creepy gutless hypocritical sex pest ?

OR

smug horrible hypocritical sex pest ?

Should return to Sweden to fight the case against him. What's the bet if he does Uncle Sam will try to extradite him,he won't see freedom again if that happens.
Where is Shami when you need her.

Set up!!!

This smells of being quite an injustice.

He hasn't even been charged. Why the hell is someone being extradited when they haven't been charged. The Turnips could easily question him in the UK - he's offered to be questioned in the UK, but they won't.

Two woman, days after offering him their growlers despite hardly knowing him, find out that he's rogered the other, they feel like the tarts they are and so get together to try and stitch him up - that's what this is pointing to.

where the fuck do you get that from ? if the bloke is such a believer in the shining sword of truth, then why doesn't he just go to sweden and answer the allegations.

he's a fucking hypocrite, simple as that. as for ecuador, they'd sell their grandmothers to piss the US off. sweden's justice system makes our look like medieval transylvania, so what the fuck if our champion truthseeker scared of ? the 'lovely lovely person'.

Are you seriously asking why he won't return to Sweden?

Do you not read or watch news articles all the way through?

do you believe everything you're told by the media ?

No more than you do.

This bloke, after raping one of these women and around the time he raped the second one, applied for a Swedish residence permit. The normal act of a rapist.

It took 5 days for the first woman (only after speaking with the second women he raped) to go to the police. In the first three days after being raped she continued to let him stay at her place. The normal act of a rape victim.

There's nothing fishy about this at all.

The OAS are now getting involved,no doubt Hugo Chavez is getting his oar in.

The only conspiracy within this lies with the US Government.
I'm actually surprised he hasn't been bumped off by now!!

What's happens if he is given diplomatic status,can he still be arrested.

Never heard of him which team does he play for

the bloke has swanned about for fuckin years, releasing all sorts of shit that was considered classified, whether you think it should have been classified or not.

if there's nowt to the allegations, as you and he and his supporters claim, let him go to sweden and blow them out of the water.

running and claiming political asylum in the embassy of a central american country that is quite clearly a fervent critic of the US is not the action of a man convinced of his innocence.

it's way way too easy for him to claim he's going to made a political example of, and that he's afraid for his human rights. why should he be allowed to ride roughshod over the justice system of a sovereign country, and refuse to refute allegations made against him ?

if he's allowed to avoid answeing these allegations, then it makes a fuckin mockery of the judicial system here and in sweden.

There's only Ecuador willing to grant him that.
As soon as he sets foot outside of the Embassy he'll be banged up!!
They are the only country willing to take him
The rest are too scared of the Yanks!

I thought you would have taken the opportunity to have familiarised yourself more with the case, but what you've typed above suggests you haven't.

The obvious (or so I thought) reason he doesn't want to go to Sweden is because of the risk of being sent to the US. Ecuador asked the UK and Sweden for guarantees that he wouldn't be extradited to the US after any trial in Sweden and they both failed to provide guarantees. The US has told Ecuador that they are unable say what their actions would be if he goes to Sweden. This is why, rightly in my opinion, they have given him asylum.

In addition, regarding the Swedish allegations, he has offered to be questioned by them in London. Ecuador has offered to provide full access to Assange in London. This is something countries have done many times before including Sweden but Sweden, for whatever reason, won't do that this time.

Of everything I've read about this, I think this piece includes everything:

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/p ... 4809.shtml

He will be locked up for life by the US
He was releasing sensitive volatile stuff, this isn't the playground some of teh stuff he was releasing had serious implications.
whatever your opinion of what the US was doing right or wrong, and a lot of the shit they do is seriously wrong its ridiculous to expect a country just to accept what he did without some form of retaliation...this is the real world!

This is the real world?
Most of us don't have a clue about the 'real' world out there - or loads of things that happen in it.

Assange was bringing some truth, exposing hyprocrisy, standing up to the most powerful governments in the world - and for that I applaud him, and don't particularly care whether he's a smug twat or not.

Of course the US won't let him carry on doing this - and I don't believe the UK would either. Banged up for a very long time or doing a Dr David Kelly and mysteriously "comitting suicide" will be their aim.

Charges of rape are easy to bring and the allegation of rapist is amongst the worst that someone can be charged with. Without meaning any disrespect to the women involved(because I obviously can't be sure of the truth) I think the timing of the allegations are very dubious. He was and is a man the US needs to get rid of. Unfortunately he was a right old womaniser it seems and if he was set up, it was probably quite easy to do it - but they would have gone for him any way they could. Allen Stanford was another man who opposed the US. He got a huge prison sentence and the shit kicked out of him in US prisons, to the point he nearly died. Others who have comitted worse or similar crimes got off. I doubt Assange is wanting the same thing...

An allegation of rape is something that tarnishes a man for the rest of his life...whether he was guilty or not.

You will always have those that decree, "there's no smoke without fire" and that doesn't go away. You lose credibility; community support; the trust of your peers. There will always be that nagging doubt in the minds of others around you...regardless of how well they know your character.

Obviously, this is because rape is such an abhorrent crime and those who commit such a crime should be ostracised, hung out to dry or just plain hanged.

But if you want to ruin a man; if you want to make him seem less trustworthy...an accusation of rape will do that very, very easily.

I'm not saying he is innocent or guilty either way, I'm simply dubious as to the timing of this.

"The pseudo-left Socialist Alternative group has similarly refused to oppose the Swedish frame up, declaring that “the validity of these allegations [is] an issue that we can’t possibly judge.”

In Australia and internationally, the pseudo-lefts’ cowardly refusal to take a position on the allegations that have become the central mechanism of the US vendetta against Assange reflects their preoccupation with feminism and other forms of middle class identity politics. For these layers, the presumption of innocence and other basic legal principles are thrown out the window when it comes to allegations of sexual assault.

