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Don't think I'll be bothering buying one this time not worth my while.. :( ..

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Can't believe pay on the day is the same!!!! confised


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Trying to force the hand to buy the season ticket (they can always amend the pay on the day tickets at a later date) but with the level of attendance on mine this season its definitely not worth it .. ..

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Season ticket is still a good offer but pay on the day prices are just daft.

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Well done Pools, would have been happy with £200 tbh but will settle for that.

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I reckon the pay on the day prices might still come down but if they announce it now it could discourage season ticket sales.

If not then it is complete madness, the season ticket price is again superb though.


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Sorry but thats just stupid great deal for season tickets but will just cause people who cant go to sell them on the day like always. You can string me up for this but games I can go to at home next season I will be buying one of these tickets for £10 as there will be loads floating about. If the pay on the day was £15-20 I would just buy straight from the ticket office and not have the chew on.

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Why would a "floating fan" want to pay £25 to go and watch Pools when Sunderland etc are away they wouldnt at all.

IOR are shooting themselves in the foot.

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Trying to force the hand to buy the season ticket (they can always amend the pay on the day tickets at a later date) but with the level of attendance on mine this season its definitely not worth it .. ..


How many games have you been to?


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PJ .. I've been to 3 (before Christmas) and the Morcombe game was going to go to more after Christmas but my Son started playing on a Saturday afternoon..

They can vary the on the day price whenever they like but they're unlikely to do it until after the deadline for the season ticket.

I can't justify buying one at £180 with my level of attendance..

Sorry but I'll be joining the £10 elite too this season.. Honestly Pools if you do keep those on the day prices you'll be losing a lot of money to the speculators!

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You couldn't justify paying £100 if you've been to three games it's hardly Pools fault is it!?

£180 for a season ticket is fantastic value.


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Is it though.....REALLY?

Its fantastic value in relation to what?

Its definitely good value when compared to match day prices........but thats somewhat misleading as the natch day prices are grossly over priced........ridiculously so.

It looks good value compared to premier shit prices. But then again, we are rock bottom in division 4 with a chairman still rocking on about FFP.

So, if your saturday afternoon reolves around watching Pools and nothing else, its great value.

But if its only great value to the detriment of match day prices its just false economy.

And as I am with Mr Offshore in that my lad will be starting to play saturday afternoon, then a season ticket is a waste of time, and the match day prices are just laughable.

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PJ it is fantastic value but you have to look at the prices separate from eachother why should there be a gulf of difference from a match day ticket to price per game of season ticket its madness.

Why not charge £15 pay on the day? People who pay on the day like offshore will always pay on the day due to work etc. Putting the price to £25 forces people to buy cheap tickets on black market for £10. And before people say its only £20 when ordered in advance this is stupid as people who might be not planning on going to the match just might fancy it and decide Saturday morning.

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No one in their right mind can justify the pay on the day prices. Yes the season ticket prices are great but unfortunatly Pools are alienating a range of about 500-1000 fans who all choose to pay on the day and at £25 they wont

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As most home games are on Saturday these days (two home League games on a Tuesday) the matchday prices are also pretty irrelevant to Dibble and Offshore, even though I agree it is madness to keep them the same.

Also, yes the season tickets are great value for money. I'd be supporting my team irregardless and to be paying about 60% less than I was 4 years ago represents good value.

Imagine the shite these two would spout of they actually went to games :laugh: :wink:


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Never said it wasn't (if you've got nothing else to do on a Saturday and can get to every game)but its not worth it for me ..

I work offshore so miss games through that and now that my sons playing on a Saturday Afternoon its definitely not worth it now..

I'm sure I'll be able to pick up a ticket somewhere for £10 or so when I do go..

Sort it out Pools £20/£25 onthe day prices for fourth tier football is just stupid, you're just cutting your nose off to spite your face!

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PJ... you've not mentioned the away fans yet, which is not like you at all.

Could have some local games next year, chance to get in big crowds, price might put a few off.

I'm with dibble, I cant make every week, my life doesn't revolve around pools and I have days with the family instead, when I am free though I'd like to go to pools, but i'll be seeking a discounted ticket if I can, as £20-£25 is terrible, that's a full day at the cinema n swimming for me n the nippers.

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I totally agree regarding the pay on the day price whoever decided to keep it the same is on glue. But I think it still might be reduced after the early bird deadline on 8th July.


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PJ I've PAID the same as you over the season KNOWING I could n't get to ALL the games.. Just because my circumstances have now changed and prevented me from going is irrelevant.. FFS inthe days of the £100 deal I bought a ticket that got used once just to help out.. Any way I'll go ,(when I can) .. I still think the on the day prices are a lunacy..

