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Gerry Mandrake · **Joined:** Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:23 pm **Posts:** 1453

GeoffcN wrote:

They are still averaging around the 1000 mark. When they were in the league and playing at the much more accessible arena they were getting around the 2000 mark, boosted by more away fans.

If they return to the town and continue to be successful then it wouldn't be long before the crowds were back.

They averaged 3,394 in 2007/08 (first season I found on google), say the 394 are away fans, that's still 2/3 of fans missing from games.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Fans are entitled to believe what they want. There's no right or wrong when it comes to supporting a football team. Aberdeen Pools and I both agree a phoenix club is just another new club, with no ties to any old club. Others will think differently, like a lot of Darlo fans. I can see where they're coming from as a football club IS the fans. Obviously a club's history doesn't follow the supporters to a new club, but a club's history is nothing but memories. Cherish the memories and make new ones with a new team if you wish but whichever club you choose to do that with makes no difference, they won't ever be HUFC.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

The Corner Flag has offered the Suporter's Club's facilities and while I personally believe any trust's membership needs to be kept separate from the supporter's club there's been no better suggestions put forward. Everyone on here wanting to act, meet in the Corner Flag after todays game. Get the wheels in motion.

It's one thing saying act now over and over. We have a home game today, 99% of fans will be in the same place and by 5pm anyone wanting to take action can put the wheels in motion instead of tapping keys on here. I'd say see you all there but I won't hold my breath.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22681

It's a start but please, don't anyone come up the idea of inviting a club representitive. That piece of lunacy killed it last time.

LoyalMonkey1908 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:41 pm **Posts:** 254

First we where divided over who were "club men" and those who were not. Now we're divided over well, I can't even understand what we're divided over now. We're going nowhere though that's for sure. The corner flag has been suggested a couple of times on this thread and nothing's come of it. I give up. We're more bothered about egos than the existence of our club. We might as well just call it a day now.

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5096

If a meeting is to be held, hold it somewhere without drinks available, stops the annoying pissed people trying to be most vociferous ones there

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grabec · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:00 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

The thing is Dianne, whenever there is so much of a whisper on The Bunker of fans getting a voice, I can guarantee you that certain posters will magically appear and start dismissing it.

.

And the other thing is, Mark, if there were any sort of possibility of the fans raising money enough to sustain the Club, there would be no dissenting voices. You're using the 'dissenting voices' as an alibi to avoid facing unpalatable facts.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:08 pm

The Corner Flag is by far the best place to start. The Supporters Association can provide the bank account, already have a committee etc, so it's a no brainer for me.

Dalton'sHaircut · **Joined:** Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 1013

I like the way that people who are not party to the actual running costs of the club nor any idea what running a fans owned club entails just blithely write off the fact that it's possible.

I work in another country, am back for the match today but will do everything I could even remotely to support some sort of action.

Also I think the Corner Flag is for sure the starting conduit and they have offered a practical start point in terms of structure and Finances.

Why not let the supporters association lead and everyone else who genuinely cares support and join in?

grabec · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:50 pm

Look, chip,I wish you every success. I've no idea how these other clubs managed it, but my point was more that none of US (as far as any of us have let on, anyway) have sufficient funds to contribute to running the Club long term.

People who think this are not 'attacking' you, they simply disagree. If I wanted to do something, and thought it worthwhile, I couldn't care less whether people disagreed with me. I'd just do it. That's why I suspect this great emphasis you put on 'dissidents'. It might not be so enjoyable just to ignore them, might it?

ps. It's absolutely freaking hilarious that you think I have driven people from the board. I hardly ever post, for one thing. Shall we ask them who, if anyone, has driven the off?

OddsOnPhil · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:27 am **Posts:** 674

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

Tutankhamun is dead.

yloop · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:29 pm

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

But I thought they passed it and it was announced yesterday. It WAS announced yesterday, wasn't it? This is the ONLY reason we could have signed permanent players. I read it on Facebook, here and ITB, it must be true, tell me it's true?!?!!!!

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Chip Fireball wrote:

Russ Green or IOR and who still believe these people are acting in the best interests of the football club.

I think you'll find they are, to suggest otherwise is a bit silly

Compo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:42 pm

What are the echo doing?? Surely the media could force an answer?

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

I only viewed page 7 I don't know of any texts, I just know to suggest the people mentioned are not working in the club's interest is silly.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Poor effort there russ...

