Season tickets so far.

This really is brilliant support after the shit we've witnessed over a number of years we should hit 2,600-2,800 tomorrow.

The signings are good so far as well, no token child signings all players with good first team experience every one of them.

This is as positive as I've felt about Pools for a long time, weirdly given we are playing the likes of Dover and Maidenhead in the coming weeks!

It's incredibly good.

This is a make or break season though.

I doubt people's patience will last forever.

But let's just be happy for now.

And never let anyone say we don't have superb support.

Brilliant support or a town full of gullible masochists?

I'm probably closer to the 2nd and I only go as the alternative is spending Saturday with the Mrs.

Agree though, despite dropping out the league and selling several players it's the most I've looked forward to a season in years.
New teams to visit, promising signings and a manager who is something different.

Tranmere rovers regarded by many as a huge club for the conference, sold 2300 last year when their early bird finished and that was 300 higher than their previous season in the football league.

I never got one last season, and despite being tempted last few weeks, going to pay on the day next season. Cant see there being many of us next season, so whatever ST's sold , despite that been a good show of support, I would imagine that would be about it as far as home crowds are concerned, apart from away fans of course.

Why? People will turn up if we are winning FACT.

Not sure they will at this level, but assume they do, fair enough, but I'm not prepared to take that chance. If they win week in week out, then I'm quite happy to pay at the gate, if not I will not, whereas others will be stuck. Though with signings made I think the play offs are guaranteed, but really we should be looking at 1.,2, and 3rd position, no lower.

Of course they will turn up if we're winning in droves, we're playing at level lower that's all we have a fair weather core of about 2,500 who turn when we are doing well to add to the 3,000 who turn up whatever. People still have Saturdays to fill being one division lower isn't going to change that.

Our season tickets last year were just less than 2,900 so if we have a good day tomorrow we might end up 100-200 shy of that our crowds on a Saturday never really dipped below 3,200 and that was games with no away support. The season ticket sales have shown that you are side of the mark. If we're up near the top end we'll get very good crowds.

So according to your logic, we would still get 3000 if we were in Wearside League?. The crowds will be down by at least 500 this year , no one is going to pay on the gate to watch Borehamwoood on a Tuesday night, unless we are top 3. Only time will tell , but I think a lot of our supporters buy ST's because they cant afford to pay on the day , therefore giving a false impression of our support.

Who pays in to watch the away team?

Average attendance is likely to be down because of away support, hikevsupport will be similar at worst.

away supporters - but wont be many of them next season

Was I talking about away support I gave an example of the lowest crowds on a Saturday when we had less than 100 away fans.

Reading between the lines I see another Bromance being formed! PJ, Mr Butt will get jealous!!!!

I never saw that in your original post. All I'm saying is support will be down, unless we run away with league, and many of our support buy season tickets because they haven't the means to pay on the day. So although 3000 sts sounds good, there wont be many more to add to that. As over last 5 seasons, if we are struggling no one will pay on day as st holders will be giving their st coupons away on the day. No reason why we should struggle , but a lot of people see it as an insult to watch football at this level. same reason Sunderland crowds will drop by around 7 or 8 thousand

Bishop, It's called a discussion I'm sure me and Mr Horden are mature enough to have one were we don't quite agree without falling out.

Monkeybutt can't really do the whole debate/discussion thing without resorting to purile insults or getting pretentious about stuff nobody else has time to give a fuck about like bread and reserve team matches. I am sure in real life he's a very nice man though.

This is why we need to price games better for floating fans, especially tuesday night games. Lets be honest we cant really watch any worse than previous seasons can we? We should win way more games and possibly be in the top 6 most of the season so im not sure crowds wilp slump that much.

Are they intending to charge £20 on the door to watch jumpers for goal posts football?

Careful, Mr PJ—"the likes of" is a Billy Big Boots phrase.
It's exactly the way Coventry described Pools when they had the privilege of finding themselves in our division.

actually can,t see much difference playing boreham wood, bromley or guisley than crawley, barnet or forest green. division 2 is getting like the conference when you look at all these southern ex non league outfits.

Last time we were in the conference national we had one midweek game where the away support numbered 3.
A few other teams managed to scrape into double figures.

It's not really billy big boots it's just a fact that these teams are smaller in stature than clubs we've played in previous League campaigns. I remember when Coventry said that, a few months later they twatted us 5-0 at the Vic.

The club should reduce the pay on the day prices, £18/£20 is way overpriced for national league. We are not going to get many people pay those sort of prices.

I would go £15 and £13 and anything more would be criminal.

I would make it £18 to sit and £16 to stand but don't forget not that long ago we were charging £25

Maybe just do £10 and £5 for midweek games against teams unlikely to bring any away support to speak of. I think it's important to be proactive. But if we are winning people will turn up.

