Lets have an Offcial EU Poll

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:54 am

Snowy wrote:

It's called democracy. It's pissed me off over the years but there is no better system to date. Polarising topics like this always lead to either side questioning the sanity of the opposition and claiming the power of divine providence over the outcome. Are we suggesting a benevolent dictatorship of the enlightened only being allowed to vote on such topics ?
All wind and piss of course. Like the ebb and flow of the tide, life just goes on and the world keeps turning.

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offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

That's what happens anyway they're called MPS. .. the whole reason why this referendum was a stupid idea

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accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19891

offshorepoolie wrote:

It will be rather amusing if they decide to ignore this result. Lets face it if a referendum on capital punishment was held the vote for would probably be higher..that's why they won't have one. .its in our best interest to stay as we are ...in the EU .. Cameron must come forward and admit his tremendous fuck up

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if they thought the result would have gone the way it did they wouldn,t have had a referendum on this either.

suvin50 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:12 pm **Posts:** 92

Of the 382 voting areas 263 voted to leave.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7525

The vote was decided on Immigration and Aysylum seekers, why are all the Asylum Seekers sent north of Watford ? Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Stockton, Hartlepool, Redcar all voted out, maybe Redcar because of the Steel Works closure.
The average man in the street has no interest about world economics, trade agreements etc or how an out vote would affect his finances.
As long as he can afford a couple of beers, bottle of wine, take away and his Sky TV he is happy.
It was a protest vote against the government, if it had been an Election they would have lost that as well.

returnofaido · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:41 am

Jamie1952 wrote:

The vote was decided on Immigration and Aysylum seekers, why are all the Asylum Seekers sent north of Watford ? Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Stockton, Hartlepool, Redcar all voted out, maybe Redcar because of the Steel Works closure.
The average man in the street has no interest about world economics, trade agreements etc or how an out vote would affect his finances.
As long as he can afford a couple of beers, bottle of wine, take away and his Sky TV he is happy.
It was a protest vote against the government, if it had been an Election they would have lost that as well.

utter hogwash. anyway, thought you'd be happy now the Tenerife trip will have to be cancelled.

RAY52 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:36 pm **Posts:** 932

Stilled stunned at the result, trying to come to terms with it. Just been doing a bit of shopping with the gaffer and felt like shouting out do you lot really realise what you have done? On the other hand probably not many of them do!

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7525

returnofaido wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

The vote was decided on Immigration and Aysylum seekers, why are all the Asylum Seekers sent north of Watford ? Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Stockton, Hartlepool, Redcar all voted out, maybe Redcar because of the Steel Works closure.
The average man in the street has no interest about world economics, trade agreements etc or how an out vote would affect his finances.
As long as he can afford a couple of beers, bottle of wine, take away and his Sky TV he is happy.
It was a protest vote against the government, if it had been an Election they would have lost that as well.

utter hogwash. anyway, thought you'd be happy now the Tenerife trip will have to be cancelled.

Tenerife won't be cancelled as it would have been paid for upfront piss taker !
So tell me what made people vote out ?

MFR · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:51 am

Thing is Jamie - it wasn't a referendum on "Stick it to the Government cos were sick of all this shite". If it was Id have voted Leave. This referendum is taking us out of Europe and will, by the reckoning of many many experts in their field (which Gove discounted on TV - I mean who the fuck needs the opinion of an expert in their field) will lead to several years of difficult financial times. We are barely recovered from the last load of banker induced chaos, as a country we are indebted up to our fucking eyeballs - and Osborne who has been in charge for long-enough hasnt really dented that - and we didnt need to do this. Business will hold off on investment cos they hate uncertainty, imports get more expensive etc etc.

I get your point that this was seen as an opportunity to stick it to the man, but those who encouraged us to do this as grade one c.u.n.t.s.

And have you heard one Leave MP, ONE, tell you how many immigrants they are going to stop? And when they will start? The morality of doing it apart, I dont think they can provide an answer as they havent a fucking clue.

