Compton

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I didn't slag him off at the game and clapped him off.

But saying he had a good game really is pushing it.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

returnofaido wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

His substitution was finally decided after he horribly messed up a good position on the right lifting the ball into the Town End. For about the fourth time in the game Cooper and Hignett went mad with frustration towards him and they shouted Franks straight back.

he's left footed. the defence rests. :handgestures-salute:

He crossed it with the outside of his left foot on that occasion into the Towm End.....

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:42 pm

returnofaido wrote:

loyal blue wrote:

He was continually hiding when I watched him in the first half. When Duckworth picked the ball up at full back, Compton stayed with their full back instead of trying to lose him or come short. He was basically hiding when we needed players to stand up and be counted. as someone has said, he looked to have his mind elsewhere.

If he is missing his family, get them to come up and stay up in Hartlepool for a few nights. Like I said earlier, he is a footballer and will be likely to be plying his trade away from home.

first paragraph shite, second paragraph better.

how the lad can be accused of hiding is just beyond me. like I said, we were no more that ten yards away from him for much of the first half and they got two men to mark him to stop him. if his right foot is not his favoured foot then why play him down the right ? he can only ever cut back inside on to his left when he plays there.

perhaps a bit of support would encourage the lad instead of nitpicking at his every performance. I thought poole was very average, but wouldn't dream of coming on here an calling him shite or awful. in fact, as we were coming down from where we sat for the second half I gave him a pat on the back and told him "well done". far more productive than slagging the lad off.

We must have watched a different game Aido or we obviously know nowt about footy, some people on here seem to have made up their minds about Compton and decided that unless he has a brilliant game when everything he does is class then he must be shite. I'm afraid Cooper seems to be thinking along those lines as well, always seems to happen to flair players. As I said earlier, 'whipping boy' would be the appropriate term.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Who has said he is shite !?

He has lots of ability but clearly has issues with his attitude/temperament but I hope Cooper shows patience with him but that patience was certainly tested on Saturday. I 'm just not sure how you could watch that game on Saturday and think he had a good game.

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:36 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

Who has said he is shite !?

He has lots of ability but clearly has issues with his attitude/temperament but I hope Cooper shows patience with him but that patience was certainly tested on Saturday. I 'm just not sure how you could watch that game on Saturday and think he had a good game.

Erm..... You said he was awful, Mill House Poolie said he was shite. I just don't see how you watched the same game as me and a few others and thought he was awful! He was getting the better of the full back nearly every time he took him on and quite often had two defenders for company. As someone stated, he is a league two player and he isn't going to get it right every time but cut the lad a bit of slack will you! rakxe

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I didn't say he is awful, I said he was awful which is a big difference.

I rate him as a player he just had a frustrating day and let himself down a bit when he came off. Are we supposed to pretend that didn't happen when are discussing the game afterwards?

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:20 pm

Yeah, massive difference PJ

How you see his performance as awful is beyond me! Have you ever played the game mate or are you another 'playstation generation/premier league devotee??

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

That doesn't even deserve a reply.

Boatie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:32 pm

I honestly think he would benefit by being put back on the left..... No problems with switching at times during the game, but he seems to be less willing to run full pelt at/round defenders on the right as he has to check back onto his left.

parmo · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:43 pm

some days it just doesn't go for you, and it was one of those days for him. I like him as a player a lot, he certainly came back to help out Duckworth to prevent him being one v one against their left winger whenever he had to. That's something Monkhouse is still prone to not doing 100% of the time on the other flank, which has been Monky's Achilles Heel for a few year to be fair!!!!

To be honest, I don't think picking out sections of peoples' opinions then interpreting them as out and out criticism of the player is fair either!!!

