Prices up / on the day tickets the same

alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 3:55 pm

The more I think about this pricing thing the more I'm tempted to not buy a season ticket and instead watch football on TV and maybe a handful of away or premier league games for a different experience.

The reasons for this are:

I won't miss the entertainment of Pools based on the last two years.
The matchday experience once in the ground never improves, half time catering doesn't plan for half time and the pricing of everything that isn't booze is too high.

But mainly because I feel I'm being forced into the decision to buy a season ticket if I want to watch more than 10 games next season.

IMO a season ticket should give anyone who can/wants to a saving for commiting up front, but the other prices shouldn't deter casual or long term fans who want to watch a handful of games but who simply can't won't commit to which ones.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Can't believe this is sill going.

Fuck me out the 92 football league clubs you would struggle to find a cheaper one yet people still moan.

Pools still have the option of changing the match day price, it isn't set in stone why can't some understand that.

alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 4:33 pm

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Can't believe this is sill going.

Fuck me out the 92 football league clubs you would struggle to find a cheaper one yet people still moan.

Pools still have the option of changing the match day price, it isn't set in stone why can't some understand that.

Cheaper season tickets are hard to find.

The club are forcing people to buy season tickets even if they do change their mind on pricing later.

How hard is that to understand?

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

How are they forcing anyone??

Its completely your own decision. Get it cheap or don't.

How hard is that to understand

If your a pools fan its a no brainier really.

£20 to watch the team you support in 2014 isn't even expensive anyways. We're not in the 80s anymore. We live on a world were a 10p mix up only has 5sweets an a packet of chudy is 50p and a pint is £3. £20 is a fairly normal fee to expect to pay to watch professional football.

alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 5:01 pm

£20 is acceptable to watch a team that was relegated last year and finished 3 points from safety this season?

I might not be a Pools fan if I can't see this being a no brainier. £180 is cheap, but what if I discover I can only make 6 games once the fixtures are out or I change jobs after the deadline has passed?

Paying up front means Pools have to do nothing to improve the spectacle on offer for fans as long as 3000 willing sheep stump up blindly based on nothing but being fans.

I'd rather not be a fan if I need to show blind faith to prove it.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Serious question would you attend if we were bottom of the league??

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

I think they may get a shock this time patience is wearing thin with "these fantastic" offers..

There's enough leverage at @ £15/£20 for people who can attend 10 plus games to buy the early bird ticket anyway ..

Whats plan B if people decide they've had enough of the mediocrity?..

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Serious question would you attend if we were bottom of the league??

We where heading for the bottom when 5000 turned up against Morecombe.. Wonder why they did .. and know its seems like a stupid question but how many do think wouldve turned up at £20/£25 a pop :angry-screaming:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Il wait to see who we buy/release/retain before deciding. 24 years of interest starting to wain.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Pools still have the option of changing the match day price, it isn't set in stone why can't some understand that.

So is that a fact or just a hunch.......? They also have the option of dessing the stewards up as beefeaters in flippers...but it's just an option.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

MadJohn wrote:

I'd be surprised if Pools made any reduction from the announced prices unless we find ourselves in similar circumstances to this season and need points from our last couple of home games.

That's the only 'option' I see too....which in my eyes is no option.

alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 5:48 pm

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Serious question would you attend if we were bottom of the league??

Hard to answer without context, my heart says yes but my head says it would depend on the fight in the side.

The two seasons prior to this one were poor, this one started bad, picked up a bit but then the side looked awful again.

If the club are pro-active in the transfer market, act quickly to sort out of contract players who are staying, find an experienced coach to work with Cooper, and don't let our best players go for peanuts then maybe I'll feel different but at the moment going to the football doesn't matter to me and I don't feel any real emotional connection to the club.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I love how people say this £180 season ticket is cheap, compared to what? Cheap to who?

2/3 of the towns on the rock n roll, ask them if it's cheap.