I mean billy.

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Ok let me suggest you won't here any news whilst things are being sorted out, makes sense doesn't it?

Pirlo's Beard. · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:09 pm **Posts:** 300

billythefisherman wrote:

Ok let me suggest you won't here any news whilst things are being sorted out, makes sense doesn't it?

You've played it safe there. The only thing that should be getting "sorted out" is Russ Greens P45.

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

II should have said hear :p

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:54 pm

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

I could pinch Loughlins thunder here having seen what is due to go in the paper tomorrow.
Needless to say, you really need to get cracking with the supporters trust.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

loan_star wrote:

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

I could pinch Loughlins thunder here having seen what is due to go in the paper tomorrow.
Needless to say, you really need to get cracking with the supporters trust.

Pinch away...

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:58 pm

To cut a long story short, a supporters trust is becoming more important by the day. The longer you leave it, the harder it will be.

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

So to repeat, the people who have owned the club for the last decade, have been and are safeguarding our future by ensuring whoever wants to take over the club going forward, is actually legit. Sounds reasonable doesn't it? Any delay is surely a sign of the protracted nature of things, and in all probability a bad sign I reckon

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:21 pm

billythefisherman wrote:

So to repeat, the people who have owned the club for the last decade, have been and are safeguarding our future by ensuring whoever wants to take over the club going forward, is actually legit. Sounds reasonable doesn't it? Any delay is surely a sign of the protracted nature of things, and in all probability a bad sign I reckon

If that was true. why can't they issue some form of 'holding' reply?

Also, I get your logics up to ..... couldn't it also be a good sign?

No, I'm not related, have not met any officials, etc, etc......

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

loan_star wrote:

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

I could pinch Loughlins thunder here having seen what is due to go in the paper tomorrow.
Needless to say, you really need to get cracking with the supporters trust.

How exactly do YOU see what goes in tomorrows Echo?

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:51 pm

ElvisC wrote:

loan_star wrote:

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

I could pinch Loughlins thunder here having seen what is due to go in the paper tomorrow.
Needless to say, you really need to get cracking with the supporters trust.

How exactly do YOU see what goes in tomorrows Echo?

I have a tardis

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Chip Fireball wrote:

billythefisherman wrote:

So to repeat, the people who have owned the club for the last decade, have been and are safeguarding our future by ensuring whoever wants to take over the club going forward, is actually legit. Sounds reasonable doesn't it? Any delay is surely a sign of the protracted nature of things, and in all probability a bad sign I reckon

Seriously, just go away.

The facts have been reported on this board for weeks. If people choose not to believe them that's their prerogative.

There is no TMH takeover, and the so called Chairman isn't even allowed in the fucking ground.

If you want to stick your head in the sand go ahead knock yourself out. But please, for your own benefit, stop calling me stupid, you do yourself no favours whatsoever.

Read what I said, you seem to have a habit of not really taking in what people say. I have said nothing about any new owners, everything I've said is to give credit to the people still bankrolling the club.

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

And when did I call you stupid by the way?

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:

billythefisherman wrote:

So to repeat, the people who have owned the club for the last decade, have been and are safeguarding our future by ensuring whoever wants to take over the club going forward, is actually legit. Sounds reasonable doesn't it? Any delay is surely a sign of the protracted nature of things, and in all probability a bad sign I reckon

If that was true. why can't they issue some form of 'holding' reply?

Maybe if we have any solicitors on here, they could give you a better answer ...

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Chip Fireball wrote:

I have no particular gripe with the organ grinder, its the monkey that needs to go. If you think he has always done what's best for the club rather than what's best for him, then knock yourself out.

Funny though innit a couple of weeks after discovering theres a national newspaper digging around the club is suddenly sold to a bloke nobody has ever heard of with seemingly no real assets, the debt vanishes then Harris vanishes, then Hey Presto, everything magically returns to exactly like it was.

Remarkably loads of people are taken in by it.

I bet you believe Neil Armstrong never landed on the moon and that the twin towers was an inside job....

marcus richardsons third leg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 pm **Posts:** 446

ElvisC wrote:

loan_star wrote:

OddsOnPhil wrote:

They have failed the fit and proper person process. Heard this from a reliable source.

I could pinch Loughlins thunder here having seen what is due to go in the paper tomorrow.
Needless to say, you really need to get cracking with the supporters trust.