Against this line-up, working people and youth must come to the defence of Assange, and basic legal and democratic rights, mobilising against the governments that are intent on preventing any further exposure of their crimes."

yep, certainly seems totally unbiased

I much prefer that bastion of pro-US thought and staunch supporter of the British government the BBC's views and handy timeline for the woolly-headed confused amongst us.

1 September 2010
Swedish Director of Prosecution Marianne Ny says she is reopening the rape investigation against Mr Assange, eleven days after a chief prosecutor announced the arrest warrant had been dropped. Ms Ny is also head of the department that oversees prosecution of sex crimes in particular.

"There is reason to believe that a crime has been committed," she says in a statement. "Considering information available at present, my judgement is that the classification of the crime is rape."

Ms Ny says the investigation into the molestation claim will also be extended. She tells AFP that overturning another prosecutor's decision was "not an ordinary (procedure), but not so out of the ordinary either".

31 August 2010
Mr Assange is questioned by police for about an hour in Stockholm and formally told of the allegations against him, according to his lawyer at the time, Leif Silbersky. The activist denies the charges.

21 August 2010
The arrest warrant is withdrawn. "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," says one of Stockholm's chief prosecutors, Eva Finne.

Ms Rosander says the investigation into the molestation charge will continue but it is not a serious enough crime for an arrest warrant.

The lawyer for the two women, Claes Borgstrom, lodges an appeal to a special department in the public prosecutions office.

20 August 2010
The Swedish Prosecutor's Office issues an arrest warrant for Julian Assange. Karin Rosander, head of communications, says there are two separate allegations - one of rape and one of molestation.

Both women reportedly say that what started as consensual sex became non-consensual.

Wikileaks quotes Mr Assange as saying the accusations are "without basis" and that their appearance "at this moment is deeply disturbing". A later message on the Wikileaks Twitter feed says the group has been warned to expect "dirty tricks".

18 August 2010
Mr Assange applies for a residence permit to live and work in Sweden. He hopes to create a base for Wikileaks there, because of the country's laws protecting whistle-blowers.

17 August 2010
Mr Assange reportedly has sex with a woman he met at the seminar on 14 August, identified as "Miss W".

Some time between 17 and 20 August, "Miss W" and "Miss A" - the woman who arranged his speaking trip - are in contact and apparently share with a journalist the concerns they have about aspects of their respective sexual encounters with Mr Assange.

14 August 2010
"Miss A" and Mr Assange attend a seminar by the Social Democrats' Brotherhood Movement on "War and the role of media", at which the Wikileaks founder is the key speaker. The two reportedly have sex that night.

11 August 2010
Julian Assange arrives in Sweden on a speaking trip partly arranged by "Miss A", a member of the Christian Association of Social Democrats. He has not met "Miss A" before but reports suggest they have arranged in advance that he can stay in her apartment while she is out of town for a few days.

What are you trying to achieve by adding the above?

Have you overlooked the order of events that were stated within the web link I posted. I didn’t add it for the opinions of the writer – I added it for the chain of events. This information is not exclusive to that site. Everything included has been reported elsewhere - it was just that site contained it all in the one article.

If you can read through that and not think there is something very iffy about the prosecution than you’re, to be frank, a bit thick.

This is the real world?
Most of us don't have a clue about the 'real' world out there - or loads of things that happen in it.

Assange was bringing some truth, exposing hyprocrisy, standing up to the most powerful governments in the world - and for that I applaud him, and don't particularly care whether he's a smug twat or not.

Of course the US won't let him carry on doing this - and I don't believe the UK would either. Banged up for a very long time or doing a Dr David Kelly and mysteriously "comitting suicide" will be their aim.

Charges of rape are easy to bring and the allegation of rapist is amongst the worst that someone can be charged with. Without meaning any disrespect to the women involved(because I obviously can't be sure of the truth) I think the timing of the allegations are very dubious. He was and is a man the US needs to get rid of. Unfortunately he was a right old womaniser it seems and if he was set up, it was probably quite easy to do it - but they would have gone for him any way they could. Allen Stanford was another man who opposed the US. He got a huge prison sentence and the shit kicked out of him in US prisons, to the point he nearly died. Others who have comitted worse or similar crimes got off. I doubt Assange is wanting the same thing...

well said

aaahhh, the last bastion of the terminally confused, the insult

Why don't the yanks and the swedes deposit a 100 billion snodgers apiece with her majesty the Queen, which will be forfeited to the UK treasury should either countries get involved in the man's extradition to the US.
That way he could go to Sweden and face the charges of rape.
He hasn't been charged, either in person or in his absence, of anything else as far as I'm aware.
The US would like to question him, well they've been offered that opportunity but like everything else, it has to be on their terms.
200 billion would put a nice dent in our deficit, cos I am convinced the US and the Swedes are colluding to get him to America.
The Americans have more to hide or answer for than anything Assange can be accused of. Bunch of bloody hypocrites.
If justice is an issue here I would like to ask........justice for who????
If I was Assange I would be staying put until ALL the cards were firmly face up on the table.
As for the Ecuadorians having a go at the yanks, I wonder where they got that idea from.

I can only have insulted you if you believe there is nothing dodgy about this. Is that what you're saying? That the actions of the Swedes are completely reasonable and proportionate and that there's no suggestion of an ulterior motive.

exactly - what better way of besmirching someone's name and discrediting them, when they are an irritation to the people in power everywhere!!

This one stinks


Mind you if he is guilty, fuck him!!

But I am of the opinion it's a set-up, and he will be found guilty regardless.

The system will judge him, and the judge in the courtroom is part of that system.


It's a good way of getting rid of him....and what odds he "commits suicide" within the next 12 months regardless