So has anyone sussed out yet who the directors of this company are?

Just asking out of interest.

Russell John Green was appointed as a director on 22 December 2014 according to Companies House.

No other notifications (as yet).

It actually stands for Time Meatloaf Helped.

There might be nothing sinister in Russ being appointed the only director so far......

Shouldn't we give them time?

Pelters were being thrown at Russ and Ken when they were clearly negotiating with whoever TMH are - and during that period they had to keep quiet/ maintain confidences, etc....

And no.............I'm not related to GeoffcN, Russ, Ken, etc.

And aren't 'we' asking the wrong questions? As in, what was actually sold to this brand new company? As in, which company will actually receive the James and Baldwin cash? What did IOR sell?

Right, I'll get my coat and wave towards Dyke House on my way out of town,..............

Peter Harris owns all 300 shares in THM 2014 Ltd and is the only other Director.

Also Russ Green appointed as a director of Hartlepool United Football Club Ltd on 28/12/14. Guess I'd always presumed he was already a Director.

Geordie check out Companies House - company No. 09349144 - Russ was appointed as per form AP10.

It is there on the Government website, so, to quote one of the bunker big boys.....................FACT

Sorry Geordie - overlooked the word 'other'.......

Isn't the fact that these rich investors have only subscribed to £300 of share capital interesting?

So Russ is one of the new owners? Alongside Peter Harris? Crikey....

As Geordie says, according to what is currently publicly available information, Harris owns all of the shares.

The £300 of share capital doesn't necessarily mean anything. TMH 2014 is a Newco set up to do the deal - to be honest I'd expect £1 of share capital in most cases. Peter Harris (and other investors if there are any) could then loan TMH money to make it's investment in HUFC, or subscribe to more shares. The Companies House info doesn't really tell us anything other than who the Directors are and who owns the shares (or owned at the time of incorporating the company).

Only other thing I can find is that Peter Harris is a Director of two other companies. Phoebus (Banbury) Ltd and Phoebus Entertainment Ltd.

The first of those two appears to be a nightclub in Banbury.

The second is owned by TMH 2014 and looks like it previously had something to do with selling solar panels.

None of which seems to be linked to IOR or give us any clue as to who the new owners are!

No he doesn't. As Dribble keeps referring to, I have some - as do other Bunker members if they aren't afraid to admit it!

So basically it's all dodgy as fuck and none if them will talk?

Fucking hell, proof if it was needed that some people just dont read whats written.

Unless Geoffrey you have shares in TMH 2014 Ltd?

http://www.phoebusfsl.com/about-us.html


Phoebus funding solutions. Tonna/Murrall/Harris.

Exactly the conclusion I came to a month ago. Dibble claims its the CIA.

To be fair I thought this was out in the open when TMH were first announced as the owners?

Has the takeover been rubber stamped by the powers that be yet?

Chip wouldn't rubber stamp such a move

Indeed it was, but some folk on here just love to go round and round in circles.

That said, a small question for Messrs Tonna, Murral and Harris

WHEN ARE WE GONNA SIGN SOME FUCKIN PLAYERS???

There wont be any decent signings weve already paid our admission money in advance.

No doubt when the season ticket renewals are due we will be promised the quality signings to bounce straight back up.

It was pretty much all anyone could/can find out. Solar panels, investors and nightclub owners. The forest green chairman made a fair bit on green energy and has invested in them a lot.

Tonna and Murrall are business partners of Harris in Phoebus Funding Solutions Ltd.

It might be pure coincidence that the surnames of the 3 partners of that company start with a T an M and an H, or it might not.

Phoebus are investment specialists and claim to have just secured major inward investment to Malta - a figure of £500 million is mentioned.

I think there's a balance of probability that suggests that it's more likely that Harris has got involved in fronting up TMH 2014 Ltd as chairman through his activities with Phoebus than as a nightclub owner in Banbury, but I could be wrong.

Not disputing the FACT that Harris and Green are the only named directors of TMH, but I was agreeing with Mr Boatie that somebody on here posted a link to Phoebus Funding Ltd a couple of weeks ago.

It looks pertinent to me - you're welcome to disagree.

Never mind that, has anybody clocked that Annie Hutsby who runs their office???

That's why I remembered the link...

haha - aye she's cracking!!

I don't know anymore than you can find via Companies House and other publically available info but a couple of thoughts.

If I was Tomma or Murral I wouldn't necessarily want to invest in something where I wasn't a director or a shareholder and therefore don't have any control over decision making. Could be that more shares have been issued since or investment made via another means which somehow gives them control - but on the face of it they don't appear to be.

Looking at the Phoebus Funding Website - all I could deduce they really do is offer meeting rooms in Mourton on the Marsh! The talk of securing investment is Malta is pretty wishy washy (great phrase!) - it doesn't sound like it's their money the £500m.

Also looking at company records for Phoebus Funding - there's no active accounts with a P&L to look at. So either their income in that business is routed elsewhere or it's really not very big - which makes sense as there's only 4 of them - an office manager and the 3 blokes named.

Doing Director searches on them - there's not a whole host of other income generating businesses that they're Directors of (either now or in the past) - like you would expect if the were Venture Capital type investors, as they would typically be taking a place on the Board. They don't appear to have long and established track records that give me confidence that they're loaded or successful.

Oh and that Murral is linked to nightclubs too I think - Touch Bar or something. Basically we've got a couple of former doormen running the club - that's what it must all mean!!!!!!!

Who knows what the truth is but that's my thoughts.

