To go on trial with Swindon after he gets released from prison

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18164015



Has been discussed on here before but if a player has been sent to jail they should not be allowed anywhere near the game again, being a pro footballer is a luxurious job, the only job this guy should get is shovelling shite up in rozzy park!

I wouldnt want to be a keeper who has done that like. Get even more torture than an outfielfd player at football gounds.

As you say, shouldnt be allowed for me but I suppose there he's done his time and is now free to do as he pleases.

Disagree, he made a mistake, he was found guilty and sentenced, he's served his time.

He'll regret it for the rest of his life, but you can't stop him from returning to work.

He Killed 2 young kids and their Father.
Shocking if he is let anywhere near a football pitch.

i'm pretty sure he didn't set out to kill anyone. He did though and served his time. Hopefully he wont go down the Lee Hughes route and make out like he revels in it.

He was out of his foooking head.
If it was your own kids you'd be fuming!!

He only done half the sentance and is going into a job where he will no doubt be earning a decent wage, just I feel something very wrong with the whole thing

Very very wrong
If it was my kids i'd be waiting for him when he got out.
It wouldn't be to offer him a lift home.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7654430.stm

The idiot was drink driving and fell asleep at the wheel! Why give him 7 years when he isn't going to service it!

its the sentencing that is wrong. But by law, he's done his time and is free to do as he wishes.

I think people are missing the point. He killed 3 people and only got 7 years? That is a joke, he should be locked up for life.

I agree with that.




I agree with that.





I agree with that too.

I though he killed 2 people and massively disabled their father?

But only done 3 and a half

Seriously for the bloke to even contemplate taking up a trial with a football club shows him out to be a 'lovely lovely person'.
If Pools ever considered offering someone like him a trial i'd seriously consider giving up.

What i dont get is if he did this with a hammer he would have got more of a sentance but he did it with a car while drunk to me thats the same as a weapon.

However I am on the fence with this one as what people saying on here is that people who come out of prision should not have a job. Granted he will get a well paid one but thats not his fault same as its not his fault that he only served 3 1/2 years. He should have been put in prision for a minimum period that would have seen him have no hope of ever playing footy again, therefore removing this argument.

Agreed that the sentencing was pathetic, and the time served even more so.

Sorry you're right, I thought his father had also died.

I think its the fact that its quite a high profile, well paid job. If it was something like working with young offenders most people probably wouldn't bat an eyelid. He knows he's done wrong, he knows he's going to be abused every game yet he still wants to carry on in football.
That I can't understand.

Apart from the serving time, he's your typical footballer though isn't he, knows nothing else than kicking a pig skin around a field.

While I agree with you that (in my opinion) he shouldn't be allowed on a football field on moral grounds, and I agree that the sentencing was pathetic, is it right he should expect abuse from people for having served his time? and is he going back to football as to make it to the level he did he gained nothing from school and has no other skills?

Well what he did was reprehensible. He got a sentence, he served the sentence and justice is deemed to be done.

If he was a leckie or a plumber he'd resume his life, hopefully chastened, and no-one would bat an eyelid.

But his trade is in the public eye and people get emotional about it, because that's the way they're conditioned.

Then there's the Daily Mail.....

Plenty of people re~train, maybe something to help ex offenders or something similar, to go back to a football field where his names going to be mentioned every time he plays is foooking shocking and a massive kick in the teeth for the family who he destroyed, who every time they pick up a sports paper will see his name being mentioned.

You got kids Sprnder?

When I'm PM the folk who write comments on the DM website are all being called up to jury service permanently and most of them will serve as magistrates, the really active ones will skip to high court judge and I'll sell the rights to their hanging ceremonies to Al Jazera.

What he did was wrong but you cant say "you killed someone so you can no longer do the job you trained for all your life"

Wrong !!!
More than just wrong!
And yes that's what I'm saying!!!

Some people on here were furious over the Evans case and that he should never ever be allowed back in footy, yet this 'lovely lovely person' drove pissed despite protests from friends at the party he was at not to drive, sped down a motorway, ploughed into a family looking forward to a holiday away with their 8 and 10 year old kids, killed the two nippers, left the father disabled for life and his wife to care for him for the rest of his life.
Yeah, the poor guy has a career to think of, a big house to pay for, in fact, why don't we organise a fooooking collection for him when we play them at the vic!

As long as he gets on with his job in a quiet and humble way then I don't have a problem with it, I'd even have him at Pools. Everyone makes mistakes and I bet there's a good few on here that have driven the next morning still over the limit and not realised it. It's the same mistake at the end of the day although most will be lucky enough not to hit anyone.

I'd have forgiven Hughes if he hadn't of acted like such a bounder since getting released but he clearly has no remorse whatsoever.

Before Mr I asks, what are your thoughts on Bob Newton, LT?

Probably the same, I was only a kid when Newton was on the scene, so what if they were your two kids, would you think the same.
Wiggett got into a car with Newton and knew he was pissed, doesn't excuse it but this is 2 kids, not even reached their teens. FFS!
So, if they were your two kids, how would you feel?
Would you want to see him back playing footy?

Yrs I hv.

Although she's almost 33 now so hardly a kid. Point is, there is a place where you stop paying for what you did, and it's not sanctioned by a football message board. It's done in a court of law.

Yes but you think he should be allowed back?
Come on!!

Mate, there's nothing that says he should be deprived of his living, despite what he did. That happens where I live and the western opinion is that it's not civilised.

I don't wish him luck or owt. It's a done deal.