Im not against democracy at all, and as Snowy pointed out, you just have to roll with the punches and see whats happens. From where Im sitting, those who have urged us to vote Leave have no plan, now no leader, and the economy is fucking fragile. Difficult times and we had no reason to put ourselves in this shitstorm of a place.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:00 pm

Farage admitted the money supposedly going to NHS was a bit of a bluff - this alone should be good reason to have another vote.

Someone I know put on her Facebook page that she was delighted about leaving, but in the same post complained about the exchange rate and how she would now get less Euros for her holiday in Spain next week. She's far from thick, but is representative of loads of people who have a warped sense of entitlement. How do you get them to see the bigger picture?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7525

The majority of people who voted out didn't do it for economic reasons, if there was another Referendum as there might be it would a definite remain.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu- ... m-36629324

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:34 pm

Well we now know that ppl in Hartlepool are thick and racist,so presumably are another 17 million people then in the country that voted out.Folk on here are upset that the Brexit campaigners have come out on top, get over it we live in a democracy.
Just maybe the electorate are fed up with Europe and it's all encompassing need to control every member state.unelected judges from countries with worse human rights than us bringing down judgements against us. I can't understand why we can't deport criminals and stamps their passports never allowing them to return but no we are not allowed to do that
I'm not a great intellectual that others profess on here because they deride other people's opinions it's OK you pigeon hole others.
I didn't like the last two election results,am I allowed to start a petition to reverse them it's democracy deal with it or you could move to Utopia where ever that is.
I apologise in advance for any grammatical or spelling mistakes, but then again I'm thick as I voted to leave

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37661

It's happened. So like a man drifting out to sea on a deflating air bed, you can either worry about jelly fish, sharks, the cold water or howl at the moon, but the only realistic option is swimming for the shore and survival.The air bed's gone and whether anyone approves or disapproves of the result we're all bystanders.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

This daft idea of a petition is just silly. Leave won by majority of the votes cast, thems the rules and no one complained beforehand when it looked like remain has edged it.

We move on, we control our borders and try really hard not to get our collective arses in our hands over short term fluctuations in the market. Britain is fundamentally sound and all the hand wringing in the world doesn't change that.

My bet is that the UK will be offered a deal with the EU on trade no worse than we have today but we will be able to say yes or no to any potential immigrants. This is a good thing in my view.

By the way, as an obvious thick racist, I voted out.

MFR · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:02 pm

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This daft idea of a petition is just silly. Leave won by majority of the votes cast, thems the rules and no one complained beforehand when it looked like remain has edged it.

Totally agree

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We move on, we control our borders and try really hard not to get our collective arses in our hands over short term fluctuations in the market. Britain is fundamentally sound and all the hand wringing in the world doesn't change that.

In the short term, how are we going to control our borders? Are do you mean when A50 has been sorted out?

Not so sure UK is fundamentally sound. Borrowing is v high - both state and personal - housebuilding is slow, growth is slow and we are still recovering from the last shitbag of trouble.

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My bet is that the UK will be offered a deal with the EU on trade no worse than we have today but we will be able to say yes or no to any potential immigrants. This is a good thing in my view.

Well, we'll just disagree eh. EU will want to play hard and firm - whats in it for them to do us a good deal?

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By the way, as an obvious thick racist, I voted out.

Ive never called anyone a think racist for voting out. Not saying your not like, just Ive never said it :laugh:

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7525

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

This daft idea of a petition is just silly. Leave won by majority of the votes cast, thems the rules and no one complained beforehand when it looked like remain has edged it.

We move on, we control our borders and try really hard not to get our collective arses in our hands over short term fluctuations in the market. Britain is fundamentally sound and all the hand wringing in the world doesn't change that.

My bet is that the UK will be offered a deal with the EU on trade no worse than we have today but we will be able to say yes or no to any potential immigrants. This is a good thing in my view.

By the way, as an obvious thick racist, I voted out.

I see it opposite, we won't be offered a deal unless we carry on having an 'open borders' policy.