The footy the last 2 years has most of the time been shite, the season tickets not cheap to watch that

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Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Cheap compared to the rest of football league

If ya on the bones of your arse then pools obviously isn't a priority

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I paid full whack in once last season.

I felt sick.

But I am now a very honourable member of the FWE

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grabec · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 7:02 pm

alienlife wrote:

[If the club are pro-active in the transfer market, act quickly to sort out of contract players who are staying, find an experienced coach to work with Cooper, and don't let our best players go for peanuts then maybe I'll feel different but at the moment going to the football doesn't matter to me and I don't feel any real emotional connection to the club.

Me too. But they won't believe you/us until we actually call their bluff on this.

Now that I've become more or less detached from the old 'emotional connection', I'm quite interested to see how long they can get people to fall for their perennial ST / 'your club' ruse, and what they'll do if/when people defect.

It's a bit like New Labour continuing to attract Old Labour supporters, when you think about it. People sort of know what's happening, but still go along with it all.

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

I think it's funny when folk say we should aim at attracting the Boro, Sunderland and Newcastle fans with a 5 quid ticket.
It doesn't matter that these same fans will happily pump 20,30 or 40 quid a game into their own team.
We'll give em a ticket for nowt in the hope they'll buy a hot dog and a beer on the day.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

Who said give them a £5ticket....

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

No one is holding up £5 per game as the price the solution but maybe reducing both by £5 to £15/£20 is..

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

Reducing the price by a fiver won't get you the extra 1500 through the gate.
And it definitely won't tempt fans from the regions bigger clubs.

grabec · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 7:25 pm

I'm losing touch with reality here....

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

If ya on the bones of your arse then pools obviously isn't a priority

You don't just turn off your love for a club you supported all your life because your on the dole...... no way can you afford a 'cheap' season ticket, but it's nice to manage the odd match to keep in touch...... if only.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

klinger wrote:

Reducing the price by a fiver won't get you the extra 1500 through the gate.
And it definitely won't tempt fans from the regions bigger clubs.

Knock a fiver off...?....NO....knock a tenner off.

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

No one can make up the shit that's come out on this thread.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

klinger wrote:

No one can make up the shit that's come out on this thread.

Well you've been shovelling it on with a JCB. :laugh:

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

Snowy wrote:

klinger wrote:

Reducing the price by a fiver won't get you the extra 1500 through the gate.
And it definitely won't tempt fans from the regions bigger clubs.

Knock a fiver off...?....NO....knock a tenner off.

Offshorepoolie said a fiver and you say ten.
On the off chance that Ken is tuned in, what's it to be?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Can we have a forum just for season ticket holders to talk?

No pay on the day riff raff

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alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 7:46 pm

One day I'm going to get a tickle belly and join the buying 2 tickets for each game to support Russ elite.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Threads like this make you want to rip your eye balls out.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Yes STE only so glad I'm binning the season ticket off this year . Never thought my club would be supported by such pretentious gits who's lives revolve around lying on their backs getting tickled by the hierarchy ..

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Apart from Klinger and Geoff who think we all should pay £180 no matter how many times we go..

alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 8:09 pm

If the budget allows them to offer season tickets at £180 I don't see why the same financial forecast can't be used for £15 per game.

This means the club win if just over 50% of this years buyers show up.

Added to this 5-6000 in the ground doesn't create as much atmosphere as a team that doesn't know when it is beaten will.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

Once upon a time in cosy world everyone was so happy becausr it was the day of the season ticket offer. Gee and Kay were so excited as this was the day the season tickets finally appeared along with a pat on the head for being such good boys. They were so proud but there was s dark cloud on their horizon. There were rumours of sightings of the dreaded floating fans and the beastly 'can't afforders' causing trouble by grumblng, chuntering and being real bad eggs in Kentown.
G and K couldn't understand why they couldn't just be happy like them, cough up their piggybanks and buy a season ticket just like what they did. In fact they thought these oiks should be made to buy one or be banned....if you want to be part of the gang you have to have season ticket.......

.....and they all lived unhappily ever after.