As a team, as a club, HUFC have made enormous strides and to me this type of debate shows how much better we have become that we are essentially nitpicking over performance levels not being as high as they normally are

returnofaido · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:26 pm

normally I'd agree with you parmo, but Compton was directly called "shite" and "awful". that's not really picking out sections of peoples' opinions. it's completely counterproductive.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

returnofaido wrote:

normally I'd agree with you parmo, but Compton was directly called "shite" and "awful". that's not really picking out sections of peoples' opinions. it's completely counterproductive.

Give over man !!!

'Directly called' It's a forum a couple of days later and the awful comment was about his performance not him as a Footballer, he is a decent player only a couple of home games ago against Northampton he was great. He just didn't have a good day on Saturday and when you see his reaction to being subbed and a couple of little things before that you realise why a talented player has had such a sporadic nomadic career. I am going to repeat what I have already said a few times I hope Cooper stays patient with him because he has ability.

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:05 pm

And I'll repeat what I said; if you thought that was an awful performance from him then you can't have been at the same game. As a matter of interest, how did you think James and Sweeney did on Saturday?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

The manager took him off and was going to sub him earlier than he did, does this normally suggest that the manager thinks he was having a good game?

James was quiet and tightly marked, Sweeney closed people down and worked hard but saw very little of the ball as the little he did he didn't show any quality on it. Am I allowed to say that ?

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:40 pm

As stated previously, he's the managers whipping boy and unless he is bang on top of his game then he will be favourite to be dragged off when we need a change. It's reassuring to know you have a hotline to cooper in the dugout, I take this is how you know he was going to sub Compton. Of course, you can say what you like, but I think you should put a little more thought into it before you do.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

We should stick you in charge of team affairs .

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:03 am

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

He was never going to sub Compton in the first half. As iv already said Walton signalled over while feeling his hamstring, walker went to warm up, stripped off and then Walton gave a thumbs up to indicate he would be ok and Brad sat down. Not quite sure either why the board experts think Walker would come on instead of Franks for a right winger.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Block B Blues wrote:

As stated previously, he's the managers whipping boy and unless he is bang on top of his game then he will be favourite to be dragged off when we need a change. It's reassuring to know you have a hotline to cooper in the dugout, I take this is how you know he was going to sub Compton. Of course, you can say what you like, but I think you should put a little more thought into it before you do.

Your wasting your time mate. Its fairly obvious to everyone that it wasnt Compton coming off and there's a huge clue to back this up. The Player coming on was walker, how many times has walker came on and played on the wing. Everybody knows when Compton goes off franks comes on. When Sweeney goes off Poole comes on and when Walton or Dolan go off then its walker who comes on.

If walker was to replace Compton, then when Compton went off why didnt he??

Its fairly obvious either Walton or Dolan had picked up a knock but ran it off before the change could be made.

As a team wernt at the races for half an hour but then we battered them for the other 60. To single out compton for that 1st half hour tells me some folk see him as the new Howard

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Walker started 3 or 4 games on the right earlier in the season........

Mill House Poolie · **Joined:** Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:13 pm **Posts:** 112

Block B Blues wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

Who has said he is shite !?

He has lots of ability but clearly has issues with his attitude/temperament but I hope Cooper shows patience with him but that patience was certainly tested on Saturday. I 'm just not sure how you could watch that game on Saturday and think he had a good game.

Erm..... You said he was awful, Mill House Poolie said he was shite.

To right I said he was shite, but that's not to say he is shite.

I'm entitled to my opinion and I think that's the 2nd game in a row he has been. I totally agree with playing him on the left hand side, it can't be easy asking a naturally left footer to play on the right especially when his right foot is just for standing on. His attitude is a concern at the moment and needs to be channeled properly.

If he indeed was having an excellent game I can't for the life of me comprehend why the manager took him off.

I'm with the manager on this one like :clap:

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:32 am

PJPoolie wrote:

Walker started 3 or 4 games on the right earlier in the season........

But it was the right of a central 3 as opposed to right wing, there's a clear difference in the roles.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

misterb2001 wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

Walker started 3 or 4 games on the right earlier in the season........

But it was the right of a central 3 as opposed to right wing, there's a clear difference in the roles.