How exactly do YOU see what goes in tomorrows Echo?

Thought you were best mates with him

Seagull, Seagull, Seagull. · **Joined:** Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:44 pm **Posts:** 477

Please don't be bored of it... It's fucking hilarious! Keep going!!

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:33 pm

marcus richardsons third leg wrote:

ElvisC wrote:

How exactly do YOU see what goes in tomorrows Echo?

Thought you were best mates with him

Phil knows what I know. Mind you Loughlin doesn't like the fact that people outside his chosen circle also know! I could easily have posted a lot of detail of what is in the echo tomorrow but even though I think the bloke is a knob I wouldn't do that.

pooliebob · **Joined:** Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:01 pm **Posts:** 264

loan_star wrote:

marcus richardsons third leg wrote:

ElvisC wrote:

How exactly do YOU see what goes in tomorrows Echo?

Thought you were best mates with him

Phil knows what I know. Mind you Loughlin doesn't like the fact that people outside his chosen circle also know! I could easily have posted a lot of detail of what is in the echo tomorrow but even though I think the bloke is a knob I wouldn't do that.

And you wouldn't do that because......

aptid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:49 pm **Posts:** 1506

Wouldn't that really be

[ x ] Botched takeover

[ x ] IOR still paying the wages reluctantly?

[ x ] Harris missing, presumed dumped off the Steetley in concrete wellingtons

[ x ] Ken to come up smelling of roses but still looking for a buyer?

[ x ] Green Party discredited and dishonorably discharged?

[ x ] The Bunker credited

horden · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:08 pm

I should get the credit, I predicted this sort of scenario 6 or 7 years ago

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

loan_star wrote:

marcus richardsons third leg wrote:

ElvisC wrote:

How exactly do YOU see what goes in tomorrows Echo?

Thought you were best mates with him

Phil knows what I know. Mind you Loughlin doesn't like the fact that people outside his chosen circle also know! I could easily have posted a lot of detail of what is in the echo tomorrow but even though I think the bloke is a knob I wouldn't do that.

I'm a little surprised that somebody who works FOR Nick Loughlin sends his as yet unpublished stuff out to his mates? I'd sack him, but then again I'm a cu-nt.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

horden wrote:

I should get the credit, I predicted this sort of scenario 6 or 7 years ago

Why didn't you say?

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:14 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

I cannot possibly take any of the credit, you shall all have to buy the Northern Echo tomorrow to find out. It's reasonably priced and available at all good newsagents for a limited period only.

.....Does it have a topless page 3 model?

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:33 pm

ElvisC wrote:

I'm a little surprised that somebody who works FOR Nick Loughlin sends his as yet unpublished stuff out to his mates? I'd sack him, but then again I'm a cu-nt.

Who's to say Loughlin hasn't done the same to his colleagues?
Should you be relegated he might have to sack himself if his views on non league football still hold true. Would be a bit hypocritical of him to cover a team outside of the football league when he has always maintained that the Echo should only cover teams in the top four divisions.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

I've actually had that discussion with him!

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:52 pm

ElvisC wrote:

I've actually had that discussion with him!

Haha did he act like a politician and duck the question?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

To be fair didn't Darlo get exactly the same coverage in the conference (full match report and ratings) I'm fairly certain they did.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

They get really good coverage now considering the level they play at.

loan_star · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:06 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

To be fair didn't Darlo get exactly the same coverage in the conference (full match report and ratings) I'm fairly certain they did.

It was slightly reduced in the conference but Loughlin and one or two others there were trying their best to get them dropped down to a byline at best.
Had the Echo not pledged £10k towards the survival fund last time I'm pretty sure we would have had coverage dropped into the Northern League section and just a byline in the Evostik. The real winners out of it all though were Spennymoor who had their coverage increased as they are Darlo's main rivals now.

ElvisC wrote:

They get really good coverage now considering the level they play at.

Indeed we do, however that is down to certain people at the Echo making a stand against dropping coverage as explained above. You have to bear in mind too that the Echo sells the bulk of their papers in Darlington and the surrounding areas and only a handful in Hartlepool.

billythefisherman · **Joined:** Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:40 am **Posts:** 388

Chip Fireball wrote:

Cant imagine it will be anything we don't already know to be honest.

