The Aftermath of Notts County

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

The Lightning Tree wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Explain what keeps horwoods place at left back?

Maybe because we don't have a half decent left back on the books. I could probably say the same about Austin, is Holden as good. Possibly worth a try if Austin is still injured.
Maybe also worth putting Baldwin in at centre back!

You do know Holden is a left back don't you??

doubledecker · **Joined:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:52 pm **Posts:** 497

I read Cooper saying he wasn't going to give people trials as he had seen them all play.
He then signed walton and by the sounds of it did so on the recommendation of others as he hadn't seen him himself...surely I must have mis-read?

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Walton and Sweeney in a 442 = defeat

A just hope copper realises that. Both were awful tonight. So far away from each other on the few occasion they had the ball!! Defo does not work. Murray surely will finally get a start at orient

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

I as always took pools to win.

Very poor attempt at whatever that was by the way!

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:54 am

The Lightning Tree wrote:

. I'm just hoping Walton comes good and maybe by playing Murray alongside him his game might improve.

Based on tonight (and remember I praised him after the friendly games), Walton couldn't improve alongside Iniesta, Fabregas, Silva and Ronaldo, couldn't pass the ball never mind make a tackle.

Ratings

Flinders 5 simply because he couldn't be blamed for goals
Baldwin 5 not a right back but at least never give in
Collins 3 God give him vocal chords why doesn't he use them as captain
Hartley 2 if it wasn't so bad I would laugh, think it was him who said it, at fault for first goal
Horwood 3 head like a 50p piece at times don't think anyone in ground knew where ball was going and couldn't pass it at all

Monkhouse 4 if you consider yourself a winger try taking a man on
Walton 1 enough said and rightly took off
Sweeney 3 non existent
Franks 5 at least tries

Howard 3 no supply and body language didn't look right in first half, maybe because he was soaked but so was everyone else and no excuse
Poole 2 didn't do anything of note

Murray 6 at least did basics and did help improve things slightly
Luscombe 5 made only decisive pass we played all night just after coming on

They managed to do something no Pools team have done to me in over 35 years of serious travelling to away games and that is to make my mind up not to go to Orient 4 days before the game due to be played. It a bank Holiday weekend and I'm having some chill time. I don't need to pay good money to be served dross like that

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

**this is not aimed at Fetish Bob**

Let me see if I have got this right. Most on saturday thought it was a decent game and a decent performance, and were happy with the tactics etc....except maybe the last 15 minutes, which I commented on, and noted my concerns about the perceived long ball game.

One game on, and now you all think we are shite, hump it long, and have midfielders who cant pass wind?

What a difference one game makes eh?

Can I suggest something?

Now, more than ever, the team and manager needs support. I trust two games into the season those on this thread are not already loking for the new scapegoat........well you cant blame Nish anymore.

I am giving it four weeks, before either Walton or Horwood are the next hounded out.

motopool · **Joined:** Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:30 pm **Posts:** 62

Whether you trust Cooper or not, uncle Ken has the final say and the clock is ticking. I was at the Crewe game and can I say the disapointment comes from not so much on being beaten, but how you are beaten.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

The Lightning Tree wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

Explain what keeps horwoods place at left back?

Maybe because we don't have a half decent left back on the books. I could probably say the same about Austin, is Holden as good. Possibly worth a try if Austin is still injured.
Maybe also worth putting Baldwin in at centre back!

You do know Holden is a left back don't you??

Sorry i meant Rowbotham :laugh:

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

I'd play both. Was quite shocked to see baldwin as a right back last night but his average performance was 1 of the better 1s. Cooper must realise what's wrong and very quickly or well have uncle ken wielding yet another axe.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

motopool wrote:

Whether you trust Cooper or not, uncle Ken has the final say and the clock is ticking. I was at the Crewe game and can I say the disapointment comes from not so much on being beaten, but how you are beaten.

Exactly. I was shot down to fuck because I predicted this after the Newcastle game. The way we defended in those opening stages were a joke. In 3 games that count we've had 1 shot that troubled a keeper and hit the post. We are being battered in the middle of the park comprehensively each game. No bite at all. Apart from minute 45-65 v Swindon we've been played off the park. Players playing out of position and tactics that are clearly wrong it's as if wadsworth is back in charge. Walton so far hasn't been the player i was expecting and is somehow keeping Murray out the team. Holden must be given a chance at left back. I have faith in cooper but ffs I just wish he'd wield the axe and drop some players or and bring some talent in before it's too late. Yes it's a long season but the signs are there now and if we don't act upon them I dread to think the position well be in come Xmas.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

MadJohn wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

I as always took pools to win.

Very poor attempt at whatever that was by the way!

Whatever what was? Have you ever made just the slightest effort to lighten up? Trust me, it would do you good.

Lighten up, after watching that? I'm sorry i fail to see the funny side in
My team getting battered and then supposed fans bragging that they made a few quid out of pools misery. Dont see the funny side at all

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Maybe but rowbotham has played for the 1st team at right back and did ok. Baldwin isn't a right back either. Do we even have another actual right back on the books

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

IMO a fan wouldn't bet on there team to lose and Certainly not boast that they had won.

