Pools v Fleetwood Thread & Predictions!!!!

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

MadJohn wrote:

It's not a question I can answer, as i simply do not know how fit Marlon Harewood is. Yes, I would have taken off him or James and if it was a decision between James and any other forward at the club I would have left James on the pitch. Harewood is an unknown. Cooper has seen him train this week. I haven't, so I have no choice but to trust his judgement. It's possible that I would have taken Harewood off if I were in Cooper's shoes.

In 1 weeks training can any manager confirm a player will last 90?? We all know luke can

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

James has been poor for weeks. Easy decision.

Where is Baldwin playing as commentary keep saying he is taking throw ins?

At the back and poor for weeks????? What the fuck???

returnofaido · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:50 pm

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

returnofaido wrote:

RB I see your point, but Harewood is physically stronger than James and probably to be honest has more chance of holding the ball up. Probably priority now is to get out with a point. He's got Franks on the bench who can replace Harewood if he tires.

I also see your point so well talk sensibly. 1 up front to me says more running does it not to you? Do you think he's fit enough to play 90. We have 2 subs left and Rodney on the bench. Surely to god luke James is he better option??

well neither of us will know til fulltime :laugh:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Yes poor for weeks.

Sounds like were the only team playing football as usual.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:51 pm

Harewood will provide us with more defensively from corners and free kicks. It would have been ashame whoever was taken off.

Was Richards tackle bad?

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5096

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Haha aye James v 2 defenders or a 34 to who hasn't played 90 mins for months v he same 2. Sometimes just agreeing with folk makes you look silly. Just a point

I presume this is aimed at me. A Luke James at home definitely leave him on away from home against a physical side like fleetwood it is a fairly simple choice the experienced 6ft ex premier league player every time.
Am still unsure who apart from cooper I am agreeing with, so you have lost me on that point.
As an aside if it cost me £100 to go the match I would be watching it and not spending my time on a forum talking the usual shite, just a point like

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Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

returnofaido wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

returnofaido wrote:

RB I see your point, but Harewood is physically stronger than James and probably to be honest has more chance of holding the ball up. Probably priority now is to get out with a point. He's got Franks on the bench who can replace Harewood if he tires.

I also see your point so well talk sensibly. 1 up front to me says more running does it not to you? Do you think he's fit enough to play 90. We have 2 subs left and Rodney on the bench. Surely to god luke James is he better option??

well neither of us will know til fulltime :laugh:

Very true point. With 10 we Havnt done badly at all to be honest so far

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

no6bus wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Haha aye James v 2 defenders or a 34 to who hasn't played 90 mins for months v he same 2. Sometimes just agreeing with folk makes you look silly. Just a point

I presume this is aimed at me. A Luke James at home definitely leave him on away from home against a physical side like fleetwood it is a fairly simple choice the experienced 6ft ex premier league player every time.
Am still unsure who apart from cooper I am agreeing with, so you have lost me on that point.
As an aside if it cost me £100 to go the match I would be watching it and not spending my time on a forum talking the usual shite, just a point like

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Physcal fleetwood side?? Want a 20st striker?? As for watching I am certainly sound that. The modern day man can multi task

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

no6bus wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Haha aye James v 2 defenders or a 34 to who hasn't played 90 mins for months v he same 2. Sometimes just agreeing with folk makes you look silly. Just a point

I presume this is aimed at me. A Luke James at home definitely leave him on away from home against a physical side like fleetwood it is a fairly simple choice the experienced 6ft ex premier league player every time.
Am still unsure who apart from cooper I am agreeing with, so you have lost me on that point.
As an aside if it cost me £100 to go the match I would be watching it and not spending my time on a forum talking the usual shite, just a point like

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Physcal fleetwood side?? Want a 20st striker?? As for watching I am certainly doing that. The modern day man can multi task

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

misterb2001 wrote:

Harewood will provide us with more defensively from corners and free kicks. It would have been ashame whoever was taken off.

Was Richards tackle bad?

Possibly!! Agreed this dosnt help! Hey reacted as though it was a life threatening moment so will need to see a replay

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

returnofaido wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

returnofaido wrote:

RB I see your point, but Harewood is physically stronger than James and probably to be honest has more chance of holding the ball up. Probably priority now is to get out with a point. He's got Franks on the bench who can replace Harewood if he tires.

