People who use a mobile whilst driving ARE bounders though dibbs

apparantly if you sneeze whilst driving and have a crash you aint to blame cos you weren't in control of the car


could have been wound up like, but its what i got told....

Old news

This has been the case for three years

Because you're still mostly concentrating on the road. The stats prove that it's a dangerous business being on the phone, and that includes a hands free. It's not like driving and talking to a passenger. When you come to a junction, the passenger knows what's happening and accepts your silence; a person on the end of the phone is not sharing the same space and so you don't disengage with the conversation at important points.

Why should random drugs and drinks tests be an issue though Dibbs?

If you've got nowt to hide....

how many times have you ever been randomly stopped?

there really aren't many police around on the roads and that. they're all in the office filling out forms.

just do what you want whilst driving, as long as there's no coppers about, and don't drive stupidly cos crashing is bad.

they will make time coz it will be fun for them...like speed traps....

you'll be running a few mins late for work or be on the way home in a bit of a rush to take the kids training and around the corner will be a road block with a coppper guiding everyone, through a breath test blockade....

why because less than 10% of drivers break that law 90% will suffer.....

how long before every person has to have a drug & alchol test monthly, to stamp out the druggies?

I dont see how fewer people will be done for speeding,the police dont do anyone for speeding now the cameras take care of it all.

Apparently hands free can also lead to prosecution because you are potentially driving without due care and attention.

Park your cars up lads and take to public transport!!

Oh you can't. It's shit, slow and doesn't go where you want......

I dont think its right for anyone to get into a car pissed and spliffed upto the eyeballs, so if random stop checks stop this fair do's

It's good and valid point Talbot, but don't you think there might be bigger issues that we'd have the police pursuing?? Maybe there's a little too much attention given to the motorist and less to say, people conning pensioners, burglary, criminal damage to property, assaults, rapes etc. If course these don't raise revenue do they??

Every Christmas the Police stop and breathalyse thousands of motorists and get very poor returns for the effort.

On the nail head PoolieKev. It's just a fecking soundbite that makes it look like they are doing 'good'. Personally, make it safer for oldies in the street, stop corperation fraud, add to the list at will.

Driving whilst tired, in an emotional state, late, ill are all as dangerous as using a mobile safely. As for being wasted, trying to phone and look at skirt on the street at the same time - dull.

Oh crap - I've just realised I am slowly turning into Clarkson. Must seek help, now .....

They're already onto that one, in Notts and Derbys last year they were breathalysing on the way into work in the mornings in case you'd been to the works do the night before. Now that patently isn't the arsehole who takes his car to the pub drinks his fill and drives home regardless, this is normally law abiding people who might just not have left a big enough gap, maybe skipped breakfast etc.......

all it does is creates more resentment towards the police which in turn makes real crimes harder to deal with - it's harder to find out facts when no-one respects you. It's a downward spiral and the authorities are stupid for not realising it.

I personally don't respect anyone who chooses to join the police in this day and age.

I never use my mobile while driving, I usually have very precious cargo in the car, and I'd like every other person on the road to be that considerate but unfortunately they aren't.While driving to Stockport the other week had an idiot sitting in the middle lane going no where blocking all the traffic while he had a nice chat on his mobile.

Anyone caught using one or over the limit or on drugs should be banned for life!!

Girls can't drive anyway.

Or run, or throw, or kick a ball.

Put two women in a car and tell me that the driver is paying full attention. You normally see two perfect profiles through the back screen.

Right chaps??

I'm a very good driver, I've only had 2 accidents in 14 years both caused by MEN!, I get cheaper car insurance too

any drugs? any amount?

it's extremely hard to quantify what has an adverse affect on driving and what doesn't. for instance it's not hard to dig up numerous scientific tests which conclude cannabis actually improves driving.

and roadside testing is a whole other matter. with many drugs it's impossible.

do only illegal drugs count? there are many people driving round completely enthralled by legal, prescribed drugs.

it's a complete minefield

to be honest you know yourself wether you are fit to drive, I wouldn't risk it if I thought I wasn't. I couldn't live with the guilt if I killed somebody's child through being unfit to drive.Personally I've never had a drink and got in my car to drive, if I'm driving I have coke. I'm a bit old for illegal drugs now, but If I have to take prescription ones that say do not drive then I don't

it's simple - we all see the sort of things the police have to do... to choose to do it as a career you need to either agree with it or have no integrity - either way you've lost my respect.

i'd say the same for the army as well, unfortunately. We've all seen what they've been made to do, and the causes they are now dying for. Anyone who chooses to go down that path has lost my respect - it's only the free will of all these young lads that allows governments to do what they do. They'd be stuffed if suddenly they had no-one left to send off to their immoral wars.

Travel? discipline? cammeraderie? i can easily do all that off my own back, thanks, I don't need to sign up with a nut-job government and do everything they say.

Surely good drivers don't have ANY accidents?? In my experience women don't have as many accidents but oddly enough, they surely see a lot.......