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How are they irrelevant. Ok Diddle, Offshore and me might be able to go to 3-4 home games a year depending on circumstances so thats in total 12 games. Instead of pools getting £180 (based on £15) they will get zero as people will buy for a tenner. Now say as my previous point that there are between 500-1000 floating fans who would represent the same 4 game a season as us thats a loss of at best £7,500.00 and worst £15,000.00. Now this isnt mega money in football terms but the latter maybe the difference between getting a loan player and not.

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Oh and PJ I've been to 4 games this season.. when I went to school 3+1 = 4 ... (didn't it)

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PJPoolie wrote:
As most home games are on Saturday these days (two home League games on a Tuesday) the matchday prices are also pretty irrelevant to Dibble and Offshore, even though I agree it is madness to keep them the same.

Also, yes the season are great value for money. I'd be supporting my team irregardless and to be paying about 60% less than I was 4 years ago represents good value.

Imagine the shite these two would spout of they actually went to games :laugh: :wink:


PJ, this is a debate worth having, and trying to make it into something else is pointless.

I will go to as many games as I can, but willl NEVER pay £25 to get in.

And yes you are paying 60% less than 4 years ago. I would suggest the quality of the football has dropped about the same.

In other words, are you stupid enough that you would pay what you paid 4 years ago, to watch whats on offer now?

Of course you arent.

So is the value as good as you make out. Really?

And like a lot of people have hinted many times, some just cant afford to pay £180 in one go. And many of them are no longer in a position to get a decent credit rating either......so wont get that deal offered to them.

So these people still want to go, and are also priced out of it at match day prices to.

I can afford a season ticket, but arent getting one for the reason above. I consider myself lucky that I can.

It doesnt mean this whole structure is right, just because it suits you.

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How are they irrelevant. Ok Diddle, Offshore and me might be able to go to 3-4 home games a year depending on circumstances so thats in total 12 games. Instead of pools getting £180 (based on £15) they will get zero as people will buy for a tenner. Now say as my previous point that there are between 500-1000 floating fans who would represent the same 4 game a season as us thats a loss of at best £7,500.00 and worst £15,000.00. Now this isnt mega money in football terms but the latter maybe the difference between getting a loan player and not.


I was joking, for the fourth time I agree completely about match day prices. It was just Offshores comment that he couldn't justify paying £180 for a season ticket as if that's pricey. If you can only attend three games the cost is a not valid reason for not buying a season ticket.


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How many did we sell last year?

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Sorry, but £20 is not an acceptable match day price.

Not in division 4. Not in this economic climate.

It will cost Pools more to paint the prices on the gates, than it will bring in revenue.

If something has a cost that prohibitive, then its a pointless cost, cos no one will pay it.

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Anyone that pays £20 or even £25 is a bit of a thickett in my opinion. Why do this when you can walk around the town or outside the ground at 2;00 on a Saturday and get one for a tenner.

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and if floaters are desperate to watch football on a saturday, the two local wearside clubs are trying their best to attract new followers. And if they improve like they claim they are going to, that might prove a more attractive option for some.

I might be alone here but I am finding Pools power brokers slightly dense at the moment.

This following on from the bright idea to have a pink shirt.

Has someone been on the wacky backy?

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PJ I bought one for seasons knowing I'd get to about 50% of the games but now jnr. plays on a Saturday I can't even do that so that's why "I'm out" this time .. nothing to do with the price .. If my son wasn't playing on the Saturday I probably would of had one (even KNOWING) I'd only make about 50% of the games ..

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20 quid on the day is designed to rip off away supporters and is far too much.


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£15 to stand and £18 to sit is what I'd go, with family tickets of 2 adults and 2 kids for £40. Also be proactive to get people into the ground when a game arises that looks like it might not be the most appealing.


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Whener I have been in the ground this season they away support has been appalling. It would be more cost effective to shut the rink end, and tell them they cant come.

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£15 to stand and £18 to sit is what I'd go, with family tickets of 2 adults and 2 kids for £40. Also be proactive to get people into the ground when a game arises that looks like it might not be the most appealing.


Be honest now. If Pools are midtable in division 4, then none of the games are appealing. Not to floating fans they arent.

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Also Gateshead might come up dont you think they will be competing for our local support? I bet anything their prices wont be £25.

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Anyone that pays £20 or even £25 is a bit of a thickett in my opinion. Why do this when you can walk around the town or outside the ground at 2;00 on a Saturday and get one for a tenner.


That isn't true is it? maybe they just have the best interests of the club at heart and wouldn't want to give some opportunist scrote a tenner.


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PJ I bought one for seasons knowing I'd get to about 50% of the games but now jnr. plays on a Saturday I can't even do that so that's why "I'm out" this time .. nothing to do with the price .. If my son wasn't playing on the Saturday I probably would of had one (even KNOWING) I'd only make about 50% of the games ..


That is fair enough I'm not judging you it is perfectly understandable that you want to support your son but you mentioned the price and that you couldn't justify paying it when the truth is you can't justify committing to a season ticket as you can hardly go.