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:28 pm

Snowy wrote:

It's happened. So like a man drifting out to sea on a deflating air bed, you can either worry about jelly fish, sharks, the cold water or howl at the moon, but the only realistic option is swimming for the shore and survival.The air bed's gone and whether anyone approves or disapproves of the result we're all bystanders.

Very profound,was there any sardines and trawlers involved

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Don't forget that the deal is a two way street. You could argue, with some strong justification that our position is far stronger given the huge trade that EU countries do with Britain.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12368

Jamie1952 wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

This daft idea of a petition is just silly. Leave won by majority of the votes cast, thems the rules and no one complained beforehand when it looked like remain has edged it.

We move on, we control our borders and try really hard not to get our collective arses in our hands over short term fluctuations in the market. Britain is fundamentally sound and all the hand wringing in the world doesn't change that.

My bet is that the UK will be offered a deal with the EU on trade no worse than we have today but we will be able to say yes or no to any potential immigrants. This is a good thing in my view.

By the way, as an obvious thick racist, I voted out.

I see it opposite, we won't be offered a deal unless we carry on having an 'open borders' policy.

Angela Merkel has already urged her fellow EU partners to conduct negotiations with the UK in a positive manner. She said Europe needs us and is prepared to advocate associate membership. She sees Germany as the only country able to fill the £2.4 billion black hole which will be left by our departure. This will create enormous pressure from the German people There are also five other countries (including France and The Netherlands) poised to follow Britain's lead and hold a referendum of their own. The EU, in it's present form, is in danger of falling apart and it is my belief that we will be part of a new and reformed EU on much more favourable terms. They need us, they've always needed us and will move hell and high water to get us back. Got some good vibe information which I can't pass on yet, and probably won't ever be able to but watch this space. We are on the move, my friends.

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:36 pm

I voted remain....

but now we are out I think we should join the Caribbean.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:21 pm

dykey wrote:

I can't understand why we can't deport criminals and stamps their passports never allowing them to return but no we are not allowed to do that

Are you absolutely sure about that? If so, please can you show me some evidence?

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:56 pm

Wasn't their the case of the Romanian rapist who wasnt able to be deported, could be wrong. Or seemingly other miscreants who claim their human rights to a family life are at risk if they get deported.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:04 pm

Like I say, I'd like to see some evidence. Lots of bullshit and half-truths have been bandied about, and this might be another one of those myths that people are willing to believe and spread.

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:13 pm

Im sure both sides spout bullshit. Maybe even you I don't know. But if I have time when I finish work I'll look.

MFR · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:18 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/evan-davis-newsnight-bbc-daniel-hannan-mep-eu-referendum-brexit_uk_576e2967e4b08d2c56393241?edition=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk

This balloon is a Tory MEP, very vocal for the Leave campaign.

This is him being interviewed on newsnight, explaining how they cant really control the borders.

Fucks sake

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:32 pm

Mircea gheorgiu a Romanian rapist who the Home Secretary deported was ordered to be readmitted to this country and granted residency.He didn't commit the rape here but a rapist none the less. Under EU law and freedom of movement we can't keep him out.

Chrissy Stevo · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:17 pm

It was fairly obvious that a leave vote would trigger the drop in the pound and all of the other associated marked losses. It's just a direct result of uncertainty about what happens next. The truth is no one really knows what happens next so folk on both sides can only speculate. My personal view is that we will have a couple of tough years but we will recover. The EU are trying to appear tough on Britain at the moment as they know that there are many other EU members waiting to follow us in leaving.

Personally I didn't vote as I, having listened to both sides of the argument, had no clue how it would affect us in the long term. It was pretty obvious that a remain vote would change very little and a leave vote would have an impact immediately but it's impossible to say how long it will last. I was probably closer to a leave vote than a remain but I wasn't convinced enough to even cast a vote either way.

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Dalton'sHaircut · **Joined:** Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 1013

I genuinely think this idea that we were being controlled by Europe is a big myth. The European Court of Human Rights for all there are some specific examples that we think are crazy is designed to protect the common man against abuse by the state.

