I'd be reluctant to part with any cash to become a member before I'd formed the SIOLWDIOE (see if our lass will drop it off elite) and shortly after SAE (Sworn at elite)

And in a nutshell this is why Pools prices are so stupid. Yes they have reduced them to £5 a game last two games but they arnt going to do this every week are they. Get them at £15 flat rate.

Last time we where in this division I remember kids for a quid etc

I would take a spare one for free, but I wouldn't buy one off someone out of principle.

He was not just looking after his own pocket was he was saying the anyone who didn't just think about their own pocket was a "thickett"

.......price of everything and the value of nothing springs to mind.

Why don't they just catergorise games? Category A for teams that are likely to bring a decent following £20/£10 .. Category B for teams that are only going to bring a handful of fans £15/£5

It doesn't need the complexity of categories etc. Just one acceptable flat rate and that's it.

As others have said they may well reduce them all once people have season tickets etc and all this banging of gums will be pointless.

They want money up front etc I guess for budgets etc. If they said it's just £15 in a game now then their budget is affected etc.

Sorry if I offended anyone with my thickett comment but it just annoys me that Pools cant see the wood for the trees and the have RG bang his fat gums about people buying tickets on black market. It doesnt take a genius that if you cut out the demand then this problem will stop.

It will also have the benefit of attracting more people and away fans and thats the value of it to the club. People as Pubey says cant afford this outlay if having a family now. You say the price of everything and vlaue of nothing but thats the point Pools with these prices isnt value and people will spend their cash elswhere based on price or indeed go somewhere or someone who is selling the same product for a cheaper price.

Not not as if Pools are a little old man running his corner shop and you going to tesco to buy a tin of beans at 40p isnt of him at 50p it harming his living. As long as KH and RG dont wise up to the problem and treat fans like adults not banging on about FFP and charging well over the odds for crap football it will continue.

Some great points well made on this thread, but I DO wish people would stop the comparisons with "other businesses" (Tesco etc..)

Football is NOT like other businesses. Loyalty to a Football Club is nothing like which brand of beans you buy, it's a different thing altogether man!

I agree the price of the match day ticket needs looking at. I would say more so for away supporters than home fans. I think people over estimate the floating fan, people are too lazy or are warped by the premier league to bother no matter what the cost. It works for a one off game and was a great idea. I still think a tenner is too much for most people unless we were top of the league.

Yeah I agree with that Phil but I was addressing the point that was indicating that if people purchase a ticket from Pools for £25 instead of a £10 they are in some way a "better" fan with "interest of club at heart". I was using the point that after all the loyalty (the person buying a ticket has already made a decision to go as a customer) they people look at price and if your a bloke trying to justify to his missus going to the footy and spending money to do so a £10 or £15 is a lot easier to swing than £25 and then with a few beers or pie etc on top.

The 25 bar thing is a red herring anyway. It's 20 as mentioned elsewhere, which is roughly the going rate at most clubs. The away fans thing is also puzzling. Why shouldn't we make a few quid on fans who'd be coming anyway? Gum-bashing where none is required.

Its not £20 at all thats if you pay in advance but everyone doesnt decide to go to the footy on a Monday afternoon for the following Saturday.

Away fans are put off by the £25 and also travel to get here.

£20 is still too much when people are paying £7 a game. Also anyone walking up on the day, the punters you attract when things are going well still have to pay as high as £25.

The only problem is there is no terrace for away fans..

As is being said £15 for all full tickets is a "clever" solution to the problem .. ATM it looks like the saving of £240 is massive ...

Even at £15 the saving is £135 quite good over the season and should be enough leverage for those who want to buy a season ticket..

If they want to look at the attendances they must see it makes sense to LOWER the on the day prices..

It's like the club are saying be a season ticket holder or fuck off.

You'd have thought with the positive reaction to £5 tickets the club would realise we have a lot of floating fans who will attend when either the price is right or the on field issues mean they'll turn up (relegation or promotion happening).

Sunderland charge £25 for most games and that's premiership... £25 at League 2 is mental.

I think those paying £25 on the gate should receive a free gift. The pink strip possibly??

If they are happy paying £25 then they probably wont give two shits about wearing one.

You get the impression they think people go to Pools so they buy a discounted seaon ticket and that's it . No thought given to people whose circumstances don't allow them to attend every match because of work commitments or can afford even a discounted season ticket, so paying on the gate is out of the question.
I know people who are lifelong fans who are now excluded....and yes Pools cannot be compared to other business's, but it appears like any other business when you can't afford the price your loyalty counts for nowt.

I think that Pools should make every season ticket have the holders photo in it and if you don't have the book and match the photo then you don't get in.

I think a fan of another club would read this thread and be a bit puzzled.

Pools are offering the cheapest season tickets in the league for yet another year, which should be reason for us all to be happy.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we see a lot more one-off special prices for pay on the day, but it would be daft to announce this when they want to sell as many season tickets as possible. I reckon Pools are well aware of the black market for tickets and don't care as they will get revenue from food and drink from the people who buy them.