Damn you beat me to it rakxe

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Do you think he had a good game on Saturday?

He actually played games on the right of a four man midfield. Buts that's not the issue.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

I think the truth as usual lies somewhere in the middle. He wasnt excellent and he wasnt shite.

Cooper got pissed off with him not getting enough crosses in and his attempt which went over the town end was the final straw. Playing him on the right aint ideal for him to get crosses in. In fact when we took a short corner to him and he had time to cross on his left, he sent in the best cross of the game which somehow Burgess failed to score from.

Thinking about it all our best chances came from crosses so clearly Cooper thought it best to get the ball in so brought Franks on.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

If compton was getting subbed in the 1st half as pj is adamant he was, why was walker coming on and not franks??

The obvious signs to me were either Dolan and Walton had picked up a knock and with the busiest period of the season coming he dosnt want to risk them. Especially at 1 down in the cup. However whichever player had time to run it off as the ball was in play and half time was very close to be able to have a proper look.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Why do you invent things that haven't been said?

Very simple do you think Compton had a good game on Saturday? I didn't, from the impression he was giving towards him neither did the manager. We were under the impression that when Walker was stripped it was Compton coming off by the instructions Hignett was giving and the areas he was pointing at. At that point we started getting some joy down the right and he sat. I'm not adament it's just the impression we got. Only a couple of people could answer that.

You're like a dog with a fucking bone.

Also to have the brass neck to criticise someone for singling out a player (which I'm not as I've said I rate him) are you actually taking the piss!?

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

For about the 5th time Walton signalled to the bench about his hamstring and then gave the thumbs up to say he could carry on and Walker sat down.

It eventually forced Walton off in the second half.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I may have missed that it wasn't obvious because Walton was probably our best player in the first half and didn't recieve any treatment when he went off later in the game.

That isn't even the issue though!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

PJPoolie wrote:

I may have missed that it wasn't obvious because Walton was probably our best player in the first half and didn't recieve any treatment when he went off later in the game.

That isn't even the issue though!

It sort of is as you keep banging on about Compton coming off in the first half.

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:38 am

Mill House Poolie wrote:

Block B Blues wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

Who has said he is shite !?

He has lots of ability but clearly has issues with his attitude/temperament but I hope Cooper shows patience with him but that patience was certainly tested on Saturday. I 'm just not sure how you could watch that game on Saturday and think he had a good game.

Erm..... You said he was awful, Mill House Poolie said he was shite.

To right I said he was shite, but that's not to say he is shite.

I'm entitled to my opinion and I think that's the 2nd game in a row he has been. I totally agree with playing him on the left hand side, it can't be easy asking a naturally left footer to play on the right especially when his right foot is just for standing on. His attitude is a concern at the moment and needs to be channeled properly.

If he indeed was having an excellent game I can't for the life of me comprehend why the manager took him off.

I'm with the manager on this one like :clap:

I just can't comprehend how anyone can say he was shite. I can only think you are about 8 years old and can't see over the top of the wall on the Mill House terrace. Either that or you are PJs guide dog.

We are all entitled to an opinion MHP, I'm with the majority on this one.

Call it a draw, move on.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

I may have missed that it wasn't obvious because Walton was probably our best player in the first half and didn't recieve any treatment when he went off later in the game.

That isn't even the issue though!

It sort of is as you keep banging on about Compton coming off in the first half.

The great thing about threads on forums is through the ability reading back you can see what has actually been said and what I actually said (once) is 'he nearly got subbed earlier' You apprently five times (according to you) said it was Walton. You may be correct I might be but have a read back if it's banging on you're after.

All have am saying or have said is I thought he had a poor game, the decision to sub him was the right one and he let himself down with his attitude when he came off. If people disagree with that fair enough but don't round on someone trying to make an issue of something that isn't I don 't know how many times I've said that I rate him and hope Cooper is patient with him, I have banged on about that.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

PJPoolie wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

I may have missed that it wasn't obvious because Walton was probably our best player in the first half and didn't recieve any treatment when he went off later in the game.