GeoffN · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 8:41 pm

You really couldn't make this up! Probably the cheapest (overall) prices in the Football League and there is this huge debate with some even saying they might stop going let alone buy a season ticket.

And it all seems to revolve around reducing the on the day admission by £5 from the buy in advance cost of £20.

It could only happen in Hartlepool! Quite unbelievable.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

NO ONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SEASON TICKET PRICES.

THE PAY ON THE DAY PTICE IS TOO MUCH

THE END

GeoffN · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 8:58 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

GeoffN wrote:

You really couldn't make this up! Probably the cheapest (overall) prices in the Football League and there is this huge debate with some even saying they might stop going let alone buy a season ticket.

And it all seems to revolve around reducing the on the day admission by £5 from the buy in advance cost of £20.

It could only happen in Hartlepool! Quite unbelievable.

Is there not a grown up in your house who could read the thread for you and then try and explain it all back to you ?

Joint cheapest in the league IF YOU BUY A SEASON TICKET AND GO TO EVERY GAME, but THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE LEAGUE if you just turn up on the day and pay on the gate.

Jesus Fucking Wept , its not fucking rocket science is it ?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22666

I was talking to a bloke called Warburton today. This fella owns a bakery and makes a reasonable standard of bread. I suggested to him that he should charge everyone £1 who buys a loaf from him a couple of times a week and those who only want one occasionally should pay a fiver.

After considering my suggestion he called me a twat and told me that no one in their right mind would pay a fiver for his admittedly excellent bread and anyone who suggested charging so far over the odds for their products would eventually go out of business.

He also said that calling them a 'businessman' when they seem to have no commercial sense is just daft.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

This thread is fucking hilarious as well.

Never has such a simple point made by so many been so ridiculosly misunderstood by a few.

So lets see if I can make this even simpler.

I am not buying a season ticket as I will be elsewhere most of the time watching either my lad at uni or my youngun.

I am not paying £20 to watch division 4 football.

I consider myself to be a poolie that xant go much so more than a floater.

There. Is that simple enough.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Your raf rif now dibble, your not wanted in he offs club

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Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Even simpler ...

Season ticket = good

Pay on day = bad

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alienlife · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 10:02 pm

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

I consider myself to be a floater.

You realise this thread was artificially created just so I could misquote you there don't you?

yloop · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 10:38 pm

Yubep wrote:

Even simpler ...

Season ticket = good

Pay on day = bad

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Jonny · **Posted:** Sun May 04, 2014 11:13 pm

I'd like to see Pools announce a pay on the day price of £10. I will be getting a season ticket anyway but as it stands it the moment it is virtually impossible to convince anyone to go to Pools with the prices as they stand.

If Pools were to reduce on the day prices significantly it would be stupid to make such an announcement before the season ticket deadline is over. Cashing in on away fans hasn't worked, the on the day prices need to be less....

parmo · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2014 7:54 am

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

I was talking to a bloke called Warburton today. This fella owns a bakery and makes a reasonable standard of bread. I suggested to him that he should charge everyone £1 who buys a loaf from him a couple of times a week and those who only want one occasionally should pay a fiver.

After considering my suggestion he called me a twat and told me that no one in their right mind would pay a fiver for his admittedly excellent bread and anyone who suggested charging so far over the odds for their products would eventually go out of business.

He also said that calling them a 'businessman' when they seem to have no commercial sense is just daft.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

Season tickets as we knew them always gave a marginal saving over paying on the gate...... so even if we charged £15 on the gate, those who paid on the gate would still be paying a substantial penalty for the privilege of watching Pools compared to season ticket holders.
If ever there was a blueprint for alienating everyone but season ticket holders this wins by a country mile.
The maths........season ticket holder= £180.

Pay on the gate=£575

No further comment needed.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2014 8:47 am

Jonny wrote:

I'd like to see Pools announce a pay on the day price of £10. I will be getting a season ticket anyway but as it stands it the moment it is virtually impossible to convince anyone to go to Pools with the prices as they stand.