I also see your point so well talk sensibly. 1 up front to me says more running does it not to you? Do you think he's fit enough to play 90. We have 2 subs left and Rodney on the bench. Surely to god luke James is he better option??

well neither of us will know til fulltime :laugh:

Also I have £20 on harewood at 8/1 to score 1st so on a financial view I disagree with everything I have said

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:01 pm

How's Harewood doing Birthmark?

OddsOnPhil · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:27 am **Posts:** 674

Anyone else listening to Tees, it's bad enough being down to ten men without Ivan Ash insisting on calling Compton Crompton.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Flinders doing his best to concede again

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:18 pm

Come on Pools

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

misterb2001 wrote:

How's Harewood doing Birthmark?

Ok but he clearly can't lead the line by himself and should be replaced soon. He looks fucked, monky had te ball on a breakaway and looked to play the ball on our left as a breakaway but he just didnt move. Stupid point but like James would have.

His touch is fine but with 10 and by himself its the worse possible scenario for a debut

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

MadJohn wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

James has been poor for weeks. Easy decision.

Where is Baldwin playing as commentary keep saying he is taking throw ins?

At the back and poor for weeks????? What the fuck???

As recently as our very last away game, James was outstanding.

He's been unreal at home but to loids who want to shot stir then.....

returnofaido · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:28 pm

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

He'll play 90 now. Game over.

A think the result would have been the same with 10 but still think it was the in correct change. Game time will being him on I suppose so all is not lost but would have preferred to try and win this game and left the clubs best attacker on the pitch. Maybe I'm wrong but it made and still dosnt no sense to me

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:41 pm

Can we please now stop all this bullshit about us challenging for the play offs and prepare ourselves for a scrap at the other end of the table.

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Spender · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:42 pm

Yeah.

Goodnight. sadx

alleztfc · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:04 pm

seems to be happening more regularly now though...

alleztfc · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:51 pm

Agreed. Success breeds success, and as you say only the Bury reverse was against a team you would fancy us against. Forget the play-offs, we're not ready. Let's just look at winning some games ugly.

parmo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:22 pm

our record against the bottom sides this season is decent. That's gonna need to continue if we are to climb away from trouble, as it would be folly to deny we are heading that way

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

MadJohn wrote:

And when a visiting team goes a man down at the Vic we rarely fail to win.

Really? They are the games we struggle to score in and i don't think we won the last 4 or 5?

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

MadJohn wrote:

In the last 15 league games at the Vic in which our opponents have finished a man short, we've won 12 and drawn 2. We weren't always winning when we got the man advantage and we've scored plenty of goals. I think the frustration of not winning such games tends to make them stick in the memory. Southend this season were the first side to take three points at the Vic with a man disadvantage since Huddersfield in 2005.

There haven't been very many games at all in which a man has been dismissed so early so it's difficult to see any pattern, but I think it's a reasonable guess to say that the disadvantaged side loses a large majority of them.

That stat does surprise me, thought there was at least 3 last season alone we failed to win. Must be getting mixed up with the amount of teams who come for a draw and we fail to break them
Down.

horden · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:01 pm

Wouldn't of though Harewood would be taken off so early in his first game. Assuming he was fit if Cooper played him. Think a fit Harewood would give us more than James in a down to 10 men situation.

parmo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:11 pm

Richards has caused the team and the manager a massive problem today with his indiscipline

Reading how Cooper intended to play the game out today it is massively frustrating for him and the rest of the players to have had no opportunity to make an impact on this game

Richards is only young, but he needs a spell in the reserves when Duckworth is fit, and if needs be we should persist with Holden at left back and Austin at right back until Duckworth is back

He has to learn his lesson the hard way, because he has cost us today massively

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Yes, I think we need a borrowed full back for a month.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

We have two full backs, Austin and Holden. No point unless it doesn't sacrifice us bringing someone in in more important areas that is.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

We have two available in the entire squad, one of which if we're being honest can't defend at all.

Any of the reserves/youths doing ok in the full back positions?

parmo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:02 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

He will get a 3 game ban anyway wont he ?