I'm no angel and have shouted shit at players which is wrong but I could never bet on pools to lose. I just think that's very wrong.

And before the comparisons begin shouting a 4 or 5 second anti nish song in the heat of the moment whilst pissed is hardly the same as betting and wanting your 'supposed' team to lose

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:15 am

That's like saying you would never predict pools to get beat. Bit silly really.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Predicting isn't the same as betting on us to lose. Also bragging about it isn't the same either unless your a 'chip sheep' then of course it's the same

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

MadJohn wrote:

I'm sure others would have opinions on the worth of a fan who would slag off his own players on the pitch, and offer to fight people who disagreed. We're all different, we're all fans.

In 'chipworld' that's how it happened but in the real world it was slightly different!!

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:23 am

I would never bet on Pools to lose, then again I wouldn't judge anyone who did. Meh.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12346

misterb2001 wrote:

That's like saying you would never predict pools to get beat. Bit silly really.

I don't agree.
I have predicted Pools to get beat but I have never wanted them to get beat. Backing against them is wanting them to get beat.
End of.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:34 am

No it's not, it's being confident enough in your prediction that the said event will happen.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Because it was chip who originally wrote it on here and it's chip who constantly brings up the day. So using his name has quite alot of relevance really.

I'm obsessed, look in the mirror pal. Your the 1 getting yourself worked up over him and mister b being sheep number 1 has had a brown tounge for quite some time. This thread is a prime example of that.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:49 am

Wind your neck in and grow up mate.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

You're picking up 6k a month from your job

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:57 am

We certainly do chip. Shit I just agreed with you.

Baaa, Baaaaa etc etc.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:58 am

The Lightning Tree wrote:

You're picking up 6k a month from your job

Not if he's only paying 1.5k tax and NI he isn't.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Sorry so he must be on more!!
I thought he worked in a call centre?
What call centres pay that sort of dosh!!

Compo · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:04 pm

The Lightning Tree wrote:

Sorry so he must be on more!!
I thought he worked in a call centre?
What call centres pay that sort of dosh!!

Sex lines.

yloop · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:06 pm

Some of the agents at the call centre I work in come out with 3k a month, when a big phone launches they can easily double that. Saying that, I'm glad I'm not on the phones, the risk of not earning bonus and coming out with the base wage would be too much of a risk. Fair play to Chip if he's getting that kind of coin.

yloop · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:09 pm

Anyway... back to the topic: Cooper, stop talking about it, just sort it out. Thanks.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:10 pm

The Lightning Tree wrote:

Sorry so he must be on more!!

No.

If he was on £6k a month gross then he'd be paying more than £1.5k tax and NI.

Therefore if he was on more than £6k a month gross he'd be paying even more than £1.5k tax and NI, not less! :laugh:

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Chip Fireball wrote:

Yr maths isnt great Mr LT.

Call centre ? I have a phone on my desk where I sometimes work. Ive also got one at home where I sometimes work. Dont recall either of them of them ringing, but if they did I'd be about 50/1 to answer it.

I've got a phone on my desk but I don't use it for anything other than work! As in the job I'm paid for!!!

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Chip Fireball wrote:

yloop wrote:

Some of the agents at the call centre I work in come out with 3k a month, when a big phone launches they can easily double that. Saying that, I'm glad I'm not on the phones, the risk of not earning bonus and coming out with the base wage would be too much of a risk. Fair play to Chip if he's getting that kind of coin.

One of my mates works on retentions for Npower, never done an hours overtime in his life, but always earnt between 25-30k a year. In fact one year he earnt that and he got a brand new Mini.

Its a myth that everyone working in a call centre is on buttons. Most managers in the decent ones are probably earning close to 30K a year I reckon.

Our lass also works there and she picks up an average of 1100 a month with commission
Maybe she's just shit at her job!!

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Sounds like it, when our lass works n isnt off on maternity leave she can get £200 commission at npower on a bad month very easily.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Well apparently it's changed a lot recently, targets harder to hit etc..
Well so she tells me!
Mind, some of these call centre staff deserve a decent wage, must be soul destroying sitting at your desk, calling people up only for them to tell you to foook off.
I did part time at Garlands in 1999 and that was bad enough!!

yloop · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:39 pm

Outbound's a different kettle of fish, especially cold calling. Couldn't do that in a million years.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Chip Fireball wrote:

He is obsessed the poor lamb, he's even got his Uncle Frank sticking up for him again.

I want Pools to win every game. I'm an adult with a brain so I accept that wont always happen. Winning a few quid when we lose helps soften the blow- If we win Im happy, if we get beat at least I console myself with the fact I got some financial recompense. Its a sort of insurance policy, though having said that I've historically backed us to win a lot more times than Ive backed us to lose.

Backing Pools to lose doesnt mean I want them to lose, at least not when the sum involved is £30 ffs. I just paid £1500 tax and national insurance on this months payslip, so right now 30 bar really isnt something major.

Boasting ? No simply pointing out the result was one I expected. We lost away from home to a better team- you know what ? That sort of thing happens. Im pretty philosophical about it. There's another game Saturday, one we have more chance of winning.