If Pools were to reduce on the day prices significantly it would be stupid to make such an announcement before the season ticket deadline is over. Cashing in on away fans hasn't worked, the on the day prices need to be less....

That not going to happen. £15

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

23 x15 = £345 (standing) 23x20=£460 (sitting). STE contribution £180... The 15/20 pay on the day option does make so much sense ..

You can even the £5 differential for sitting standing can apply if you want ..

Even Russ says we only get about 30 full paying punters (inthe home end) through the game on a normally priced match day..

Oh why I'm on about why is the STE pay the same whether they sit or stand (an actual throw back to original £100 tickets)...Its different for the match day payers so why isn't it for the STE??
Surely the club is missing out on a further revenue stream there ( and an I've paid more than you for my season ticket elite too)..

Come on Pools do the right thing for the clubs finances and the grounds atmosphere..

Jonny · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2014 10:09 am

Fetish_Bob wrote:

Jonny wrote:

I'd like to see Pools announce a pay on the day price of £10. I will be getting a season ticket anyway but as it stands it the moment it is virtually impossible to convince anyone to go to Pools with the prices as they stand.

If Pools were to reduce on the day prices significantly it would be stupid to make such an announcement before the season ticket deadline is over. Cashing in on away fans hasn't worked, the on the day prices need to be less....

That not going to happen. £15

It probably isn't but it should. We are near the bottom of the fourth division and some people won't pay £15 to go casually. £10 is a fair price and it would also stop people from selling tickets on which was pissing off the club.

If the price is affordable then people will turn up especially if we can get a bit of momentum.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Chip Fireball wrote:

I remember when I first met Dibble, was in the good old days when the club was on the up and we all went in the Family Enclosure with our kids. There was none of this elite horseshit, just 4500-5000 people going to watch a good team play good football.

It was what ...£18 a pop or something, but really cheap for kids, and you were getting value for money because it was a cracking day out and we had some really good players. We used to get there 20-25 minutes before kick off just to see Drummond in the Hangus gear and to enjoy all the build up. Seriously, it was the highlight of the weekend.

Yesterday I got there just as they kicked off and by half time I was regretting not fetching a book to read in the second half. No word of a lie I'm nearly of pension age and I could have stuck a strip on at half time and gone out and played for Pools second half and I wouldn't have looked out of place.

I dunno how we get even remotely back to where we were before in terms of creating a buzz about the place, but I do know that second half against Morecambe was one of the few times its happened in the last 3 or 4 years.

I also know its very hard to create a real buzz when there's less than 3,000 home fans there and a lot of them have turned up because they have forked out for a season ticket and feel like they have to.

We need to have a decent side with exciting players for sure, but we also need to stop putting obstacles in the path of people wanting to turn up and support the team as and when they can or feel like it. People trying to explore ways this can be achieved are in my opinion of more value to the club than those who simply say I got my season ticket so fuck everyone else. Regardless of the fact they go to a hotel once a season with a load of other men and wear costumes and make up.

Agree 100% about the season ticket; I will keep buying one but it will only ever help to fill the ground if Pools are playing decent football on a regular basis. STHs won't waste their afternoons when the home form is the kind of dross it has been for most of the last 3 seasons. Then again, I'm convinced that most of the miserable fuckers who only seem to turn up to tell each other how shit it is and slag off their own players wouldn't be there if they had to pay decent wedge to get in.

It might be harder to get a real positive buzz going with only 2000 - 3000 in the ground but I remember it happening plenty of times when we had battlers in the side who knew how to respond to some passion from the fans. The novelty about the Morecombe game was seeing the current team galvanized into action in a losing situation for once.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22666

There is a downside to the cheap season tickets; at a fiver a game its no great shakes to give the odd one a miss without feeling that you've chucked money away.

Either way, in order to attract the more casual fans, pay as you go should be affordable. Certainly not 320% higher than the STE. Most reasonable people don't mind paying for stuff but absolutely everyone hates being ripped off.

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