The Aftermath of Notts County

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:49 pm

Like todays big race at York.......the only sensible bets were the 2nd and 3rd placed horses e/way at 10/1 and 5/1 respectively ......1/10 for Frankel forget it surely.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Poker is not played against a bookie so don't see how thats relevant. IMO after reading what you have wrote you ain't ahead of the bookie. Ain't Gona lose sleep like as I generally couldn't give a shit

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:04 pm

So from a thread discussing The aftermath of Notts County we end up on a 5 page thread with discussions on poker winnings F*** Me

Anyone explain

Loid Haw-Haw of Sussex · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:25 pm

I've won over a lot of ladies losing at strip poker.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12346

Chip Fireball wrote:

He is obsessed the poor lamb, he's even got his Uncle Frank sticking up for him again.

I want Pools to win every game. I'm an adult with a brain so I accept that wont always happen. Winning a few quid when we lose helps soften the blow- If we win Im happy, if we get beat at least I console myself with the fact I got some financial recompense. Its a sort of insurance policy, though having said that I've historically backed us to win a lot more times than Ive backed us to lose.

Backing Pools to lose doesnt mean I want them to lose, at least not when the sum involved is £30 ffs. I just paid £1500 tax and national insurance on this months payslip, so right now 30 bar really isnt something major.

Boasting ? No simply pointing out the result was one I expected. We lost away from home to a better team- you know what ? That sort of thing happens. Im pretty philosophical about it. There's another game Saturday, one we have more chance of winning.

As for Stevenage away, Mr Birthmark did indeed sing an anti Nish song, he also spent a not inconsiderable time shouting abuse at him. Did he offer to bat two people- yes he did. That is factually correct because I saw it happen and lots of other people did. Thats not " Chipworld " it's the real world.

Fair play the lad was worse the wear for drink, and we've all made a tit of ourselves from time to time. But I genuinely think a lot of the subtle humour on this board goes right over his head. Honestly, I just dont think he gets it.

I'd quite happily chat to the bloke if I saw him, as I think he knows, but I reckon fornow I should just do what a lot of others have done and stick him on the ignore list.

I also think myself and Mister B disagree ( politely ) about a lot of things- the S.Howard signing for instance.

I'm not backing anybody up, Chip. I can also assure you that no one is getting me to back them up.
I have never backed any team to beat Pools.
However I agree with you that if the odds were so ridiculously high then I would, without a shadow of a doubt.
If you are offering 100-1 Pools to get beat on Saturday then I'll have a quid on with you.
If Orient win then I'll donate me winnings to the youth development fund.
Are we on ?

On betting in general..............I lay on betfair and have done for years. Just pick a donkey a day and lay it. Start with a grand and lay to win a tenner, two grand and lay to win twenty etc etc. Easy money.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

That means foook all to me.
Show us your assets and then we can leave it at that.
Assets I mean, car, house, etc because I only ever see you on a mountain bike!
Or is all this cash buried at the bottom of your nanas back garden!!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Chip, somehow i never clicked on that was you on betfair forum!

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

The Ghost of Sussex07 wrote:

I've won over a lot of ladies losing at strip poker.

Sussex chicks love a big foooking beer belly :laugh:

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Chip Fireball wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Poker is not played against a bookie so don't see how thats relevant. IMO after reading what you have wrote you ain't ahead of the bookie. Ain't Gona lose sleep like as I generally couldn't give a shit

I posted the poker winnings cos like I said its publicy recorded and it shows I'm not talking out of the back of my head. I have no reason to lie, what would be the point, hell theres a million and one things I'm shit at - swimming for starters. Poker/sports betting is just something I have a reasonable competence at.

Like I said, its pointless having any kind of discussion with you, even if I posted my profit and loss you wouldnt believe me. I could refer you to tipping threads on forums where Ive proved myself, but again not likely to sink in.

http://community.betfair.com/poker/go/t ... pster?pg=7

The thing is, I actually seek out people who are better than me at something and ask for their advice and opinion. You dont because you assume you know it all, and anyone whose opinion is different is a 'lovely lovely person'/knob/prick/whatever.

You were probably the same at school when people were trying to educate
you and teach you some manners, talking when you should have been listening.