As for Stevenage away, Mr Birthmark did indeed sing an anti Nish song, he also spent a not inconsiderable time shouting abuse at him. Did he offer to bat two people- yes he did. That is factually correct because I saw it happen and lots of other people did. Thats not " Chipworld " it's the real world.

Fair play the lad was worse the wear for drink, and we've all made a tit of ourselves from time to time. But I genuinely think a lot of the subtle humour on this board goes right over his head. Honestly, I just dont think he gets it.

I'd quite happily chat to the bloke if I saw him, as I think he knows, but I
reckon fornow I should just do what a lot of others have done and stick him on the ignore list.

I also think myself and Mister B disagree ( politely ) about a lot of things- the S.Howard signing for instance.

Still not correct that chip is it. The 1st guy uttered the words 'you wouldnt say that to me outside' I then went to go outside but he then didn't want 2. I'd say that's more sticking up for myself than offering some1 out as you say. The 2nd guy i was out of order and apologised. You word it slightly different in chipworld.

You can cover up all you like with nonsense but the fact is you bet on pools to lose and when they did you posted the details of your bet as if it was good. Yesterday was awful. Sitting through 90 minutes of that and then whilst sick as Fuck on the way home I see you boasting about your win. Why you would post details and expect no reaction has certainly gone over your head! I love a bet as posted previous, Iv never bet on pools to lose and darlo to win and never will. Each to there own and if you think differently that's your choice but surely posting the details is wrong.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Iv backed Pools to lose or concede 2 or more in all 3 games this season.

Doesnt mean i want it to happen (although winning 3-2 would be the best result) but it means i think it will happen.

We have more knowledge of Pools than any other team, im gonna use that to my advantage whether i think we will win or lose.

jumbodabber · **Joined:** Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:35 pm **Posts:** 519

Chip's phone?

Compo · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:54 pm

I might be a bit thick here Chip but what is trading I caught a bit you were talking about the other day is it were you trade winnings or odds?

I am just being a nosey bugger really but I just wanted to find out

martin83 · **Joined:** Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:47 pm **Posts:** 570

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Iv backed Pools to lose or concede 2 or more in all 3 games this season.

Doesnt mean i want it to happen (although winning 3-2 would be the best result) but it means i think it will happen.

We have more knowledge of Pools than any other team, im gonna use that to my advantage whether i think we will win or lose.

I made quite a bit of money last year backing Pools to lose one nil at home during the horror run.

Regardless of wanting Pools to win or not money is there to be made and Pools offered a very easy way of doing that. Don't blame the fans, blame the players and coaches for allowing it to happen.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:11 pm

martin83 wrote:

I made quite a bit of money last year backing Pools to lose one nil at home during the horror run.

Regardless of wanting Pools to win or not money is there to be made and Pools offered a very easy way of doing that. Don't blame the fans, blame the players and coaches for allowing it to happen.

It's a good job that none of us are suspicious enough to think that our players might have been doing the same thing.

Rinkender · **Joined:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:36 pm **Posts:** 784

I earn about 60k give or take and my tax and NI are around
The 1500 pm mark if that helps

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

What absolute and utter bollocks you are talking. A million to 1, what a Fukn balloon you are. As Iv said chipworld isn't the real world. In the real world i havnt and never will bet against pools in a match. Talking cup winners and league winners is just stupidity as you well know.

Posting your glorious winning bet was daft and you also know that unless of course you were out to get a reaction.

dykey · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:27 pm

Usually never bother putting Pools on my coupon,but did last night. Didn't matter at the end as Chesterfield dropped me in.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

What absolute and utter bollocks you are talking. A million to 1, what a Fukn balloon you are. As Iv said chipworld isn't the real world. In the real world i havnt and never will bet against pools in a match. Talking cup winners and league winners is just stupidity as you well know.

Posting your glorious winning bet was daft and you also know that unless of course you were out to get a reaction.

If he was you've certainly given him one.

It's too easy for him.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Something i presume you would know all about!!

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I've met mr chippington many times on a football level, social level, passing in the street level, beeping in the car level, at the footy level... many levels, and he's a sound guy, what do you want me to say i hate him cos he hammers you n makes you look daft?

I have to say you have your morals in a weird place, your massivly against betting against your own team and players but you think it's acceptable to shout and chant negative songs at your own players.

Weird one that.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Obviously I'm a mug punter and so are you.

Are you really saying your ahead of the bookie??

99% of gamblers are clueless, every now and then are proved otherwise and have a good win. Not many people are ahead of the bookie, obviously pj is with his mystic meg roulette wins

Also you call people thickets on a very regular basis, hope the mods dont have double standards.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Only as a stop gap whlist out of contract. Well see!!

Also you are right i wouldn't beleive you. Probably wouldn't call you a knob over it but balloon goes without saying

Compo · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:34 pm

Didnt chip post his poker winnings on here last year, so I would say that to Richies birthmark, mr chip might have a point about winning.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Yeah he did, he does very well out of his betting/poker, balloon on not.

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