I don't have kids that I know about but I'd probably want to kick the fckers head in. If he showed total remorse however I'd like to think I could find it in me to forgive him enough to let him get on with his life whether he was a footballer or a shelf stacker in Tesco. It's impossible to say though, who really knows how they'd feel in such a situation given how extreme it is?

It wouldn't surpise me if McCormick doesn't bother with his comeback, as mentioned above you can't just run away from the abuse like Hughes does. When you're stood yards away from the abuse week in week out, I can imagine it soon drains all the enjoyment out of the game.

can't say i've ever seen anyone accidentally hammer someone to death!

What if yes, he goes back to playing football but spends a lot of his spare time with charities raising awareness of the dangers of drink driving and helping fundraising and the like for effected families? Would that make it ok?

Of course it wouldn't, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a job where his names going to be mentioned and bring it all back for the family he ruined.
It's the fact that he knows the abuse he'll get, yet it's like, fooook the fans, foook the family I ruined, I can still make a good living out of this.
Yes, the law is an ass, but how he can even contemplate wanting to come back to a footy field is beyond me.
As for the foooking Swindon chairman and Di Canio..

his job is completely irrelevant. He should have been sent down for longer in my opinion, but thats the laws fault.

Drink drive rules in general are stupidly weak. What deterrent is a bit of a fine and a 12 month ban? The majority can survive without a car for a year and the fine can be paid for with saved car running costs.

Is McCormick's offence any worse than any other drink driver? Just because you get lucky and don't wipe anyone out, does that mean you should be spared a custodial sentence?

You're talking about the intent aren't you, at least I hope you are.

intent? No?

I'm saying why should others who drink drive (many far drunker than McCormick) not receive harsh penalties purely because they were lucky enough not to injure anyone. It's all the same offence, some just get very lucky whilst others are families like the victims of this one.

Yes but its the end result surely whats the biggest concern. Honest, you talk some absolute garbage sometimes.

If my irresponsibility, wrecklessness and stupidity ever killed some kids i'd never show my face in public again, and probably top myself because i cant imagine how you could live with that.

What a load of shite. Did he intentionally set out to kill two and injure a third person?

Because he made one mistake he should be deprived of making a living for himself?

For all we know he could have been a massive fundraiser for charities and helped thousands of people.

I know that it is horrible for the family and I can see why people might think it is a constant reminder to the family but he has done his time that they deemed fit and now he has to rebuild his life.

What would stop him coming out of prison, retraining as a joiner, setting up his own company as successful as say, Gus Robinson and his name and company being mentioned in the local paper constantly. Surely that is also a reminder to the family?

Is he to just sit on the dole and get abused for being lazy?

I am sure you would manage

Loads of people in the public eye have committed crimes & then having served their time continued to live their lives back in the public eye again, McCormick will be no different. I suspect we will be having a similar discussion in a few years when Ched Evans is released as he will return to playing football.

And so he should. If we stop them playing football in the future then we are ruining his life

All I'm saying is it's possible for someone to be a repeat drink driver, deliberately take the car out on a Saturday night every week for 5 years and drive three times over the limit and by more luck than judgement never kills anyone. One day they get caught and get a 12 months ban and a measly fine. Then you get a case like McCormick who was twice over the limit and fell asleep and the effects were disastorous. Should driver 1 get away so cheaply because he got lucky or should both get the book thrown at them extremely harshly? There was no intent in either driver, the only difference is pure luck/bad luck. If that means I'm talking garbage then so be it, but it's the way the law works.

Regarding your second point, I would probably feel the same and I bet there are plenty of of people behind bars feeling such emotion.

He's served the time. He's been punished for the 'crime' in law only.
2 kids died though. The law doesn't cover scenarios like that, never has and never will because it's just words on bits of paper stuffed into in a statute book somewhere.

The parents and family will suffer the lifetime of burden and misery that some pissed-up arsehole inflicted on them when he got behind the wheel of his car.
Thats the human side of what happened and my heart goes out to those poor fuckers who were robbed of watching those kids grow up.

McCormick shouldn't even be thinking of returning to professional football. Just as a mark of fucking respect to the kids who died and those left behind, he should be doing something out of the public eye like charity work and keeping his head down for the rest of his life.
Some 'crimes' are beyond forgiveness (whatever the fuck that jumped up, bible-bashing bollocks word actually means) and the perpetrator in cases like this one should never be heard of again.

The intent was there, he was pissed up.
Apparently there were photos of him recently in the paper on day release for his son's birthday accompanied by an interview with the parents of the boys that died and how they felt about it.
Not only have they had to face life without their two boys, the father is paralysed and needs round the clock care. How the fuck do you move on from something like that, especially when the person who caused it can now seemingly pick up where he left off? Oh and he's got a son to enjoy now, something he took from them twice over.
If he had any remorse he'd be keeping a low profile and certainly not trying to find a new club the minute he's released. I'm disgusted tbh.

Difference is he is going into a well paid job and in the public domain week in week out, yes he is going to be racked up with guilt but given the chance of being a professional footballer is a dream come true, he messed up and shouldn't be given a second chance in the game. Thousands and thousands of youth players graft every day trying to become a pro footballer, this guy had his chance, cocked up and went to jail, now he is getting released and walking back into the game.

I also blame the justice system, serving 3 and a half years is a joke, he drove knowingly drunk and ended the lives of 3 people, yes only 2 died but 1 is paralysed 24 hour care, his life will never be the same.