Another thing i think is that you could probably get someone like Matt Tubbs here on say £2k a week for 2 years - that's only £200k to fund if the new owners were going to invest in order to achieve objective #1 of staying up. 5 players of a similar calibre is £1m and probably the sort of money we may have thought was going to be invested (between £500k and £1m in my head) when we first heard of takeover.

I never imagined that they were venture capitalists - I've got nicer offices myself and I'm worth fuck all.

But if they are investment brokers of any description they will have come into contact with people who do have money. Harris is fronting up for someone - could even be Birger Larsen!

As for Matt Tubbs - he's a Wiltshire lad, his family's down there and he's just moved from one club on the South Coast to another. He probably thought Wimbledon was a bit too far North!

Tubbs is a bad example then - but someone like that - and maybe it would have to be £3k per week - but general point is that money talks and you could attract people if you had the funds to invest I would have thought.

As has been said no here a lot - all we're hearing now is that it's hard to attract people and they're all going to be loans. Which is different to the initial statements that were made by new owners. Longer it goes on, lower the chances are of survival (if there are any!).

Really disappointing given the initial optimism when the takeover was announced. Would love them to prove me wrong like!

FFS! of course its going to be difficult to sign anyone decent. Hartlepool United is the worst team in the football league and are nigh on certain of relegation. Not much of a sell is it!

My neighbour plays for Southend. He came through the ranks at Spurs but dropped through the leagues and now plays in L2. Some of the people that were with him at Spurs now play Conference or lower as they can earn more doing that and also having a part time job like cabbing. To them it's a job and a wage and they earn more that way. As a fan I find it hard to look at it in terms of a job, but that's what it is. I don't disagree that our league position will make it harder, and if you had the choice of two or three clubs who were offering the same you'd go for the highest league position club, but if funds were there I would think you could offer a good wage and security of a two year deal and attract people. It would obviously be a gamble as we could still go down and have to fund the wages.

attracting players , especially ones with families is all about security, we could get players in if we offered decent contracts.i,m sure a player like Raynes would play in the conference ESPECIALLY if we offered him a 2 year contract, if Moore thinks a player like Raynes is good enough to play in league 2 and try to fight for survival surely we could offer a 3 year contract even but not top wages and he could help for promotion from the conference.

Was he there same time as Di Canio? If so he got the players in required and worried about the consequences later ie: transfer embargo. Would be nice if he did that here but like you say, nothing to prove he's involved.

And if they do come let's not forget Green was given the task of finding new owners etc and chose these people.

If we go under I know who il blame.

Regardless of what their intentions are and whether they are corrupt or not the most damning thing about it all is the very fact we are all guessing as to who and what they are. Ffs, Russ has been involved with the club for how long?? Surely to fuck he saw the same uncertainty towards IOR from the fans and must have learnt that it would stop an awful lot of rumours and speculation by being open about things. We SHOULD be told who they are. We DO have a right to be told. The club men on here will probably say its their business and nowt to do with us. It bloody is though.

They will appear once Russ has read your post and let them out of their cages.

I'd do a link to Mr Burns letting them out of a cage in his office but I can't do links on YouTube.

OK so I'm an idiot for not knowing everything about a Swindon Town's financial history. Once again one of the bunkers keyboard warriors calls someone a name!

why can't you ? we need fucking answers

Never works for me

Peter Ridsdale got through the test a few times despite leaving a mess behind wherever he went.

Have to wonder what the test entails when you get the likes of him and Vincent Tan

Is that the chinky at Cardiff?

uh-oh

George Reynolds passed it and he had previous for robbery.

Club man reporting for duty Mr Fireball Sir.
You may be surprised that I actually agree with most of what you said.
However although pleased to see the departure of IOR who had clearly run out of interest and probably money, I was cautions about the new owners. Cautiously optimistic maybe but certainly not enjoying the "wankfest" as you so politely put it. They have made promises and we need to see these being kept. Who are they and why Hartlepool are questions no one seems to have had any answers to. Hopefully answers will be forthcoming.

Secondly although Russ Green looks as if he has been made a Director of the new company he is certainly not the owner.

I am an optimistic sort of chap, and my glass is usually half full (surprise) whereas many on here seem to come about this from a more pessimistic stand point.

The situation at the club is critical, things need to change and quickly if we are to survive in League 2. The new owners have only been in control a very short while. I am prepared to give them a chance to show their intentions - whether that will ultimately result in relegation or not. It may do given the current situation. The coming weeks/months will show us whether they have the club at heart - or not. Let's get behind them for the time being at least.

That is where I disagree. Why make yourself look daft by getting behind someone or something you know nothing at all about? I would rather call them out, constantly, until I know for a fact who they are

For me they can fuck off.

There I have said it

I will get behind them when I know who the fuck they are And what their intentions are for the long term of this club

They have stated neither

And they have been here a month. How long does it take to prepare a statement as simple as that?

TMH Out - bring out the tennis balls on Saturday chaps!
OK so I am daft - they have been here a month and I am still giving them a chance!

I'm with MadGeoff on this one. After a month you can hardly judge them

The owners said they where going to provide funds for ronnie.
Theve done a massive u turn otherwise we wouldnt be looking at cowdenbeath rejects about the same standard of the wearside league.
Maybe we cut to far adrift and they waiting till may june to release the so called funds to take us straight back up.

Where the promised funds just a gimmick to get xtra fans in over xmas because the next two games wont get 4000 thats for sure.

As it stands now everything is speculation but if they dont show the ambition ti bring better quality players in the conference north is a
nailed on certanty.