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 Post subject: Gazza
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4776338/Tragic-Paul-Gascoigne-on-video.html

Absolutely tragic. Not long left I would suggest

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Saddest thing I have seen in a long while that like :(


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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:17 pm 
There's a million like Gazza, but they can't check into the Priory or another rehab because of the cost. I wish him well but the whole problem needs addressing, not just one case.


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dead within a year looking at that

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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:59 pm 
Watched the first the minute, can't watch any more. So sad, one of my favourite players of all time. Don't think I've seen him in worse nick than this. Fear for him unless somebody helps him.


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Spender wrote:
There's a million like Gazza, but they can't check into the Priory or another rehab because of the cost. I wish him well but the whole problem needs addressing, not just one case.


Agreeing with pooliekev on that one Alchol wrecks so many families its unbelieveable. People don't understand they think its they just go too far and can stop at anytime but they can't its horrible and Iwouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.. Hope he pulls through btw ..but the demons inside his head have got a hold again now :(

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His leech of a father and the legions of hangers-on like Jimmy 5-bellies, Chris Evans, Danny Baker et al must all be feeling real proud :roll:

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dont forget his step daughter, who refuses to speak to him, but is only famous because of his name.

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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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am I the only one who doesn't have sympathy for him. Like someone else said he probably has the money to get treatment in the priory or somewhere else. If a drunk in the streets approached all those who are feeling sorry for him and asked for money how many of those would give him a couple of quid and say well I felt sorry for him...my guess not many. Yes he had talent but maybe Joe Bloggs in the street had talent as something but then circumstances all went against him he lost his job, his home , his family and turned to alcohol then the streets and then approaching those who feel sorry for Gazza. I wish him well and hope he recovers but sympathy for his position, mostly self inflicted others end up in the same boat through no fault of their own.

Tony Adams turned his life around many others have done the same. A lot didn't get themselves into the situation Gazza has. Like I said hopefully he'll recover with the help of the friends he has and maybe the likes of Adams who have been through it.

Like someone else said his step-daughter slags him off but uses his name for fame, she not even a Gascoigne and you can bet a £ to a pinch salt her story be in some rag before the ashes have cooled on him.

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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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Didn't say I felt sorry for him bob. Just it's very sad

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wasn't specifically directed at you. There loads all over the place saying how they feel sorry for him., including some on here. If you thought was directed specifically at you I apologise mate

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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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Yes he had talent but maybe Joe Bloggs in the street had talent as something but then circumstances all went against him he lost his job, his home , his family and turned to alcohol then the streets and then approaching those who feel sorry for Gazza. I wish him well and hope he recovers but sympathy for his position, mostly self inflicted others end up in the same boat through no fault of their own.

Tony Adams turned his life around many others have done the same. A lot didn't get themselves into the situation Gazza has. Like I said hopefully he'll recover with the help of the friends he has and maybe the likes of Adams who have been through it.

Like someone else said his step-daughter slags him off but uses his name for fame, she not even a Gascoigne and you can bet a £ to a pinch salt her story be in some rag before the ashes have cooled on him.


Don't know what you're getting at here Bob ..drink is as much an addiction a coke, smack or cigarettes .. the only trouble is some people don't realise what it can do to you till its too late and then they're hooked.

They get to a point where they can't function without it. The sooner something is done about this problem the better .

We need facilities like the priory for everyone ..maybe it would be a good idea for the peddlars of said drug to pay for them from their profits... After all said done they cease money from drug smugglers don't they??

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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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It's an illness not a lifestyle choice Bob


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I feel a lot of sympathy for him. He's got a lot of mental health issues dating back to when he was a kid but instead of being helped and supported he was ruthlessly exploited, not least by people who professed to love him or who were paid to look after his interests. You almost get the feeling that they're waiting for him to die so they can sell their 'inside accounts' and 'sensational truths' for top dollar- one last pay day while they're burying the poor sod.


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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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Nice narrow minded ignorent views there bob.

I guess someone with loads of money cant get depression either?

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It's part of the fellas mental makeup. He has an addictive personality. When it's not drink it's drugs when it's not drugs its gambling. Silly to say we wouldn't feel sorry for a bloke in the street as much, of course we wouldn't but we haven't grown up with him being a hero and an icon so there will never be that emotional attachment.


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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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I understand its an illness and when people show the same sadness/sympathy for others like the drunk in the street who has the same illness as Gazza then I'll understand why they doing it. I have said I hope he gets better and I mean that just like I hope the drunken tramp down town(if there is one) gets better but what I don't understand is why people suddenly feel sorry for someone because they watched him play football.