Say for example, the owners and chairman of a football club had been trying to offload their club to prospective new owners.
Although they had served the club well over the many years of their 'regime', and seen the club through its most successful period, things recently have gone tits up, and to cut a long story short, it was time to go. A move welcomed by most fans. Time for a change. Plenty, even on these pages, thanked the chairman for his tenure, for although things were sour right now, people still remembered the very many good times and recognized his contribution to the club...
Back to the here and now though... the prospective new buyers had come forward and all seemed well, the club was about to embark on a new chapter in its history, and the old chairman ( also a towns man and fan ) was ready to hand the reins over, stepping aside along with the clubs backers...
The 'new' chairman introduced himself to the fans, and promises of money to build a new team
All didn't seem quite right though, the routine checks had uncovered a myriad of 'holes' in the prospective new owners portfolio, solicitors and legal teams became involved in the quest to gleam whether the prospective new owners had the assets to fulfill the role they'd pursued...all the time nothing could be said to the fans due to the nature of the investigations and the delicacy of the matter in hand, much to the annoyance of the faithful :angry-screaming:

Throughout this period life at the club goes on as normal... until the old owners are 100% sure about the prospective owners they have to keep bank rolling the club and still have a tight rein on affairs...
The day comes when the club can announce the potential new owners didn't come up-to scratch...
The old chairman ploughs enough finance into the club to ensure it can continue till the end of the season in the hope new owners can be found...

I'd say the old chairman comes out smelling of roses, or at least daffodils rolf

Chrissy Stevo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:47 pm

billythefisherman wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

Cant imagine it will be anything we don't already know to be honest.

Say for example, the owners and chairman of a football club had been trying to offload their club to prospective new owners.
Although they had served the club well over the many years of their 'regime', and seen the club through its most successful period, things recently have gone tits up, and to cut a long story short, it was time to go. A move welcomed by most fans. Time for a change. Plenty, even on these pages, thanked the chairman for his tenure, for although things were sour right now, people still remembered the very many good times and recognized his contribution to the club...
Back to the here and now though... the prospective new buyers had come forward and all seemed well, the club was about to embark on a new chapter in its history, and the old chairman ( also a towns man and fan ) was ready to hand the reins over, stepping aside along with the clubs backers...
The 'new' chairman introduced himself to the fans, and promises of money to build a new team
All didn't seem quite right though, the routine checks had uncovered a myriad of 'holes' in the prospective new owners portfolio, solicitors and legal teams became involved in the quest to gleam whether the prospective new owners had the assets to fulfill the role they'd pursued...all the time nothing could be said to the fans due to the nature of the investigations and the delicacy of the matter in hand, much to the annoyance of the faithful :angry-screaming:

Throughout this period life at the club goes on as normal... until the old owners are 100% sure about the prospective owners they have to keep bank rolling the club and still have a tight rein on affairs...
The day comes when the club can announce the potential new owners didn't come up-to scratch...
The old chairman ploughs enough finance into the club to ensure it can continue till the end of the season in the hope new owners can be found...

I'd say the old chairman comes out smelling of roses, or at least daffodils rolf

A towns man and fan???

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Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:50 pm

Born in Newcastle and grew up in Leeds, deffo towns man and fan and not in any way a Newcastle fan obsessed with Alan Shearer.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:58 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

All stuff we've been saying for weeks. We told you IOR were still paying the wages in December and January, that they were the ones sanctioning the deals for players. We also told you from day one that the prospective new owners looked dodgy as fuck and listed their connections to people who had done bad things at football clubs.

We told you the takeover was fucked, we told you Harris had been told not to attend the game on Saturday and that staff had been told not to let him into the ground if he turned up.

We told you Pears had left the club last week, we even told you Sam Collins had his club car taken off him as a cost cutting exercise.

Everything pointed to the club being run by IOR, and we called them out on it last week.

When the Green minnions started circulating texts at the weekend saying the takeover was going fine and would be rubber stamped on Monday we took the piss because we knew it was utter horseshit.

Where were you during this period with your facts ? Fucking nowhere, but now the cat is out of the bag you turn up claiming you knew what was happening all along ?

Yeah of course you fucking did.

And of course the Chairman comes out smelling of roses, without spending a bean, that's sort of the whole fucking point isn't it ? Who do you think green lighted the stories you will be reading in your newspapers tomorrow ?

^^ this

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