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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:08 pm 
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Fatty eats roadkill wrote:
You lot call us deluded but the fact is even when we had one of the richest men in the north east owning us we had a supporters trust. Saved us in the end. I can't believe so many people are negative about you lot. Look at us for an example. Proof of what supporters can and will do to save their club. And no I'm not joining cos I'm a loid but good luck and keep plugging away.


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:15 pm 
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Knacka!!! I was actually wishing your trust good luck but when morons like you are about they're gonna struggle.

Anyway, when are you gonna post on our board again. I miss everyone in Co. Durham calling you a gimp instead of just the Hartlepool outpost.

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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:20 pm 
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I just couldn't really work out what you gibbering on about, you post in riddles, plus quite a lot of the stuff you have said is highly questionable, even if the sentiment was there and that the work that your trust have done to restart the club is admirable. They didn't really save you though did they!?


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:30 pm 
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as usual the Hartlepool oracle is correct stpid

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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
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Is there really any need PJ?


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:32 pm 
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I find it quite strange the apathy of many fans when asked if they wanted a trust update, it wouldn`t hurt to read it or at least be polite!


At least you and the others have the backbone to get things moving mr butt,well done to you all.


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
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Having experienced the graft involved and legal obstacles to navigate in getting a Trust going I have nothing but respect for the Darlington fans who not only formed a Trust but started a new club.

Well done guys, hats completely off to you.


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Having experienced the graft involved and legal obstacles to navigate in getting a Trust going I have nothing but respect for the Darlington fans who not only formed a Trust but started a new club.

Well done guys, hats completely off to you.


So do I Mr I completely, but my slight piss taking was because if you read what Mr Roadkill actually posted he doesn't actually think they set up a new club!

Also, me and you have probably had as much impact on Darlington's rebirth as Sussex. He's never even seen them play!


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:53 pm 
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Have you got anything to say about the Supporters Trust then Pj ??.. And why do you get into a strop every time Darlo get mentioned?,i tell yee lad, folk on here are sick of your tantrums. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
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The ground regulations in the Conference North states you need a minimum capacity of 3000.
Would of thought Darlo trying to get back in the Arena would be the best option which would most probably double the crowds they get at Bishop.
Plus ud get a few thousand visitors if u drew us in the FA Cup.
Salfords ground only holds 1400 but it goes without saying a few palms will be creased to solve that problem given they owned by Millionaires.


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:04 pm 
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I would like to congratulate the organisers of the Supporters Trust for their tenacity in overcoming various obstacles in order to form the Trust. The move to have the Victoria Park declared a community asset was a particularly shrewd move and should give it some protection from speculators. The best of luck to all concerned.
I agree 100% with the aims of the Trust, which are very similar to the aims of the Supporters Association drawn up nearly 30 years ago. I thought it would be an interesting exercise to see if these aims were achieved or are achievable.
1. To improve communications between the club and its supporters.
Communications are a two way thing and unfortunately I.O.R. did not see the need to communicate with supporters, in fact they saw them as a nuisance. Previous chairmen of the club communicated with the S.A., usually when they needed money. Harold Hornsey was an exception. So far Gary Coxall has shown little interest in communicating face to face with supporters. He should have organised a public meeting during the Summer to outline his plans for the club.
2. To strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club.
Directors of football clubs are, in the main, wary of supporters and will not allow them to have a say in the running of their football clubs . The only way that supporters can get a say in club affairs if they have a big enough financial clout. That should be the Trust's first priority.
3. To seek fans representation on the board of the club.
The Supporters Association were allowed a representative on the board before I.O.R. However that rep. had to leave the meeting when items deemed too sensitive for the supporters to know about were under discussion. Again the position of the Trust on the board will depend entirely on the size of Trust's bank balance.
4/5 To work with the club towards safeguarding the future of the club and to be there as a safety net.
The S.A. have always endeavoured to help the club as much as possible, despite the antipathy of I.O.R I am sure the Trust will try to do the same. I hope Gary Coxall appreciates their efforts. In the final analysis, money is the key to success. The bigger the bank balance the greater the chance of the ultimate aim of keeping league football in Hartlepool.
My advice to the trust is build up your bank balance as quickly as possible and do not be sidetracked by small projects .The sooner you have a healthy bank balance the sooner you will have real influence. When supporters see that your are determined to achieve your aims then their support will follow.