Most teams in the division are 'criminal' then .....

Just got mine today. Wasn't too busy but they said it was over 2500.


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Most teams we will visit will get a decent visiting crowd, we won`t, we need to make it attractive to the floating fan.
I would like to agree with you but then we will both be wrong

The way to attract floating fans is to win games on a regular basis and be competing for promotion. In the past that is when our floating fans have become more regular fans.

You need to strike a balance but no way in the World should Pools be charging below the average admission prices for the division which £15 and £13 would be. Plus if I had a terrrace season ticket at £250 then club announced that you could pay in for £13 I would be seriously pissed off as it represents hardly any saving especially if you miss a few games.

Has anyone actually got their ST yet? Only 3 weeks tomorrow to Dover.

I just renewed my membership of the STE - as an act of faith that Pools are finally about to turn a corner after a 10 year slump.

It was the home fixtures next spring that did made my mind up - who could resist Woking, Ebbsfleet United, Boreham Wood, Bromley, Guiseley and Solihull Motors as a run in?

Minimum 3-0 every game from that little lot, or I want my money back.

I doubt some of these tinpot outfits even have away kits, it could be a big advantage for us in the winter months when the opposition are playing 'skins.'

They'll all be coming straight from work so they can wear their overalls. The ref can check for bicycle clips before kick off.

You would be pissed off if a fellow supporter only paid slightly more than you?

Shame on you.

I work away a bit so will miss a few games. At the current prices a season ticket still works about right for me, but had the on the door prices been lower I'm sure I wouldn't haven't bothered.


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Pissed off might be a bit strong but slightly peeved and not bothering buying a season ticket next season wouldn't be unreasonable.

There has to be an incentive to fork out the full amount all at once otherwise why bother. It also helps the club during close season.

I get that, but for people who are only going to get to half the games for example, I wouldn`t feel agrieved if they paid £15 but welcome of the income rather than not get it.

You suggested £13 for standing which is way too low if you paid in for every game that comes to £299. Why bother with a season ticket?

For people who cant get to every game, would you rather have 10 x £15 than nothing, plus food and drink spend.

FFS you said £13!!!! I said myself I'd possibly go £18 and £16 which is about the average for the division. Most people can manage without food for two hours, alcohol sales I'd imagine bring in far more at Pools.

I think season ticket holders are more important and keeping them. You've not been a Pools fan while we've had a good season and that is not said with any malice you just haven't, cheap tickets are for when we are desperate like the back end of last season and most other seasons in recents years. If Pools are winning and playing decent stuff the Town will respond. It's not that long ago we were getting 5,000+ fairly regularly when season tickets were £400. We had a good team though.

We have been told only months ago that the club was on the brink of administration, you need a balance and have to maximise every posssible stream of revenue.

I agree that the ST holder is paramount to be able to budget etc but once that point of early bird is finished, you have to then attract the part time/working away/floating/mag/mackem/boro away day clan, if you make it attractive at £15, remembering they aren`t going to come to every game, I would rather have 150 paying £15 than 50 paying £18 and if you look at my original post, I said 15 and 13, standing £13, most would choose to sit wouldn`t they, especially if raining!

Some money better than none.. also a good idea to be at the average for the league we are playing in..as for saying it was £25 a few seasons ago is pointless. .we where in league 1 then not NON League and season tickets where £100!

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No. Most pay on the pay punters stand I'd say it's cheapest and most of your walk ups are adults who probably want a few beers and tag along with mates who already go then stand on the terraces. Especially if we return to having cash turnstiles again, which is a must. £15 to sit is way below the division average. Given the average includes clubs who play in fairly ramshackle facilties who charge more than £13 to stand. I bet most Conference North clubs charge more than that. Get in the real World.

£15 and £13 is way below the average for the League we are in.

The old advantage for a season ticket used to be about 3 free games before the 100£ season ticket season . What would that work out at?

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Different times.

A lot of Premier League clubs do a cheaper season ticket than ours were ten years ago.

I don't buy a Season ticket to save money, I just get it out of the way in one go, end of. I have no objection to £15 on the gate to attract the floating fans. If we're winning they'll turn up, but if we aren't.....?
£15 in the till is better than nowt at the end of the day.

I don't get it one post says supporters buy s.t. Because they can't afford to pay on the day. Surely if the can't afford on the day they are the type, unfortunately, that could not pull out the money to buy a season ticket!

as someone who only attends a handful of games i don,t mind paying 20 quid in a league that,s not really much weaker than div.2. can,t see how the attraction of boreham wood is any less than crawley.

I get where PJ is coming from. Ive got a season ticket but will probably miss six or seven home games due to holidays and work. That means I'm paying about £15 a match by getting a season ticket but that's fine by me. But if it was only £13 to pay on the day why would or should I bother with a season ticket?