I should have said after his ban, he should get a run in the ressies to teach him a lesson.... but hopefully Duckworth will be back soon!!!

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Loan market for me then!

York is a big game next week.

parmo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:26 pm

tipping point match in fact.... these games set the tone for the next 2 or 3 after that

Lose this one and the pressure will be huge for Wimbledon

We need 3 points, we have to get them

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I hope we don't have to play Holden, play anyone there but not holdon!

sam collin's ugly brother · **Joined:** Wed May 09, 2012 3:57 pm **Posts:** 734

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Flinders doing his best to concede again

I want to congratulate you as you manage week in week out to achieve 'lovely lovely person' status

pittingtonone · **Joined:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:03 pm **Posts:** 130

I agree with all the comments about Holden I wouldn't want a left footed player playing left back able to deliever a cross without cutting back. Also we are defending so good at the moment we would have to score five to get a point.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

The only positive from yesterday is harewood got 90 mins of game time. Holden will go left back and Austin right but If 1 of them gets injured were fucked.

Need to see a replay for the red card but if it was then Richards wants fucking for letting the club and fans down. Losing a man after 2 minutes didnt give us a hope in hell of winning that game

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

MadJohn wrote:

Idea... if Richards wants fucking for the tackle and Cooper wants fucking for the substitution then maybe they should get together. Mind you, we could probably do without the bad weather that will follow.

Surprised you would bring this back up but if you must then the substitution was shocking. In no way whatsoever is luke James the man man to sacrifice. Harewood was fucked and was completely thrown into the deep end. James would have lasted that game. Being the nice guy though and backing everything is you though so crack on.

Have you seen the tackle?? Was it a red and does he deserve a fine?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

He tried to take the ball, unfortunately he missed it and was over the top of it. Added to the fact he was running at pace it didn't look pretty and he could have broke the lads leg. Not intended or malicious but a red card all day long.

Ralph Wrights White Boots · **Joined:** Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:24 pm **Posts:** 103

not convinced about it being a red. Watched it 6 times last night and agree it was very agressive for a nothing situation, but
again the convincing thing for me was the Fleetwood players over the top reaction. Yet again we got done by a team deter-
mined to do everything in their power to sway the ref. We just get bullied every week, and on top of the totally inept refs we
are getting at the moment who give us sweet F.A. we need to become more streetwise, and quickly.
Last week at least one Rochdale player should have gone, but what happened. Nothing. If you can't beat them, join them. Lets bay for blood from now on every time somebody puts a dodgy tackle in etc. Looks like the only course of action!

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Whatever the Fleetwood players did it was a red card, he can't connect with spuds showing halfway up someone's shin these days and stay on the field he could have easily broken his leg.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

MadJohn wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

MadJohn wrote:

Idea... if Richards wants fucking for the tackle and Cooper wants fucking for the substitution then maybe they should get together. Mind you, we could probably do without the bad weather that will follow.

Surprised you would bring this back up but if you must then the substitution was shocking. In no way whatsoever is luke James the man man to sacrifice. Harewood was fucked and was completely thrown into the deep end. James would have lasted that game. Being the nice guy though and backing everything is you though so crack on.

Have you seen the tackle?? Was it a red and does he deserve a fine?

You know, I used to think it was all a bit of an act with you, that you deliberately misunderstood or misrepresented because you liked an argument. But I'm genuinely coming around to the idea that you simply don't understand light-hearted. A bit odd, but there you go.

Only seen the tackle once, and at full speed, but it looked a clear red to me unfortunately. Apologies if this means I'm not backing Richards

Just didnt find it funny.

Honesty is always the best policy well done and keep it up

alienlife · **Posted:** Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:37 pm

Having seen the tackle Richards deserved to walk, but he doesn't deserve any abuse for it these things happen and I'm sure he will learn from it.

I can also understand the reasons Cooper may have chosen to sacrifice James not Harewood: Cooper may have decided James would have benefited from a rest, Cooper may have thought James playing alone while a man short was a risk of injury, He might have wanted Harewood to get 90 minutes, He may have decided the big strong experienced man was a better option. He may of course have though none of those things but regardless I don't think it was stupid and don't think the outcome would have been any different had he subbed anyone else.

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