Jack Baldwin

alienlife · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:13 pm

Stop the thread.

Just seen jack in the Asda, he was pushing a small trolley with one hand and playing with his phone.

The lad can't be that bad if he can multi-task.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I seen him in TGI Fridays Saturday night, he was eating his food and talking...

Take that on board with today's asda revelation and I think were onto a winner here.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

His flick ons need work though if he's going to be considered as a great

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

alienlife wrote:

Stop the thread.

Just seen jack in the Asda, he was pushing a small trolley with one hand and playing with his phone.

The lad can't be that bad if he can multi-task.

Did he manage on the self service tills though?

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

well we are 3rd bottom of the shittiest league in the country, so someone in the team must be shite.

parmo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:08 pm

it's a combination of players not all playing well enough collectively. We can't carry any passengers. Everyone needs to be at their best and for some reason it's not happening and we are getting punished big time for a large percentage of mistakes - which is unusual in itself in the bottom division.

I can't help but feel our play has warranted another 4 points over the games I've seen (although this does not include any for Saturday's match)

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

We ain't really set up that good if were being honest. Playing 2 holding role players in a 442 will struggle to win many games.

Saying that we hardly have a player who is consistent and this is also a major concern.

Oxford were a canny side but 2nd half we had some decent spells and at 2-1 Luke James missed a sitter and there 2nd was against the run of play. Its not as bad as it seems. We can get out of this but we are going to need to start turning pressure into goals. We must attack more especially at home and in a 442 we must play with an attacking midfielder. James is scoring goals as I have always believed he would but he is feeding of very little. I'm just thankful he is finally ahead of Howard in the pecking order.

Bilcliff · **Joined:** Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:21 pm **Posts:** 329

Maybe if we signed a striker it would help. You know, the one we almost had in the bag on transfer deadline day

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

playing with 2 defensive midfielders would make sense to protect a young naive back four, which we have austin aside, unfortunatly 1 of our defensive midfielders is a kid from boro just finding his feet and the immovable simon walton, who offers about as much protection as a condom with a big hole in the end.

Waltons getting exposed massivly in a midfield 2.

You dont realise how good the likes of tinkler, widdrington, boland, murrey where until you watch him prance around every other week.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Its cringeworthy watching Walton shout at others for a mistake when he makes so many each and every game

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

He knows hes doing it, he gets frustrated n shouts at the clouds and bangs the grass, he's just trying to force it too much, every pass it OTT, chill the fark out simon n play an easy ball.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

How many times does he try a needless outside of the boot pass when a simple ball is there. We lose possession a hell of alot through this.

Bilcliff · **Joined:** Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:21 pm **Posts:** 329

Yubep wrote:

playing with 2 defensive midfielders would make sense to protect a young naive back four, which we have austin aside, unfortunatly 1 of our defensive midfielders is a kid from boro just finding his feet and the immovable simon walton, who offers about as much protection as a condom with a big hole in the end.

Waltons getting exposed massivly in a midfield 2.

You dont realise how good the likes of tinkler, widdrington, boland, murrey where until you watch him prance around every other week.

He doesn't so much prance around it's more of a leisurely stroll. Like he was taking the dog for a walk

parmo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:38 pm

James is doing his fair share getting goals at the moment and he regular gets into goalscoring positions. To say we haven't got a striker right now is clearly wrong. The lad is doing a hell of a job for a young kid, all he is guilty of is possibly missing more chances than we can afford right now. The comment about the non signing of the striker should maybe have been better worded as I think a second out aand out striker to partner James would benfit him enormously and share the burden

Let's face it if he got injured right now, who would score for us?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

It would also be fair to say Andy Monkhouse is playing very well.

He was again one of the best players on the pitch on Saturday. We've stumbled upon a half promising front two.

Jonny · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:13 pm

We are a better team than our league form suggests. We actually have some really good players but tactically and mentally we are piss weak.

Cooper gas got selections wrong for a fair chunk so far and we need to adapt the approach...

Baldwin will provide the bite we require in the middle, he needs to be in midfield. He was quality there last season, he would run the show in this league. This has for to be tried....

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

jonny youve made your mind up over cooper already havent you?

Jonny · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:15 pm

He's making a lot of mistakes. We have some good players and I think we should be getting more than one win in nine against the shite we are up against.

He's learning the role but I hope he doesn't take too long.

I think we should be between 10th and 16th in the league. Hopefully Cooper can pick up a few wins and get us a bit of breathing space soon.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

A lot of these 'good players' are regularly making a lot of mistakes as well.

Take the goals we've conceded lately, they have had little to do with tactics and more down to rank bad defending and individual errors.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

what makes you think they are good johnny? when where they good for say a run of 5-10 games over the last 3 to 4 years?

They havent been, none of them have.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

By my reckoning Pools have taken 57 points from the last 65 League games.

Is that the managers fault because we're onto the third one in that period? All of these good players would surely do better than that ?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

These mystery players that are so good simply don't exist at this club.

