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Disgusting. Should have been banned per se - there is no excuse for this regardless of who he is - what an asshole.


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So you are condoning 100mph+ driving PJ?


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Smokin Joe wrote:
So you are condoning 100mph+ driving PJ?


Yes, yes I am. That is clearly what I'm doing here.

In fact I'm doing 110 on the A19 as I post this.


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What person in financial hardship drives an A4 S Line?
Hopefully he has learnt his lesson and understands what he stands to lose.
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Disgusting. Should have been banned per se - there is no excuse for this regardless of who he is - what an asshole.


Got to agree, many others suffering a lengthy ban for a lot less speed and needing licence a lot more than reasons given here.

Daughter and four of her nursing colleagues all caught on approach to Sunderland hosp the other week after being called into work for an emergency on the baby ICU. Yes all speeding all given points and given a fine.

Daughters speed was 33 in a 30 zone and fine was £100.

Wonder who needs licence more or the need to get to work more. Ok all broke the law and therefore take consequences.

Maybe or maybe not one of these could have lost their job too. So put that into context.

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Meanwhile in the real World.

Anyone in Hignett's or anyone's position though would do exactly the same. You try your best to keep your driving licence especially if your job is dependant on it. The court would treat it exactly same the same as well whether he was a football manager or in sales or was HGV drive. You have to plead to court why you need to keep your driving licence. It also doesn't say he's suffering financial hardship it says he could if he lost his job. As I say any of you would do exactly the same in that position. That is not condoning speeding, or saying he should having been doing over 100mph. I suppose you are all perfect and lived your lives to the letter of the law.


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poolymad wrote:
Smokin Joe wrote:
Disgusting. Should have been banned per se - there is no excuse for this regardless of who he is - what an asshole.


Got to agree, many others suffering a lengthy ban for a lot less speed and needing licence a lot more than reasons given here.

Daughter and four of her nursing colleagues all caught on approach to Sunderland hosp the other week after being called into work for an emergency on the baby ICU. Yes all speeding all given points and given a fine.

Daughters speed was 33 in a 30 zone and fine was £100.

Wonder who needs licence more or the need to get to work more. Ok all broke the law and therefore take consequences.

Maybe or maybe not one of these could have lost their job too. So put that into context.


She isn't going to lose her licence for doing 33 in a 30 though, she'd get points and a fine or get the chance to do a speed awareness course. Like anyone. If she was caught doing over a 100 or was on 12 points she would have to go to court and say exactly what Hignett has in order to keep her licence.


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Suggest you get into the real world and stop attempting to defend the indefensible PJ - anyone doing 104 mph on a public highway in the UK IS an asshole - end of. Hignett has gone down in my estimation as a result of this and so have you - not that you were very high anyway.


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You don't know me and if you take what I have said as defending him then you are thick.


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it all depends how you look at it though. How many people have been driving in a 40 zone travelling along and it drops to 30 (duel carriageway beside tesco a good example) you keep travelling at 40. You are now travelling the equivalent speed of 93/94 mph on a 70 mph road.

Had you been travelling at 43mph, that would be the same as 100mph on 70 limit.

Hart lane past sacred heart school is 20mph zone. Literally 1 in every 4 or 5 cars comes down there well in excess of 30mph, sometimes 40.

That imo is worse than 100 on moyorway

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PJPoolie wrote:
Meanwhile in the real World.

Anyone in Hignett's or anyone's position though would do exactly the same. You try your best to keep your driving licence especially if your job is dependant on it. The court would treat it exactly same the same as well whether he was a football manager or in sales or was HGV drive. You have to plead to court why you need to keep your driving licence. It also doesn't say he's suffering financial hardship it says he could if he lost his job. As I say any of you would do exactly the same in that position. That is not condoning speeding, or saying he should having been doing over 100mph. I suppose you are all perfect and lived your lives to the letter of the law.


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Some of the most dangerous drivers on A roads and Motorways are ones who drive slowly. Driving 50 mph in a 70 is something you would fail your driving test for but loads do it especially on a Sunday. The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket. Rarely do you see a speed camera on a school run or dangerous road. It's were they can catch people and balance the books.


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Some of the most dangerous drivers on A roads and Motorways are ones who drive slowly. Driving 50 mph in a 70 is something you would fail your driving test for but loads do it especially on a Sunday. The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket. Rarely do you see a speed camera on a school run or dangerous road. It's were they can catch people and balance the books.


This is spot on.

Cant defend Hignett though. But there again. No need to. He was caught, and has paid the penalty. End of.

With regards to PoolieMads posts:

Whole different ball game.

That is the result of a pathetic jobsworth C unt of a copper, who should never be able to sleepat night, and deserves every piece of shit possible thrown at him.

Same goes for all jobsworths in any industry.

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Hes been very lucky.
A classic case of difrent rules for difrent people.

But do agree the speed cameras r an easy moneymaker.
Anyway lets hope he can get our team up to speed for this 4 0 win hes demanding v Newport.
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We need to get the speed from the road into the starting 11....104 mph is nothing .