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Anyone that pays £20 or even £25 is a bit of a thickett in my opinion. Why do this when you can walk around the town or outside the ground at 2;00 on a Saturday and get one for a tenner.


That isn't true is it? maybe they just have the best interests of the club at heart and wouldn't want to give some opportunist scrote a tenner.


Sorry but what self righteous bollocks. The price of the ticket is dictated to by the market value of it and Pools stupidity at the gluff of difference from season ticket to pay on the day. Pools arnt Man Utd who sell out every week and therefore the scrotes you say then charge over the odds for a ticket more than the match day price. In order to do what RG was banging on about and people not selling tickets is to drop the prices to £15 and therefore remove the market of a tenner.

Why would I pay £25 for the same ticket I can get for a tenner I wouldnt as the extra £15 is my beer and pie money for the match. If this was only a difference of a £5 I would give this to Pools.

Sorry if I dont "have the best interests of the club at heart" but in my opinion lately Pools and KH havent had my best interests and that of the fans at heart.

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Still think the £12 and £15 are the best option (and fairest) for pay on the day prices but the powers are too scared of losing the leverage for buying a season ticket by reducing the on the day prices. I won't be surpised if once the early bird price for the season ticket passes there are some "offers" such as pack the park start springing up (especially when the "big" teams are away).

PS.. The leeway for making money on the "spare" season ticket at £10 a pop has been closed significantly by the increase to £180 .. tbh they should've increased to £200 and killed it off altogether..

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The matchday prices are a joke. Who in their right minds is gonna pay that much. This policy is relying on season ticket holders as the casual supporter is priced out.... if we do get a run next season...the floating supporters who do add to the atmosphere will be nowhere to be seen.

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Also paid in rather than buying a ticket for a tenner.

Is this an elite?

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I am not being stella smart John I am being realistic. You are in the minority I bet 90% of others in that same situation would have done that but bought a one at a £10.

Look the key point to all this is £25 is a joke, it causes black market selling, deters floating fans which could be around 500-1000 per match and makes away supports think we are trying to rip their eyes out , thats not me being stella smart its basic thought.

I honestly dont know why Pools have done this

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I'm sure I must be in an elite the "buy a season ticket and use it 4 times" elite or am just dense ??

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Also paid in rather than buying a ticket for a tenner.

Is this an elite?


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Anyone that pays £20 or even £25 is a bit of a thickett in my opinion. Why do this when you can walk around the town or outside the ground at 2;00 on a Saturday and get one for a tenner.


That isn't true is it? maybe they just have the best interests of the club at heart and wouldn't want to give some opportunist scrote a tenner.


Sorry but what self righteous bollocks. The price of the ticket is dictated to by the market value of it and Pools stupidity at the gluff of difference from season ticket to pay on the day. Pools arnt Man Utd who sell out every week and therefore the scrotes you say then charge over the odds for a ticket more than the match day price. In order to do what RG was banging on about and people not selling tickets is to drop the prices to £15 and therefore remove the market of a tenner.

Why would I pay £25 for the same ticket I can get for a tenner I wouldnt as the extra £15 is my beer and pie money for the match. If this was only a difference of a £5 I would give this to Pools.

Sorry if I dont "have the best interests of the club at heart" but in my opinion lately Pools and KH havent had my best interests and that of the fans at heart.


You can't moan about the club citing the FFP rules if you are taking money away from them by buying a ticket off a scrote.

I have no real problem with you getting one for free but the selling of tickets really cheeses me off.


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Take it up with the seller then not the sellee.

compo's just looking after his own pocket, if someone offers you one for 10 you take it.

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unruly poolie wrote:

You can't moan about the club citing the FFP rules if you are taking money away from them by buying a ticket off a scrote.

I have no real problem with you getting one for free but the selling of tickets really cheeses me off.


I am not taking money away from them Pools are forcing people to do this. Its like me saying oh I will buy this car not for £10k of an independent dealer but I will buy it for £25k from the manufacturer. Would you do that???

I know what you getting at but in my opinion this is just rubbish and saying people who dont buy ticket for £10 and give Pools £25 are some way "better supporters with the best interest of club at heart" If Pools used their head all money would go to Pools by pricing the match day tickets accordingly.

And KH can shove his FFP up his arse, saying me buying a £10 is contributing to Pools not signing players is as daft as KH saying that Baldwin and Hartley fees cant be used for players.

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unruly poolie wrote:

You can't moan about the club citing the FFP rules if you are taking money away from them by buying a ticket off a scrote.

I have no real problem with you getting one for free but the selling of tickets really cheeses me off.


The club sold a player for £500k and still cited FFP rules.

I dont think your point has any substance. Sorry.

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Can I just add a comment here in favour of the cheap tickets. Because the tickets tomorrow are only a fiver again, the wife says she will go, a couple of the kids (girls) will go possibly with a friend or two and my mate who doesn't normally go will be going. If they had to pay £25 I don't think any of them would be going. Nuff said!

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