If the dont care why was RG banging on about it at the fans forum? He was going loopy over a burger van parked outside so them potentially loosing £25 a match it a big deal to him and KH. Why cant they just stop being idiots and I think that charging £15 a match isnt going to harm season ticket sales at all when it works out half the price to buy one.

If Pools do well and we are pushing for promotion next year how many games do you recon will be special offer, I recon the sum total of fuck all.

All they need to do is insist that the season ticket is torn out of the book by the lad/lass on the turnstile and they don't. They have to be seen to be bothered by things, even if they aren't.

Lets have a close look at the maths if you buy a season ticket and use it every game you save £240 (working on the £20 ticket even more on the £25 one!) or to put it another way 75% on the pay on the day rates..

That's a tremendous discount in anyone's book...

I know they want to use this for leverage to get people to buy the season tickets but surely if they reduced the pay on the day price to £15 giving a 42% saving with a season ticket it would ample to promote the benefits of a season ticket and it would encourage more to turn up on spec thus increasing profits..

Lets face it the disparity between the two was never that great until the £100 season ticket offer..

The prices on the day are putting people off they need to be reduced to get the Vic bouncing again .. Its been proved..

I think you're on a wind up ..

Cheap season tickets for adults (probably cheapest in the country - I paid £9.50 to go to Darlow v Ramsbottom in the Evo Stik North this week ......supporting The Rams obv)
Cheaper season tickets for under 60's (not 65 like some clubs)
Cheap student tickets.
Kids tickets almost for nothing.

Interest free options.
Extended period to buy - still at a much reduced rate.

AND still the moaners are out.

If you are going to more than 7 games get a ticket.
If not, pay on the gate - buy in advance and £20 is still less than most. Yes I know it means going to get it, but why not phone and pick up on the day! There will no doubt be "offers" during the season as well.

We want more players, we want better players, but some people don't seem to realise that this costs money. Jesus if the tickets were free some would still grumble.

This ^

As a supposed moaner I want the club to do the best it possibly can and if we can attract more pay on the day customers our revenue increases and we can afford better players. The pay on the gate take up in recent seasons at these prices has been minimal every away team we play you find a thread with people saying charging £25 is a disgrace and they aren't coming.

It's an area we are shooting ourselves in the foot in and need to get smarter about. The true acid test will come if we are doing well.

No, the people who don't , can't or won't buy a season ticket are out trying to suggest a way of improving the revenue at the club .. The disparity between the two is ridiculous (75% for crying out loud) and is costing the club money .. If you think it isn't those rose coloured glasses must be a lot more thicker than I thought..

As for the interest free option I make paying £200 for a £180 ticket interest of 9% .. maths is obviously not your strong point Geoff..

For any season ticket elite enquiries please contact Geoff n.

The season ticket offer is great for people like him who can pour scorn on those little pay on the day wankers who turn up n have to pay £20... Or don't.

You'd have a point Geoff if we were selling 3 thousand season tickets n 1 thousand where paying on the day but their not.


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Do people check prices of away tickets before they travel?
I've been to plenty of away games and have never checked the cost before I went.

Geoffs post is one of the worst I have ever read on here. Does someone at the club give blow jobs for this or something?

Agree entirely with Chip.

The point I was trying to make with away ticket prices was that when we were in league 1, most of the teams had similar prices on the day. It generated some decent income from teams who would sell out anyway and didn't detract to much from the walk ups for the pools end. I didn't agree with this at the time as it leaves a bad taste and I wouldn't visit a team who were giving away season tickets for nothing and charging a 1/4 of the cost of a season ticket as a match day price. I know fans of many clubs who are proper football fans and they raised it with me. The defence of oh other clubs do it to us fuck em' is not the answer in my mind.

Now it is putting off people from both ends and needs looking at.

How much is a Sky package that includes EPL every month these days? My mate with the pub was paying 500 snots ((c) Salty) for his pub. How much for a domestic?

Whys that even relevant?

Another poster wanting a tickled belly off pools, don't think they deliver to china sorry


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I was wondering if people, the 'floating supporters,' were staying away because they were watching other footy on telly and wanted to know what it costs, so I could compare it to the cost of actually turning up to watch a live game.

You said you can take your kids swimming for 25 bar. That was a bit of an insight and ta for that.

It was a completely innocent question but, as usual, you want to turn into a bitch fight.

Can anyone sane give me an answer??

Headlander??

yeah if your taking a family of 4 then its going to be a consideration.
Do you think if the Morcombe game was reduced by a tenner to £15 more away fans would have travelled than if it was was kept at £25. Maybe but I wouldnt have thought by much.
The biggest factor for me in travelling to away games is how well the team are playing and if there's a half decent chance I'll see a a good game.
I've been to more away games this season than in any in the last 5, because the team were playing well and there was a good chance of getting a result.

Apparently if you have a good internetwebby connection you can buy a dodgy box and get Murdochs TV for next to nowt..(or so bob said....)

I pay just over £20 a month for murdoch vision.