I bet there people on here and on social networks sites playing the sympathy card for Gazza who if saw a drunk in the street would tell him/her to F*** off and then proceed to call them to friends and on social sites. It's that hypocrisy I mainly calling on here. All those who are saying how sad donate some money to AA or another group that helps drunks. Then when they play the sympathy card I'll say well they've done something about helping drunks not just saying how sad it is that Gazza is one but F*** the rest. Maybe I put it badly I don't know, my point is that he can get treatment and there should be more available for Joe Bloggs in the street.

At least if I tell the drunk in the street to F*** off I being consistent.

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Nice narrow minded ignorent views there bob.

I guess someone with loads of money cant get depression either?


Depression = automatic alcoholism now does it and I have narrow minded ignorant (spelt with an a not an e as well and therefore correctly :wink: ) views. He may have been/be depressed he may not but I know people who have been diagnosed with depression previously and can honestly say none of them turned to drink so come on Yubep, why does depression = alcoholism ? We talking two different illnesses here yes depression may lead to alcoholism but it may not. I'm not an expert on either you appear to be able to link them so I'm happy to listen to you. And of course it only relevant if 100% of depressives are alcoholics or vice versa. Walk into the King John at 9am any day of the week and there'll be loads drinking (I've been in for a breakfast and yes on occasions long away trips etc I've drank at 9am but it a rarity not a norm) There not to many look depressed. But like I said I'm not an expert to me they just people who like or need a drink at 9am maybe I'm wrong and there's a depressed association alcoholics meeting every day. Now that a tongue in cheek sentence, if I had narrow minded ignorant views thats what i would think. Some may be some wont be but I can't tell the difference looking at them. Do I feel sympathy for them do I buy them a drink ? no I just get on with my life so I as bad as most I don't want to know when other peoples(strangers) lives can enter mine I just ignore it. Some because a famous person is in the daily papers start playing the sympathy card. Then about 30 seconds after typing how sorry they are move on to their normal life and basically don't give a flying F***.

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Alcoholics don't have the occasional pint in King Johns no matter at what time of the morning it is .they're too busy drinking industrial amounts of cheap vodka to do that.. If you look you'll see what I think I think the manufacturers should be made to pay for this and maybe some of this cash that the shops are going to coin in on this minimum pricing thing (if it comes off ) should be put into services that try to prevent or cure this horrible disease.

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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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OSP I agree more money needs to be invested to help those who suffer from alcoholism. My point is the same people who are on social network sites/message boards saying how sorry they are for Gazza and how sad it is he's like this now will be the first to start complaining that there money is being used in to help others. You know it and I know it. I not having a go at the illness I had ago at the F****** hypocrites. And not on this thread, But in general.

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Bob, how do you know that the people showing sympathy for Gazza are these imaginary people that go around abusing tramps?

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I haven't said they abuse tramps TPP show me where I have ?? I said they would say F*** off or have a F*** the rest attitude as they just ignore the situation. The tell them to F*** off was in the metaphorical sense not necessarily in the literal one.

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What imaginary people the only imaginary people around here(on this thread) are in your head. Now if you have a split personality I have sympathy for you as I class you as a friend.

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So basically what you're saying is that unless you have sympathy for every single alcoholic in the world you can't have sympathy for Gazzas situation and you're two faced.

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No sympathy here but I wish him well.

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I have a degree of sympathy, he's an addict, i'd even go as far as to say a born addict, i've read his books n his addictions started long before the trappings of fame took over, all his money has done is just give him greater access n make his addictions 10 times worse.

I dont doubt some of it is self inflicted, he's made some stupid choices which i think even he knows are all of his fault.

It's tragic as he is such a nice man and all he ever wanted to do was play footy, once that was taken away from him he was always gunna struggle.

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Nice man, tell that to his ex wife he beat up!

I agree he has been an addict before footy and is a very troubled individual.

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I dont doubt some of it is self inflicted, he's made some stupid choices which i think even he knows are all of his fault.

Didnt you read that bit?

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A lot of his problems are self inflicted though Yubep.

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Arent most peoples problems self inflicted?

Doesnt mean we have to appear hollierthathou, and say Fook em, does it?

I wish I could find this perfect world that some of you lot appear to inhabit.

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Bob, I thought you were a socialist? The bloke clearly has issues and the only person harmed is himself. other than when he smacked his wife when she told him that Piers Morgan was the father of their child.