Similarly most of the laws passed are in favor of the working man, maximum working weeks, maternity pay, protection of employment. Of course these are claimed to be negatives towards competitiveness (I wonder who doesn't benefit from this sort of legislation and why the Murdoch press focused on bendy bananas not being able to extradite certain criminals etc..)

On top of this other things we suffer from being in EU is laws protecting standards of food quality and preparation, product quality etc. This might cost business more money but is designed to make life better for normal people.

All of that is putting aside the economic arguments given elsewhere. I'm certainly someone who thinks the EU needs reform but for me the disenfranchised in our country have voted out of something which ultimately is probably in their best interests on the persuasion of a right wing elite with no alternative plan. It's the biggest single policy and economic shift since the 2nd world war for Britain so I think it's normal for people to want to debate it and have strong opinions as our futures are at stake.

I actually wanted my kids to feel European and have the opportunity not to be locked inside little England. Britain isn't going to stop globalization by pulling up the drawbridge

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

up to 2 000 000 now don't think they'll be able to ignore this....

Freaky Teeth · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:33 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

up to 2 000 000 now don't think they'll be able to ignore this....

Will make no difference what so ever

Kevin Dixon · **Joined:** Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:04 am **Posts:** 1432

Says it all

Freaky Teeth · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:21 pm

Kevin Dixon wrote:

Says it all

Few people on here that :laugh:

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Democracy is not 37% of the population

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offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

The while process is flauded with many votes being gained by a blatant lie

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offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Which your darling Nazi Nige admitted too

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returnofaido · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:33 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

Democracy is not 37% of the population

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Er, it is like.

Freaky Teeth · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:36 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

The while process is flauded with many votes being gained by a blatant lie

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Maybe the 25% or so who didn't vote couldn't give a shit either way. The top and bottom of it all is the ones who did vote, decided to vote out! We move on and get on with it.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... ation-info

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

3000 jobs and counting ..good result lads .. ..oh a what is Nigel doing with our £350 000 000 for our hospital? ??

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PooliePaul0211 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm **Posts:** 49

http://www.digbylordjones.com/well-my-f ... rning.html

this

PooliePaul0211 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm **Posts:** 49

http://www.betteroffout.net/the-case/10 ... withdrawl/

oh, and this

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Still not telling me where my £350 000 000 is ... but we stand alone again against the might of Germany ..lol. . Problem is we NEVER did...

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Compo · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:25 pm

My missus voted out on one reason alone to be able to vote on who sets our laws. I was suprised at vote especially where I live as its massive Tory and so called rich people.

PooliePaul0211 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm **Posts:** 49

It's astonishing how bitter the 'remainers' are being. And their holier-than-thou attitude is sickening.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Still not told me where my £350 000 000 is..I've got an hospital to sort out

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PooliePaul0211 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm **Posts:** 49

offshorepoolie wrote:

Still not told me where my £350 000 000 is..I've got an hospital to sort out

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Your £350m? It's the taxpayer's £350m that's handed over on a weekly basis to the corrupt and arrogant Jean-Claude Juncker and the unaccountable, undemocratic monolith mate. It'll probably be getting funnelled to Juncker's native Luxembourg while he still has the chance.

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:08 pm

News update, politicians lie just to get your vote and the moon is made of cheese. Stop moaning and accept the thickos didn't accept the status quo.

MFR · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:23 pm

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Your £350m? It's the taxpayer's £350m that's handed over on a weekly basis to the corrupt and arrogant Jean-Claude Juncker and the unaccountable, undemocratic monolith mate. It'll probably be getting funnelled to Juncker's native Luxembourg while he still has the chance.

Quality, pure quality. Enjoy having your country back, enjoy putting the great back into Britain.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

dykey wrote:

News update, politicians lie just to get your vote and the moon is made of cheese. Stop moaning and accept the thickos didn't accept the status quo.

What exactly is the 'status quo' what exactly has your leave vote achieved in that sense and why did you vote leave?

I bet you can't answer any of those questions.

Lets have an Offcial EU Poll

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