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:11 pm 
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All up in the air at the moment kpg. I'd like to see them go back to arena. .In the Supporters Trust, we trust.. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:22 pm 
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Corner Flag wrote:
I would like to congratulate the organisers of the Supporters Trust for their tenacity in overcoming various obstacles in order to form the Trust. The move to have the Victoria Park declared a community asset was a particularly shrewd move and should give it some protection from speculators. The best of luck to all concerned.
I agree 100% with the aims of the Trust, which are very similar to the aims of the Supporters Association drawn up nearly 30 years ago. I thought it would be an interesting exercise to see if these aims were achieved or are achievable.
1. To improve communications between the club and its supporters.
Communications are a two way thing and unfortunately I.O.R. did not see the need to communicate with supporters, in fact they saw them as a nuisance. Previous chairmen of the club communicated with the S.A., usually when they needed money. Harold Hornsey was an exception. So far Gary Coxall has shown little interest in communicating face to face with supporters. He should have organised a public meeting during the Summer to outline his plans for the club.
2. To strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club.
Directors of football clubs are, in the main, wary of supporters and will not allow them to have a say in the running of their football clubs . The only way that supporters can get a say in club affairs if they have a big enough financial clout. That should be the Trust's first priority.
3. To seek fans representation on the board of the club.
The Supporters Association were allowed a representative on the board before I.O.R. However that rep. had to leave the meeting when items deemed too sensitive for the supporters to know about were under discussion. Again the position of the Trust on the board will depend entirely on the size of Trust's bank balance.
4/5 To work with the club towards safeguarding the future of the club and to be there as a safety net.
The S.A. have always endeavoured to help the club as much as possible, despite the antipathy of I.O.R I am sure the Trust will try to do the same. I hope Gary Coxall appreciates their efforts. In the final analysis, money is the key to success. The bigger the bank balance the greater the chance of the ultimate aim of keeping league football in Hartlepool.
My advice to the trust is build up your bank balance as quickly as possible and do not be sidetracked by small projects .The sooner you have a healthy bank balance the sooner you will have real influence. When supporters see that your are determined to achieve your aims then their support will follow.


Thanks for that, much appreciated and I nod my head to your experiences and tenacity over the years.


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:26 pm 
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Loid Haw-Haw of Sussex wrote:
All up in the air at the moment kpg. I'd like to see them go back to arena. .In the Supporters Trust, we trust.. :wink:


It'd be daft not to go back as long as the costs are reasonable. It exists and its in Darlington so if you can do a deal then good stuff. Just be careful it doesn't send you under again. Our 3-0 win there will live a long time in the memory as no doubt will your play off win at Pools. Whether people like it or not; Without the Pools v Darlo games and vice verca, the world of football in the two towns is an awful lot poorer. I would be pleased to see you lot get back to the league so we can again stuff you twice each season :).


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:00 pm 
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There's only two results i look for on a Saturday ,bar a good shag. :wink:

If only you had a Eiffon now, eh ? :roll: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Volunnteers Needed- Supporters Trust
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:01 pm 
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Corner Flag wrote:
I would like to congratulate the organisers of the Supporters Trust for their tenacity in overcoming various obstacles in order to form the Trust. The move to have the Victoria Park declared a community asset was a particularly shrewd move and should give it some protection from speculators. The best of luck to all concerned.
I agree 100% with the aims of the Trust, which are very similar to the aims of the Supporters Association drawn up nearly 30 years ago. I thought it would be an interesting exercise to see if these aims were achieved or are achievable.
1. To improve communications between the club and its supporters.
Communications are a two way thing and unfortunately I.O.R. did not see the need to communicate with supporters, in fact they saw them as a nuisance. Previous chairmen of the club communicated with the S.A., usually when they needed money. Harold Hornsey was an exception. So far Gary Coxall has shown little interest in communicating face to face with supporters. He should have organised a public meeting during the Summer to outline his plans for the club.
2. To strengthen the influence of supporters over the running of the club.
Directors of football clubs are, in the main, wary of supporters and will not allow them to have a say in the running of their football clubs . The only way that supporters can get a say in club affairs if they have a big enough financial clout. That should be the Trust's first priority.
3. To seek fans representation on the board of the club.
The Supporters Association were allowed a representative on the board before I.O.R. However that rep. had to leave the meeting when items deemed too sensitive for the supporters to know about were under discussion. Again the position of the Trust on the board will depend entirely on the size of Trust's bank balance.
4/5 To work with the club towards safeguarding the future of the club and to be there as a safety net.
The S.A. have always endeavoured to help the club as much as possible, despite the antipathy of I.O.R I am sure the Trust will try to do the same. I hope Gary Coxall appreciates their efforts. In the final analysis, money is the key to success. The bigger the bank balance the greater the chance of the ultimate aim of keeping league football in Hartlepool.
My advice to the trust is build up your bank balance as quickly as possible and do not be sidetracked by small projects .The sooner you have a healthy bank balance the sooner you will have real influence. When supporters see that your are determined to achieve your aims then their support will follow.


Great stuff. Let the Fundraising begin!


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