just giving money we may not have made it this far. However wages are due at the end of the month then there is March to cover then April etc. I really cannot see this happening although I realise there are some who still live in hope. The money left, about 34 K after expenses won’t go far. We desperately need the news that a genuine investor is to step in otherwise we will have to bow to the inevitable - however unpalatable that may be.

The issue Geoff is who the creditors are, they themselves are the main one. They are claiming that the club is costing up to £180,000 a month, so I don’t think £80,000 is buying any time realistically. Of course we’d have made it this far how wouldn’t we have I don’t see that at, up until the last week non of the money had been used so without it we’d be exactly where we are now. I suppose paying the tax bill does prolong things but that wouldn’t have come into play yet.

Ultimately the best result for Sage is someone buys the club off them, at this current time whilst they have huge monthly outgoings to alsorts of associated dodge pots and very little transparency that is highly unlikely so something has to change to move this forward. Handing them money is not the answer. Either Backledge gets realistic or things need to escalate further before things can get better. Of course they are going to make people think this money is making a massive difference and use language like they have in that statement.

I can't believe that some people are still believing the utter bollocks that these thieving twats keep putting in their official club statements. Its time to run them out of town

TURN THE TAP OFF!!! .... when they get 'thirsty' they'll look for a new oasis and be gone.

and self appointed club saviors have taken time out from back slapping each other to allow themselves to be used as part of this.

Are we meant to be eternally grateful or actually take a step back and point out the fucking obvious? Does that mean we care any less or want the club to survive any less? It’s an absolute disgrace to even suggest that.

That statement is either a pack of lies or the club is trading insolvently.

Need the Mexican stand-off to come to a head now that the charity money is spent and see who blinks first.

I reckon that Rachel is the well intentioned third.

I think we knew they were insolvent when they appointed Insolvency Geoff. It is now just Blackledge putting a gun to the fans head and telling them to pay his staff and his bills or he will kill the club. Time to call his bluff. I'm off to The States on Thursday so wont be at Saturdays game and cant imagine there will be much of a crowd there. The biggest injustice being that Duxbury and Watson are the 2 biggest wage earners at the club despite having no experience or qualification to do the job they are doing. Duxbury cant even release a statement written in basic English. I wonder if the pair of them will show their faces at the ground on Saturday !

I'm assuming your use of the name "Backledge" is done in a humorous way PJ, but I see that a certain "friend" of Pools is spelling his name that way on the facebook page's comment about the latest statement.

Darlo fan in peace.

Just to back up what Gums has advised, no doubt some will already know about Cawkwell but have a read of his page for work and the main things he deals with.

https://www.newtons.co.uk/ourpeople/andrew-cawkwell/

He completed some good work for Darlo in those dark days but he also made good money out of the club/fans.

Yeah that’s what I was doing

Or being honest it turns out I don’t even know the bloke who owns Hartlepool United’s name which either tells you how daft I am or could actually be used as a metaphor to sum up the current state of the club, I’ll go for option two

Who would of thought it all this money raised going in to a black hole never to be seen again. Nope not me either

However true or not that may be you can’t and shouldn’t knock people for trying to do what they can and what they think is right to try and save our football club.

They’ve been given the cash; they can do with it what they want. Administration beckons. Sadly.


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Boils my piss. These crooks are trying to drain every last penny from well meaning fans, desperate to save our football club. While these chancers are continuing to be paid for their mistakes

Yeah I get that, and in the main I think the right intentions have been there. But then that makes it even more heart-sinking that so much effort has gone in from them and others who have made t-shirts, ex players auctioning shirts, people donating cash etc. and for what?

And then we see statements today and social media responding to it and it just makes me more pissed off that the club seem to have taken advantage of fans good nature/naivety.

The simple solution was not to give them money until they started providing some answers. Handing it over unconditionally was crazy. They had the club over a barrel and let them off the hook as Blackledge has threatened to pull the plug unless they gave him money and they simply rolled over for him. He clearly has no intention of liquidating the club and you have to question whether he really wants to sell it because at the moment he is taking the piss out of them and getting away with it and he will probably ask for another 100 grand next month !

There is lots of (entirely justified) hatred and venom being aimed at Blackedge, Duxbury & their cohorts here coupled with much speculation of what might or not happen over the forthcoming weeks. Like it or not in the absence of a credible investor Sage are holding all the cards and calling all the shots. No-one outside of Sage can possibly know what their endgame is and certainly nothing can be read into the weasel worded statements that some faceless scribe is feeding to the media. Neither can anyone inside Sage be trusted but that is the current scenario Im afraid - there’s no point in beating ourselves or each other up cos there’s fcuk all we can do except watch and wait.