We have some promising youngsters that have shown a bit of form here n there, but nothing to get carried away over.

It's always the managers fault to some, Johnny's made his mind up on cooper very early n nothing he does now will change that.

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:49 am

Yubep wrote:

what makes you think they are good johnny? when where they good for say a run of 5-10 games over the last 3 to 4 years?

They havent been, none of them have.

Earlier this year didn't we go 7 unbeaten winning 5 of the matches....

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:58 am

PJPoolie wrote:

By my reckoning Pools have taken 57 points from the last 65 League games.

Is that the managers fault because we're onto the third one in that period? All of these good players would surely do better than that ?

Surely that just sort of proves the point I am making?

I'm not in any way blaming Cooper for all the problems but Hughes got 33 points from 29 games despite taking over a team losing just about every week. That was in a higher league. I don't think it's too much to be wanting and expecting Pools to be averaging more than a point a game or more than one win in nine.

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:02 am

Yubep wrote:

These mystery players that are so good simply don't exist at this club.

We have some promising youngsters that have shown a bit of form here n there, but nothing to get carried away over.

It's always the managers fault to some, Johnny's made his mind up on cooper very early n nothing he does now will change that.

That's rubbish Yubep. A few wins and a bit of breathing space above the relegation zone is all I ask. If Cooper could have us sitting pretty between 14th and 18th even with a bit of space and comfort above the relegation zone then I will be happy.

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:06 am

Chip Fireball wrote:

Austin- 4th division defender, well past his best and in terminal decline
Duckworth- A promising kid lifted from Bradford Park Avenue
Burgess- Another kid with very limited experience who is comfortable on the ball but prone to lapses of concentration
Baldwin- Another kid signed from non league with bags of potential but with limited experience

Compton- A £350 a week player on his way to non league before we stepped in. Another kid with limited experience
Dolan- A kid with some potential but who Boro clearly dont think is Championship class- hence the loan
Walton- A porky journeyman of limited ability and mobility
Franks- Another kid who couldnt cut it at Boro and very inconsistent

James- Another kid with bags of potential but still learning his trade
Monkhouse- Talented but inconsistent and another slowly dropping down the grades.

That was our starting outfield line up on Saturday. Sorry Jonny but most of them are kids with potential, cheap recruits, or old stagers on the downgrade. The hawks have stepped in for most of the players we had ready to play for better sides, and left us with the ones learning the trade, the loanees getting some experience, and the ones like Collins and Howard nobody wanted.

Maybe Cooper should just back to what Hughes did and play 5-4-1 every game, bring back Collins, Sweeney and Howard and play for a sneaky 1-0 win. And I'm sure if he did every fucker would twist like fuck that it was boring to watch and that he should be giving the kids a chance.

These " good " players you mention are unfortunately only " good " for about 30-40 minutes a game, and thats why they are playing in League Two.

I would rather we did play a boring style and nick wins than have 20 minutes of decent football each week and get beat. I just want to stay in the football league......

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

We've effectively been shite and uninspiring since we got promoted back in 2007 ..fair enough we spent our longest time in the 3rd (1st) division ever under IOR's chairmanship but only by the skin of our teeth. The lack of vision from Hodcroft and Co. has been at the best myopic . Football is a success formulated game a winning team is self financing and its a fact that in life you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear .. Invest in the team and see the rewards ..then we may trust you with OUR ground.. (There again we probably won't)

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Jonny wrote:

Yubep wrote:

These mystery players that are so good simply don't exist at this club.

We have some promising youngsters that have shown a bit of form here n there, but nothing to get carried away over.

It's always the managers fault to some, Johnny's made his mind up on cooper very early n nothing he does now will change that.

That's rubbish Yubep. A few wins and a bit of breathing space above the relegation zone is all I ask. If Cooper could have us sitting pretty between 14th and 18th even with a bit of space and comfort above the relegation zone then I will be happy.

It's all we all ask johnny, but im gunna ask again, who are these good players and when where they good consistently?

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:35 am

Most of the squad have played at a higher level, it's the fourth division.

Every single player that started on Saturday should be able to hold their own at this level.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

why should they?

Johnny check out our record from the past 2 years.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:16 am

I'm amazed that anyone can blame Cooper for the current run of form.

Our best match day sqaud contains players who can perform differently between halves never mind between games, players who are so woefully slow and unaware of their limitations they're embarrassing and players who are just starting to play league football on a weekly basis.

The alternative is to pay the squad we have a decent wage and bring in a whole new set of players on loan, that isn't going to happen and if the club sack another manager without backing him first then I (and I'm sure a lot of others) will question going back to watch the club rot and decay any longer.

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:57 pm

Yubep wrote:

why should they?

Johnny check out our record from the past 2 years.

The record in the second half of last season

Played 23, Points 32

That suggests that the players can perform and pick up points. We are also playing teams that are far worse this season......

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