Tower block fire

horden · **Posted:** Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:27 pm

The PM getting her priorities right again I see.

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The Fat Man · **Joined:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:03 pm **Posts:** 2107

The Colonel wrote:

This is spot on, more or less.

Except, its actually worse.

If the history of this comes out, and hopefully it will, the scenario will have gone something like this:

Council, via its representatives, sends out building tender enquiry.

Quotes come back.

Rydon, who did the work, were the cheapest, but were £1m over the allocated budget.

So, the client gets them in, to discuss "Value enginnering solutions" to get them back to within budget.

They will have looked at everything, except their own OH&P.

One area they could have saved money was the cladding, as it was around 35% of the overall scheme.

They will have looked at the fire regs and said, you have specified you want a 2 hour fire rating, but the minimum standards say you only need upto 1hour.

By changing the insulation you could the legally required minimum standard and a £1m saving.

Council gets all of the certs, compare to th eregultions, and have to approve.

Bingo.

Oh, and Value engineering means to save costs. Nothing else.

Met an old friend last night; he's incredibly busy at the moment as he's a lawyer who specialises in litigation for insurance companies. You been talking to him too Dibs?

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Clearly not. I guess I got this wrong?

I have just been invited to a mid tender meeting for a 850 bed social housing scheme in Sheffield.

Incredibly, the client has asked us to go through a round of value engineering solutions.

In other words, we cant afford to build this like this. But we can afford it if we make it cheaper.

Its time someone went to jail.

The Fat Man · **Joined:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:03 pm **Posts:** 2107

The Colonel wrote:

Clearly not. I guess I got this wrong?

I didn't say that. I can't say anything really!

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