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MrI that lost me. I'm not going to go on message boards and social sites claiming to feel sorry for the bloke when I don't as such. I don't wish him harm and honestly hope he recovers. My original point obviously badly put is how many people are going on these sites and saying how they feel sorry for him but until it re-emerged how much his situation had deteriorated over the months, didn't give him or many other thousands in his position a second thought. My original post as I have said before was directed at them not the illness of one man. Yes he has issues, yes if possible I would like to think someone could act on his behalf and possible have him placed in some sort of safe environment so he could be cared for and make a full and lasting recovery and live to a ripe old age. But that doesn't stop me from thinking that a lot of people are doing the "right thing as they see it" and posting on social sites etc how they have sympathy for him, when a lot of them, in my opinion will be doing it because it seen as the right thing. They'll click "like" because it been posted by "friends" and everyone is doing it when there's good chance some of them probably had to read about or even google Paul Gascoigne to know who he is.

The people who suffer from it need help, I've said that but how the f*** will people clicking a like button help them when the next thing they'll be posting is they going to have something like banoffee pie and ice cream and that will be liked just as much. Yes may seem as if I don't care but fact is how many others actually do ??? That was my point

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Its sad to see it, Gazza seems to have hit rock bottom-the state of him I would reckon he'll not see the year out.

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The bloke interviewing him is a kunt aswell....he should never have been on stage in that condition.....18 months!!!! sadx

BTW....I can see the point Mr.Fetish was making!!!! :wink:


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I think bob needs help too judging by his last post... What the hell are you on about?


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Sadly those of us who are old enough have seen this all before with George Best.

That didn't have a happy ending. I've got a horrible feeling that may be the case with Gazza. Talented player, but played at a time when a drinking culture was rife. having friends who liked a drink or twelve didn't help either.


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The bloke interviewing him is a kunt aswell....he should never have been on stage in that condition.....18 months!!!! sadx

BTW....I can see the point Mr.Fetish was making!!!! :wink:


Agree entirely about the guy interviewing him is a twat, is that his agent?

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Sky are reporting he is to go to rehab in Arizona. I have watched that clip of Gazza, he should have never beeen allowed to go on, those around him obvioulsy hqven't a clue and allow him to be publically humiliated

. The bloke is in melt down and crying out for help, theres more to him than being an addict, he seems to have severe mental health issues as well. I hope for his sake theres a way out of this.


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Why do so many people waste their sympathy on people like this, he is an adult, he has choices, he had money, boo fuckin hoo :angry-screaming:


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Well i care and i wish him Well. But i think he is the best footballer England every produced and as such is a national treasure........so i would care.

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Well i care and i wish him Well. But i think he is the best footballer England every produced and as such is a national treasure........so i would care.


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 Post subject: Re: Gazza
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Why do so many people waste their sympathy on people like this, he is an adult, he has choices, he had money, boo fuckin hoo :angry-screaming:



Money can't cure depression as far as I was aware

Do you tell the people at choices, you know, the homeless ones, they had choices, boo fuckin hoo?


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Why do so many people waste their sympathy on people like this, he is an adult, he has choices, he had money, boo fuckin hoo :angry-screaming:



Money can't cure depression as far as I was aware

Do you tell the people at choices, you know, the homeless ones, they had choices, boo fuckin hoo?


I`m sure if they had the opportunities he has had, then yep, just for your info, I only feed the fuckers food, not support :shhh:


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Sometimes this board disgusts me, other times it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.
The overwhelming current of opinion in this thread is one of sympathy for Gazza, and acknowledgement of the serious condition he has that no one would wish on anybody let alone themselves.

And you know what; it's threads like this that make me totally fucking proud to be a Bunkerite.

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The bloke has sever mental issues (as proved by reading his autobiographies) which have undoubtedly helped lead to said drug addiction, alcoholism etc. He only gets the publicity because he's Gazza, I doubt he'd even want it anymore, so it's hardly the bloke's fault. On that basis I can't understand the "boo hoo" statements on here, unreal!


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There's little difference between Gazza and that Essex gadgie who won the lottery and blew the lot whilst busily breaking the law.

Gazza wasn't ready for what came with being a very talented and extremely well paid footballer. Clubs have realised this now but Gascoigne came before that. Kids get coached in finance and media behaviour now. To Gazza it was all live for today. He was in a very young man in the company of much older people who could take liberties and get away with them. He never could.

Cue the fury, but Barton is much the same but he seems to be getting his act together somewhat, although watch this space.


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Paul has a quick' hair of the dog 'at the airport before entering rehab..good luck gazza.


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