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We need to get the speed from the road into the starting 11....104 mph is nothing .



Was Nelson with him in the Audi?

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With a brief case of £70k.

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PJPoolie wrote:
Some of the most dangerous drivers on A roads and Motorways are ones who drive slowly. Driving 50 mph in a 70 is something you would fail your driving test for but loads do it especially on a Sunday. The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket. Rarely do you see a speed camera on a school run or dangerous road. It's were they can catch people and balance the books.


The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket!!!!

That statement shows what a bloody idiot you are, the speed limits in this country are there for SAFETY and speed cameras are there to ensure that happens, balance the books my arse.

I wonder if the parents of a recently killed child who was hit by a dickhead doing 60 in a 30 zone would share your views :roll:


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Should have been banned, there really isn't any need for a discussion.

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If he had been banned maybe he could have got one of them buses that drive themselves to get him to training each day.

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On a more general note, I wonder if a banned driver could buy one of them driverless cars? sctatchinghead

They will be in mass production soon I guess.


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Cars already do loads of things that driverless ones will do so they could easily fit speed limit detectors that govern speeds. Governments could make them compulsory but they'd rather collect the fines than improve road safety.

Hignett probably should have got a ban but the courts regularly accept the argument that it would damage my job/career/family life to give a last chance to speeders. Coxall helped him out by saying he'd let him go if he couldn't travel, without that sort of staement from his employer he would have got a ban.


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The way some people are harping on here is as if you have never went over the speed limit in your life.


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Rinkender wrote:
On a more general note, I wonder if a banned driver could buy one of them driverless cars? sctatchinghead

They will be in mass production soon I guess.



That's a good question Rinkender. By end of next year Nissan will have Autopilot for Motorways and traffic jams in mass production as an option and fully autonomous option by 2020 and all the other manufacturers are full speed on introducing this technology as well.

Even with fully autonomous don't think it will help banned drivers in short term as I would imagine legislation/insurance will demand there is an option for the driver to take control of the car. Shame as it would be great to have your car pick you up from the pub for example after a few beers (which the cars will be able to do of course). :cool:

Back to Hignett, yes he was breaking the law and he got his fine, even though it's against the principles of black and white laws I do think there is a big difference between doing 60 in a 30 and 100 on a motorway. 60 in a 30 without doubt is life threatening dangerous driving


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The holier than thou attitude in this thread is just beyond normal levels of comprehension.

No doubt speed limits are there for a good reason (particularly in urban areas) but let's face it, the 70mph limit on dual carriageways and motorways is seriously outdated and was started when cars were a lot less solidly built and mechanically sound.

You can easily do 90 on an M road and 80 on an A road with no trouble being perfectly safe (obviously using your common sense to driving conditions, traffic etc.) 100 is perfectly safe if there are hardly any fuckers around and on a motorway but generally it's a bit too fast. He got his fine, probably deserved, we move on. It's really a non-story.


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Andy McAvoy's Bleached Barnet wrote:
The holier than thou attitude in this thread is just beyond normal levels of comprehension.

No doubt speed limits are there for a good reason (particularly in urban areas) but let's face it, the 70mph limit on dual carriageways and motorways is seriously outdated and was started when cars were a lot less solidly built and mechanically sound.

You can easily do 90 on an M road and 80 on an A road with no trouble being perfectly safe (obviously using your common sense to driving conditions, traffic etc.) 100 is perfectly safe if there are hardly any fuckers around and on a motorway but generally it's a bit too fast. He got his fine, probably deserved, we move on. It's really a non-story.


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It's a total non story n not worth the debate over speed limits.

If he was doing 100mph down davison drive then i'd agree its stupid but its a motorway, it's easy to not even realise your going past 70 at times.

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Some of the most dangerous drivers on A roads and Motorways are ones who drive slowly. Driving 50 mph in a 70 is something you would fail your driving test for but loads do it especially on a Sunday. The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket. Rarely do you see a speed camera on a school run or dangerous road. It's were they can catch people and balance the books.


The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket!!!!

That statement shows what a bloody idiot you are, the speed limits in this country are there for SAFETY and speed cameras are there to ensure that happens, balance the books my arse.

I wonder if the parents of a recently killed child who was hit by a dickhead doing 60 in a 30 zone would share your views :roll:


You sir are beyond stupid.

If you can't understand my point then God help you.

Doing 60 in 30 zone is clearly idiotic, dangerous driving. You hardly ever see any fixed speed cameras or Police cars within cameras in 30 zones outside of really built up residential areas though. They'd rather put them in areas where they know people are likely to be speeding without giving it much thought. The two popular ones in town are near High Tunstall school coming down the bank from Elwick where you have to brake fairly hard to be doing less than 30 and the roundabout near Lidl facing towards the part of the dual carriageway that is a 30 but loads think is 40. There's been a bobby car pretty permanently sitting at the top end of the A19 near Thirsk for months, it's just before you get to the motorway and probably the quietest section of the entire road. If you think he's there with road safety in mind then you are either naive in the extreme or extremely gullible. It's all about numbers and hitting targets.