How do i assume I know it all, u said I was a betting mug and i agreed. Hardly the response of some1 who knows it all.

I'll ask 1 question... If your so successful at gambling then why the fuck do you live in a council house, surely a man of such wealth would have his own gaff

kitch1987 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:23 pm **Posts:** 272

To be fair, chip paid for our last round of golf, which I won by the way....

Lord_of_Stranton · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm **Posts:** 1852

Yeah Chip, get your assets out for the lads.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Keep bragging like this chip n I'll get you to pay more for your water bills

pittingtonone · **Joined:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:03 pm **Posts:** 130

Not like you chip to be talking about yourself football, gambling or your education. What a bore!

tupling's barber · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:47 pm **Posts:** 250

Chip,

totally agree with your logic on when to bet & not. Emotion shouldn't come into it but claiming HB when you're rolling in coin. Tut Tut.

One of the Darlow Poolies I know funds his lifestyle through betting without resorting to claiming any public funds!

As en ex-bookie I know he would concur- if the odds look good & that means betting against Pools then do so. If you're wrong your team has done ok. If you're right you're quids in.
He's even made money out of how many times Monkhouse would get booked & when. A sad indictment of our petulant w(h)inger but utterly predictable. Easy odds brings in most of the cash.

Suggest next time you deal with local government put every communication in writing. You gambled on them being competent. Bad call!

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

Wow.

This descended into chaos didn't it?

codheads · **Joined:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:20 pm **Posts:** 580

Gambling is a mugs game fact and there is only one winner in the long run and we all know who that is

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

The devil?

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:15 pm

codheads wrote:

Gambling is a mugs game fact and there is only one winner in the long run and we all know who that is

We do, Chip Fireball.

codheads · **Joined:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:20 pm **Posts:** 580

PJ_Poolie wrote:

codheads wrote:

Gambling is a mugs game fact and there is only one winner in the long run and we all know who that is

We do, Chip Fireball.

yes mate and a lot of gamblers are full of shit fact stpid

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

Why are people having to justify themselves on a board that should be discussing football matters and, at best, the odd frivolous talk about pop culture or tv.

This is amazing.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:27 pm

When I see a thread has descended into 5 pages... I always have a funny feeling who the main contributors are

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

You ever use flat stats chip?

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:42 pm

It's a decent read this one... for a change. I must admit I do like a bet but I can say I have only bet on pools to loose once and it was a few seasons ago away to Swindon...and we won! and it put me off betting against Pools ever since.. as everytime I seem to bet on Pools to win we loose. So blame me for the recent form :razz:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Tis a very good website (well the message board is, basically people pay for the service of a monstrous amount of stats) but the best posters post on the free message board. A guy called jth especially focusses solely on maidens and nurseries and how the horses female relatives count for so much despite most experts just concentrating on the male side. Quite often he gets horses up at 50/1 etc on their debut just from their breeding. Quite interesting if you like to learn.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Chip Fireball wrote:

Yeah you have to specialise, pick small areas, and try to become an expert in them. Its the only way to get an edge, especially if you are going against the herd.

I used to concentrate on two year old races when I worked on course. Never liked the flat much, but loved two year old races.

Yeah it just 2 year old races he does, something i always looked past as no form etc but i just follow him and do ok. Some very intelligent people on there.

verbalkint · **Joined:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:08 pm **Posts:** 3135

[quote="Chip Fireball"]For the benefit of Compo, who is bound to ask , when you watch a horse race on television, there is obviously a delay between what someone is happening live at the track, and what you see on your screen.

On Betfair every horse race can be traded in running, which means right up until the point the horses cross the line you can trade on it by either backing or laying a horse.

Obviously if you back a horse in your living room during the race the reality is that it might already have fallen due to the time delay.

The people trading out of a betting exchange were using fast pics, a virtual live feed from the track, which gave them a 3 or 4 second or so advantage over the living room punters. Not a huge amount of time, but enough for them to hoover up bets on horses that fell.

Isnt that what them 2 chinese people where doing up Newcastle when they got brutally killed

for what its worth i know Chip has his faults but he does talk sense sometimes and i think he can tie people in knots on here when it comes to betting

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:54 pm

I remember a Pools game a few years ago in the paint pot or whatever it was called at the time were two Chinese looking lads were in front of us on the phone for the entire 90 minutes. I don't think they were from the Beijing branch of the supporters club to be fair!