I have personally witnessed women applying make-up whilst driving, veering across three lanes whilst reading a road atlas propped on the steering wheel, turned 180 degrees and remonstrating with children in the back, using the dreaded mobile phone and the full gamut of road borne crime. Women drink and drug drive too. This isn't what the debate is about. It's about Policing. Do try and concentrate........

And also keep a ready supply of oil to the West, but dont let that cloud any issue

Are you a student Nick?

Last week on my way to the Sunderland office I passed a young lad driving with his mobile to his ear and his arm resting on the window, his left hand was holding a can of coke, this is on the A19...(peugot, R**SAV, if your reading this your a prik)

The very same stretch where, a few months earlier I got a ticking off from a bell end of a bobby, my crime?

driving 65 MPH through roaddworks which weren't there yet!!! stupid stupid

Judging by his spelling of 'camaraderie', he could well be!

So basically what Dibble is saying is...... 'I DON'T MIND LAWS, EXCEPT THE ONES THAT MAY APPLY TO ME' ....... You sound like my uncle going on about the breathalyser when that came out ..... "what's the country coming to when a bloke can't have a few drinks and drive his car wothout some facist stopping me ..... I fought a war against people like that...etc etc etc "

I left uni last year.

Looking into going back though - can't handle this 'real world' guff!

does it detract from my point, like?

To disagree with the existance of the Police and the armed forces is sheer lunacy! No Police means anarchy; your sister gets raped and there's no comeback except personally killing them which would then motivate someone coming round and killing you etc etc. An extreme example but its an extreme conversation.

No armed forces? tell that to all the countries that were subject to an armed agressor in the past although I agree we should not be in Iraq.

Nothing to do with their existance. Anarchy would have it's benefits, but the sort of careers and incentives on offer means that there will always be a steady stream of fascists, nutters and losers willing to join up.

If people took a stand and stopped enrolling on principle, then they'd soon have to address the way the go about their work.

It won't be necessary though. there's always those who see the police and military as a valid path to respect and esteem. Unfortunately for them, there's no respect to be gained by blindly following orders set by those with misguided, unclear or just plain unethical objectives. Sorry.

Give over, how the feck would anarchy would have any benefits

Soooo when a group of soap dodging, never paid tax and stamp, come busting down your door, you will be the one cowering in the corner hoping for some police or army intervention

...your 'theory' has the depth of a car park puddle.

Aye thats right, for example my uncle has blindly followed orders for over thirty years after leaving school with little or no qualifications and has seen him serve in NI, The falklands, Central America and Germany to name a few

In addition in order to gain respect, he then felt the need to join the fuzz, become a police marksman, earn a very good living, retire at fifty and now train police all over the middle east, including Iraq, Oman and Saudi

I bet he wish he followed YOUR credo

Dibble's intoxicated with his own moral outrage .....

I bet he reads the Daily Mail, a paper which makes Hitler seem like a leftie

is the fault not with the people that produce these "everyone wants one" items
i have a mobile phone i dont know how to work it when sitting in a chair never mind driving a car
they should be outlawed
anyone with a phone in hand in a vehicle should be banned

If Britain hadn't repealed the "suss" law* the cops could happily go round bothering anyone they didn't like the look of, or knew was up to no good due to previous encounters. These days they need 2001 more stupid laws to achieve the same ends, and still manage to get up normal people's noses!




* suss = suspicion. If cops thought you were 'acting suspiciously' (definition never required once they'd stopped the car, as everyone looks as guilty as hell when a cop turns up) they could stop and interrogate you, interfering with whatever you were doing, searching you and taking you down the nick if they felt like it.

it's brilliant living in Britain. When are we all going to be microchipped to track our movements? i can't wait.................

..... they want to track your car, there's no money in tracking you, your car is more important than you.

No, not at all....it's just that....well......i'm not sure exactly what your point IS

And the part about anarchy having its benefits...words fail me

spoken like a true student

I wouldn't trust a policeman to tell me the right time of day.

Heres an idea, lets completely do away with the police force, we'll be fine!!







Wont we?

I agree with that wholeheartedly, but it seems a long way off

Somebody told me he isnt even a bobby!!

Each time i spot him hiding behind a row of trees (seaton lane usually), i drive past at about ten miles per hour waving at the daft tw@!













That bastad caught me speeding twice in four days........on the same stretch of road..........both times in customers cars!

My boss stumped up for the cost of the fines, but i had to take the points......34 & 36 mph.....bastad!

The first time I was caught was at that junction, I had just come towards Seaton from Seal Sands way and was slowing down, for the sign at the Cricket Club. But it seems I didn't slow enough, and he was sat just beyond the junction.

A couple of months ago I was driving along Easington Road, at 29mph, and I was overtaken by the 'speed detector' van, doing at least 40, but he knew he was safe, like in the 'Weakest Link' he wasn't going to nominate himself for a fine and 3 points.

it's not a 'theory', it's my opinion on people who choose to join the army or police.

whoever's jumped to the conclusion that i want to abolish the police, please get back in your box, i've said nothing of the sort

when i say things like 'anarchy would have its benefits' don't kid yourselves that i don't know exactly what buttons i'm pressing. you'll get used to it.

Righto Sigmund