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There is only one REAL idiot involved here !

That the bloke who, despite having 6 points on his license for two previous speeding convictions, decides to drive at over 100mph where the speed limit (despite peoples opinions as to what it should be) is 70mph.

Complete disregard for the law of the land, and the safety of others, not too mention needing a car for his job.

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Im not going again till Hignett is hung, drawn and quartered.

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Im not going again till Hignett is hung, drawn and quartered.


All of these perfect people who never go over the speed limit can do it.


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I'm not I'm sure he acknowledges he's been foolish. He has been to court and been punished for that .What point am I missing I'm struggling to see one apart from judgemental holier than tho tripe.

But like I said earlier anyone in the same circumstances would do the same in order to avoid a ban.

Separately I also feel strongly about the speeding laws and how they are implemented is this country. They have little or nothing to do with people's safety and everything to do with maximising revenue. How many accidents have speed cameras prevented?


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That's an unanswerable question, as the accidents have been prevented....

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could also ask how many crashes the cameras have caused.

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My mate had to drive to Hull a few years ago to do a speed awareness course after he got done on the M62. What an ass hole/idiot/burn him ect One of the first things the copper doing the course advised was on avoiding unnecessary journeys. My mate put his hand and asked why he couldn't have done the course closer to home to avoid one and he got back " because we need the money"

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I'm not I'm sure he acknowledges he's been foolish. He has been to court and been punished for that .What point am I missing I'm struggling to see one apart from judgemental holier than tho tripe.

But like I said earlier anyone in the same circumstances would do the same in order to avoid a ban.

Separately I also feel strongly about the speeding laws and how they are implemented is this country. They have little or nothing to do with people's safety and everything to do with maximising revenue. How many accidents have speed cameras prevented?


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He speeded, he was dealt with, he's moved on. It's obviously deeply impacted on a few on here's lives so let's give them time to get over it rather than argue.


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Some of the most dangerous drivers on A roads and Motorways are ones who drive slowly. Driving 50 mph in a 70 is something you would fail your driving test for but loads do it especially on a Sunday. The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket. Rarely do you see a speed camera on a school run or dangerous road. It's were they can catch people and balance the books.


The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket!!!!

That statement shows what a bloody idiot you are, the speed limits in this country are there for SAFETY and speed cameras are there to ensure that happens, balance the books my arse.

I wonder if the parents of a recently killed child who was hit by a dickhead doing 60 in a 30 zone would share your views :roll:


You sir are beyond stupid.

If you can't understand my point then God help you.

Doing 60 in 30 zone is clearly idiotic, dangerous driving. You hardly ever see any fixed speed cameras or Police cars within cameras in 30 zones outside of really built up residential areas though. They'd rather put them in areas where they know people are likely to be speeding without giving it much thought. The two popular ones in town are near High Tunstall school coming down the bank from Elwick where you have to brake fairly hard to be doing less than 30 and the roundabout near Lidl facing towards the part of the dual carriageway that is a 30 but loads think is 40. There's been a bobby car pretty permanently sitting at the top end of the A19 near Thirsk for months, it's just before you get to the motorway and probably the quietest section of the entire road. If you think he's there with road safety in mind then you are either naive in the extreme or extremely gullible. It's all about numbers and hitting targets.


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I'm not I'm sure he acknowledges he's been foolish. He has been to court and been punished for that .What point am I missing I'm struggling to see one apart from judgemental holier than tho tripe.

But like I said earlier anyone in the same circumstances would do the same in order to avoid a ban.

Separately I also feel strongly about the speeding laws and how they are implemented is this country. They have little or nothing to do with people's safety and everything to do with maximising revenue. How many accidents have speed cameras prevented?


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FFS it really is like slamming your head against brick wall on here at times.

I have never once said he shouldn't have been banned from driving, I am not a judge it is not my decision. What I haven't done is call someone all the names under the sun or gone way over the top because someone drove a car too fast. He's been punished for what he did, personally it has zero impact on my life and zero impact on how the bloke manages our football team. The other stuff I have said is how I feel generally about how Police forces implement speeding fines and try to catch people out. I wish they were more concerned in getting dangerous drivers off the road and keeping people safer than making easy money. Is that too hard to understand?


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"The other stuff I have said is how I feel generally about how Police forces implement speeding fines and try to catch people out. I wish they were more concerned in getting dangerous drivers off the road and keeping people safer than making easy money. Is that too hard to understand?"

Quick game of 'Paradox Spotting' anyone ?

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He speeded, he was dealt with, he's moved on. It's obviously deeply impacted on a few on here's lives so let's give them time to get over it rather than argue.


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I've seen the effect on people, victims and families, both as a Nurse and as a Prison Officer.

Hignett should have been banned, its his third speeding conviction, there really is no argument !

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................but he'll do it again, so will be banned soon enough I guess.

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Are you talking about speeding or dangerous driving? They aren't the same thing are they? He has no convictions for dangerous driving, he's just had 6 points on his licence like millions of other people.


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