We need good experienced players but can't get them on loan

northumberland · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:40 am

So says Mr Hignett.

We had no money last season and were a zillion points adrift at the bottom but brought in the likes of Mirfin who got us out the shit.

Sounds a bit defeatist to me.

alibarthez · **Joined:** Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1072

I have to agree, getting sick of his negativity, listening to him wouldn't make me want to join, he hardly sells the club in a positive light, we are only too aware of our financial limitations but FFS there must be better players available desperate for a game.....even out of contract.!!

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

The problem is the wages. I recently had a bloke working with me who was on wolves and Leicesters books at u21 level. He played overseas, came back and currently plays semi pro (striker for cirencester). He earns more like this than he can get playing in league 2.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Imagine you were experienced and good at your job and you went for an interview to see the manager looking like he's had to listen to Justin Beeber on full blast for a week straight and him being so negative. Who'd sign for that?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22670

I think Pools would be better off part time.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

I think Pools would be better off part time.

How exactly!?

The club generates enough money if ran properly to be self sufficient it has for the last 6 or 7 years. We have 3,000 season ticket holders and League Two clubs get plenty of help now the TV deal and Football League.

We've been a full time football league club for nearly 100 years why on earth would we be better off part time, I have no desire to watch Conference North or lower football.

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

Not saying being part time is best but

Can we attract a higher ability player who was free to boost his wages by working during the week?

Are the players we are attracting just drawing a wage as they are short of other options (it's all they know kind of attitude)

Would going part time bring back players with a better attitude? The drive to win, the potential of bigger and better things that come with hard work. (Jamie Vardy springs to mind)

Just a few things to start the debate rolling.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4451

We are mid table for attendances despite 7 years of utter dross. Even supposedly big club Carlisle,having best season for years and near the top, with no club within miles are only averaging 5000. We should be able to compete with most teams in this league. The problems are we have a potless owner and a fairly clueless manager.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9604

The players are part time (hours per week ) and no nite shifts.
A wage structure related to decent win bonus mite be the way forward.
More wins = More fans n more income for the club.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37499

According to his interview, which thankfully ended before I jumped into the docks chained to an anvil, we know the only incoming players will be loans.
The mood was depressing, a long solemn procession of why nothing's going to happen any time soon that left that irritating dark cloud above me a bit darker still. It seems the reason for the possible crash landing at seasons end are being formulated.
All I see is negativity and excuses, I tend to ignore the promises now.

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

Chip Fireball wrote:

The club are actively seeking out prospective managers. He knows this, the media knows this and now even the fans know this.

He is going to be sacked and has been a dead man walking for about 6 weeks.

The CEO fucked off, the Head Coach fucked off, the bloke who bought the club fucked off, and any player who can engineer a move has or probably will fuck off. There's been more loans and winding up orders than we can keep up with and even the Chairman has admitted the players have been paid late.

He's running a club where even the fans are turning on each other, and last night a reporter was told be was going to get twatted by a so called fan, simply for reporting a fact.

Irrespective of whether you think he is a good, bad, or indifferent manager, the one thing the bloke has done is conduct himself with a semblance of dignity. He said in December that players would be going and they would be replaced by kids on loan. The Chairman immediately contradicted him. So far it would appear Hignett was the one telling the truth.

Just looking at the bloke you can see he has aged about a decade in the last 6 months. The only reason he hasn't been sacked yet is because the club are struggling to convince prospective replacements that the job is worth taking.

And folk are having a pop at him for sounding downbeat ? In his position I would have just walked before Christmas.

Spot on chip. In the current plight, the person who deserves any anger is the chairman.

Still, there'll still be fans heading to the game to call the players and manager worse than shit and will feel justified and proud of themselves for doing so.

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

Every week I await the team announcement with hope in my heart that he has given new blood the chance on the bench and every week I realise how deluded I am!
Oates is our trump card ffs banghead

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Are you on glue?

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

PJPoolie wrote:

Are you on glue?

Holds breath while pj hignett explains!

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Oates tries hard but he is way out of his depth playing League football. He can't even shoot out strike a ball properly which quite important for a forward to suggest he is out trump card is laughable.

yloop · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:56 pm

I think he is bemoaning the fact that Oates seems to be our bench saviour.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4451

I dont think their is any argument that hignett has a very difficult job with these guys in charge. He said it how it was in december and fair play to him for doing that. Unfortunately he hasnt helped himself with some rather strange tactics at times. I still think a better manager can have this team playing reasonably well consistently. Saying that who on earth would want to be the manager? with the deluded in charge.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

yloop wrote:

I think he is bemoaning the fact that Oates seems to be our bench saviour.

Are maybe, he has actually rated him in the past.

Who else have got for the bench apart from kids?

yloop · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:14 pm

Hignett could get his boots on?

Worrying times for me, the squad is massive but half of them aren't even going to get near the bench let alone first team. Players wanting to leave and no money to replace them.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:35 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

yloop wrote:

I think he is bemoaning the fact that Oates seems to be our bench saviour.

Are maybe, he has actually rated him in the past.

Who else have got for the bench apart from kids?

Kids who can play, control a ball and score, yes we have them, I watch the reserves and we have 2 more capable than him, but you never win anything with kids huh!
I haven`t rated him in the past, apart from his ability to leap like a salmon, unfortunately his timing is off kilter!

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:36 pm

yloop wrote:

I think he is bemoaning the fact that Oates seems to be our bench saviour.

A man with vision

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

monkeybutt wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

yloop wrote:

I think he is bemoaning the fact that Oates seems to be our bench saviour.

Are maybe, he has actually rated him in the past.

Who else have got for the bench apart from kids?

Kids who can play, control a ball and score, yes we have them, I watch the reserves and we have 2 more capable than him, but you never win anything with kids huh!
I haven`t rated him in the past, apart from his ability to leap like a salmon, unfortunately his timing is off kilter!

Kids have to able to compete physically though reserve team football and League Two football is incomparable.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:19 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

I dont think their is any argument that hignett has a very difficult job with these guys in charge. He said it how it was in december and fair play to him for doing that. Unfortunately he hasnt helped himself with some rather strange tactics at times. I still think a better manager can have this team playing reasonably well consistently. Saying that who on earth would want to be the manager? with the deluded in charge.

I think you are probably right about a new manager, and I'm struggling to understand why the axe hasn't fallen yet, or why Hignett hasn't walked away.

We can only assume GC has spoken to prospective managers and they don't fancy it or they wont work for the wage on offer. I'm sure someone like Dave Jones would do a better job, as he should given how much experience he has, but for now Hignett is being hung out to dry.

Its right what he says, you wont get clubs giving you experienced professionals with the new loan system. People mentioned Mirfin, but there's a world of difference between getting a guy in for a month who is out of favour if you pay a big chunk of his wages, compared to asking a club to lend you a player for 4 months while they continue to pay him.

We can only hope that now Carroll and Toto have gone that's the end of the departures, we certainly wouldn't want to be losing Thomas or Amond if they are not going to be replaced.

I think all the eggs are in the basket with regards to Thomas, I believe he is the golden egg and what coxhall has been lending money on, I`m not always right but i`m never wrong!

We need good experienced players but can't get them on loan

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