Jonny · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

For the benefit of Compo, who is bound to ask , when you watch a horse race on television, there is obviously a delay between what someone is happening live at the track, and what you see on your screen.

On Betfair every horse race can be traded in running, which means right up until the point the horses cross the line you can trade on it by either backing or laying a horse.

Obviously if you back a horse in your living room during the race the reality is that it might already have fallen due to the time delay.

The people trading out of a betting exchange were using fast pics, a virtual live feed from the track, which gave them a 3 or 4 second or so advantage over the living room punters. Not a huge amount of time, but enough for them to hoover up bets on horses that fell.

Immoral- possibly. Profitable- highly, especially if you got fast fingers and balls of steel.

Don't people still do that using tools like BetAngel? Or back a horse that is likely to lead or be in contention and green it out before the business end of the race...?

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Just for once I am so pleased to be able to say I have no idea what the fook you lot are now talking about on this thread. Havent been in a betting shop for years, and wouldnt have a clue what to do.

I actualy hate hose racing. Cant stand it.

Grandstand was better than World of sport as it had less horse racing on....oh and wrestling.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

What's hose racing

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

What's a horse?

parmo · **Posted:** Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:39 am

where am I?

Lord_of_Stranton · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm **Posts:** 1852

Rochdale.

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

What's a Rochdale?

mouldy old dough · **Posted:** Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:17 am

Look at Frankel yesterday up against the same horses it has marmarduked the last 10 times.
great animal but not worth watching.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:33 am

My next door neighbour is a bookie and was at York yesterday, said people weren't ever both betting on Frankel. He lost £70 on that race though

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

mouldy old dough wrote:

Look at Frankel yesterday up against the same horses it has marmarduked the last 10 times.
great animal but not worth watching.

Same horses??? Blatent lie

pittingtonone · **Joined:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:03 pm **Posts:** 130

There is no maybe chip! For me sitting on the bog passing sometime but please inform me regards some football match you have played lately or something you bought that was quite expensive. Please

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

Can we rename this the "Equine Thread" ?

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

You're the one doing the bragging. For what it's worth I think you're full of shit but if you have got substantial wedges stashed away then fair play to yer!

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12346

The Lightning Tree wrote:

You're the one doing the bragging. For what it's worth I think you're full of shit but if you have got substantial wedges stashed away then fair play to yer!

doubledecker · **Joined:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:52 pm **Posts:** 497

I think a few people are missing Chip's point on the betting.
It's not free money, its hard work and a job in itself..and a full time one at that, to play poker and be really good at it or to be able to make money from betting takes a tremendous amount of hard work, its not some god given talent and 'free money' in most cases.
If it wa sthat easy and people were so good at it Chip wouldnt work he would gamble full time an dmake more money that way....turning a profit and making a good living are 2 different things.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12346

It is extremely boring. I have had reasonable success at laying ( no Mr R, not that one :laugh:

) but it does bore the breeches off me and I couldn't do it for a living.
I get far more buzz out of having a day at the races backing horses than I ever have laying them.
The secret is to have a certain amount in your pocket allocated to betting, which you are prepared to lose, and count any returns as a bonus. Then you will enjoy it.
If you start to depend on winning and therefore put money on that you really can't afford then the trouble starts.

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:35 am

I have a bet every week on the goals, goals, goals and footy coupon, i loose more than I win it just makes watching Jeff and co on sky sports more enjoyable.

I sometimes bet on the horses when can be arsed to go to the bookies and got to the dogs at Peterbrough every couple of months as its dirt cheap for a night out.

If you always know how much you can afford to bet thats what makes it fun.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:38 am

I'm the same.. I have a limit of £10 per week which I can afford to lose. Usually £5 for the Saturday and then £5 for the Sunday match which does make it a bit more enjoyable whilst watching it at the pub.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Dont bet nowt in the bookies never will.

Do sweeps with the footy lads whilst there is a big game on, yaya toure win me £35 last season with a goal at newcastle.

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:40 pm

Another betting story regarding granny putting a bet on her grandson to win an olympic medal;

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/wor ... mr_eB4#_=_

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:13 pm

The Bunker at its very best!!!! clappp

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