That isn't even the issue though!

It sort of is as you keep banging on about Compton coming off in the first half.

The great thing about threads on forums is through the ability reading back you can see what has actually been said and what I actually said (once) is 'he nearly got subbed earlier' You apprently five times (according to you) said it was Walton. You may be correct I might be but have a read back if it's banging on you're after.

All have am saying or have said is I thought he had a poor game, the decision to sub him was the right one and he let himself down with his attitude when he came off. If people disagree with that fair enough but don't round on someone trying to make an issue of something that isn't I don 't know how many times I've said that I rate him and hope Cooper is patient with him, I have banged on about that.

Yeah you werent banging on about it....

'He nearly got dragged off before half time.'
'We thought Cooper was going to take off Compton just by the way him and Hignett were getting visibly pissed off with his lack of work rate and general demeanour.'
'He had a couple of run in's with Cooper and Hignett first half, I think he thought he was getting subbed.'
'The manager took him off and was going to sub him earlier than he did'
'We were under the impression that when Walker was stripped it was Compton coming off'

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Apart from all of those times though I didn't say a thing.

Seriously though, people can't actually read what is being said on here.

He was awful/shite becomes he is and I/we were under the impressions becomes 'I am adamant that was definitely the case'

parmo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:11 pm

seconds out! round ten!!!

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:13 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

Apart from all of those times though I didn't say a thing.

Seriously though, people can't actually read what is being said on here.

He was awful/shite becomes he is and I/we were under the impressions becomes 'I am adamant that was definitely the case'

It's straw men, PJ. They have a lot to answer for. Where would a good argument be without them ?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

For clarity what is the correct reaction when being subbed from now on that fans will accept?

Just so i can spot the bad apples n the bad attituders.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Yubep wrote:

For clarity what is the correct reaction when being subbed from now on that fans will accept?

Just so i can spot the bad apples n the bad attituders.

Its cos of the tattoos....

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:47 pm

grabec wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

Apart from all of those times though I didn't say a thing.

Seriously though, people can't actually read what is being said on here.

He was awful/shite becomes he is and I/we were under the impressions becomes 'I am adamant that was definitely the case'

It's straw men, PJ. They have a lot to answer for. Where would a good argument be without them ?

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:01 pm

Block B Blues wrote:

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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

grabec wrote:

Block B Blues wrote:

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Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:17 pm

Yubep wrote:

For clarity what is the correct reaction when being subbed from now on that fans will accept?

Just so i can spot the bad apples n the bad attituders.

A cartwheel and a fist pump

parmo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:24 pm

if it's fans , then it's a cheeseburger and a bovril

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Yubep wrote:

For clarity what is the correct reaction when being subbed from now on that fans will accept?

Just so i can spot the bad apples n the bad attituders.

I dont mind a player being gutted to be subbed, they should be. But Cooper certainly had an air of authority about him as he firmly put Compton in his place for his petulance.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Yubep wrote:

For clarity what is the correct reaction when being subbed from now on that fans will accept?

Just so i can spot the bad apples n the bad attituders.

Its cos of the tattoos....

I blame duke Webb

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Cant beat a duke webb special.

I thought fans loved passion? So fist pumps on the pitch are allowed but in the dugout they are not?

A handbook needs to be made so players know the right time to display emotions.

Comptons been here 6 months, he's still finding his feet, it's a shame some people appear to have labelled him a bad apple so quickly.

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Yubep wrote:

Comptons been here 6 months, he's still finding his feet, it's a shame some people appear to have labelled him a bad apple so quickly.

They haven't, I don't think. You don't have to like everything about a person to be generally in favour.

I'm going to give a short talk on straw men. But not yet, as I'm off for a sarnie and a bakewell slice.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:17 pm

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parmo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:12 pm

what did you get on your shoplifting spree? We got loads

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