Season ticket price is good but like many I'd have liked to see the pay on the gate price dropped. As it stands I'll probably buy a ST but had it gone to £15 on the gate I would likely have just took that option, its still a wait for me because I'm falling out of love with the routine of going to the match every other week.

Russ admitted in the first fans forum the £25 was a bit daft, said they get less than 30 pay on he day admissions. Stupid they've done nothing about it.

Fair play on the £180 though, hopefully we'll sell a few.

And there folks is the probable reason for the pricing policy.

Not saying that I agree with it, but it is probably a deliberate ploy to encourage season ticket sales and cash up front.

Yup.

Hence I'm not going to make a big noise about it. I just might miss a few games as this season I've dodged other things for football and I do think there is probably more to life.

Its a business and being positive the club are at least doing something that benefits its core support much more than the floaters. Which is worthy of praise when you think a significant number of £180 punters would have been willing to stump up @ £300.

And it's hard enough as it is getting away fans up here in the 'Arctic Circle'!!!!

Ahhhh Mr Chip I should have known. Resorting to abuse and insult yet again. Of course we know you are always right so should learn not to try and contradict you. However, having taken my head out of Mr Green's posterior, here go's.
You are always telling people to read posts correctly. If you read mine correctly - which you clearly did not do - I have not specifically accused anyone of moaning about the price of the season tickets.
If you charge £25 for "on the gate" purchases then attending 7 games would leave you £5 worse off after buying a season ticket. However the ticket guarantees your seat or first take up of cup tickets so is still the better option.
Thirdly if "pay on the gate"" was made £15 for example, then I suspect we would sell far fewer season tickets as someone on here has already eluded to! The fact that the differential between season ticket and pay in the gate is so great has to be a huge incentive to those just thinking about buying one.
Finally, I did mention that there were likely to be "offers" on match day prices as there have been this season, including £5 entry for the last two games!

There we are, no insults, no abuse, just my considered views. Thank You!

I have to say that I do feel the pricing has been set so my hand is forced down the ST route. Which is almost acceptable as I have a job and can find £180, and while I appreciate that the club have offered an (almost) interest free option the truth for a number of people who want to see pools play is that £180 is a large sum of money and that committing to a finance agreement may not be realistic.

So regardless of what the club men say, and while I do understand the business case for season tickets our on the gate price is bonkers and expecting people who work day jobs to pop down and buy/phone up and buy in advance is also silly because life doesn't work like that and I actually feel sorry for people who have so little in their life that they can commit loads of time to a football club.

I'm certain the club read these forums, despite their opinion of at least this one, but they really need to use their fans panel or at least talk to real fans when making these kinds of decisions.

Mr Chip there you are, sitting behind your keyboard waiting to pounce. Quelle Surprise!!

Forgive me for misunderstanding, but I thought people were not happy with the ticketing policy the club have released for the coming season. Indeed it was my view that they were indeed moaning about it! I have not said that they were moaning about one specific aspect of it i.e. season ticket prices. As I said you had not read my post correctly.

As for the maths - well it is an argument not worth getting into really because you will just twist the figures to suit yourself. However the jist of it is that by purchasing a season ticket up front, the bigger the saving the more people are likely to take advantage of it. If you are only able to attend a few matches then it may not be worth getting one. Attend more than 7 games (and that is only 7 out of 23 remember) then you will make a saving. By getting the money "up front" the club are in a stronger position at the start of the season, rather than relying on it coming in incrementally over the course of a season.

The club have very generously not stamped out the illegal practice ( read the tickets, they are NON transferable) of allowing people to give away or even in some cases sell tickets to their mates when they are unable to attend themselves. How many would really pay £15 say, when they can get one cheaper or for nothing off someone who can't go. In this way those who have purchased the season ticket may further benefit from having it ( as you yourself have stated).

For what it's worth I actually do think the price of £25 is too high, but if it was reduced to £20 or even £15 would it REALLY attract a lot more floating fans, I don't think so. Even at a £5 for a crucial must win game on a bank holiday only an extra 900 or so came along.

So there you go, once again my considered views. I await your next contribution with interest.

Easy option.

£15 on the gate to stand, £18 to sit.

Season ticket £230 anywhere.

I really could see no losers with that scenario, £10 a game for those who want to shell out, and while it costs more to get in if you can't people could come to 10-15 games and not feel they were being forced to buy a ST or that they were being ripped off.

If the club charged £4000 for season ticket, took your children hostage and made them work as Victorian chimmney sweeps and demanded the deeds to your house, some people would come out in suppport of it.
Meanwhile, back in the real world.....

Season ticket offer= good
Pay on the gate price= ludicrous.

Snowy sums up the full thread in two lines .. if you don't understand this you are a moron..

He hasn't though has he.

The way I see it is in August after pools have sold as many season tickets as possible they then have the option of reducing the 20/25 prices. If this happens then I see this as very good business from pools. I really hope this happens.

Pointless thread until the season kicks off

What does this mean? And, are you speaking from a position of authority or not?
Not so long ago, the news was that action would be taken if we gave tickets to friends when we couldn't use them ourselves.