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 Post subject: The three Pools 'fans' who ran on the pitch
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:18 pm 
Should be banned from all football grounds for five years and fined £5,000. NO-ONE should ever enter the field of play and it's time to crackdown. These three 'fans' have brought shame to Hartlepool United and credit must go to Tommy Lee (the Macc keeper, not Pam Anderson's ex) for showing great composure in the face of extreme provocation. The biggest disgrace was the lack of response from the stewards. Most of them look like they are just kids who couldn't control a kids tea party. It must have been the best part of a minute before these 'fans' were tackled. Where were the police? It needs sorting - by Pools, the stewards and the police and it needs sorting NOW. Soured a great game. Shame on you. refred refred refred refred refred


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the stewards were worse than useless in dealing with it. rage rage rage


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stupid, ridiculous incident that was dealt with in the most slapstick stylee...me and Leeds Poolie have laughed ourselves into tears at the antics of the Crazy Gang steward who attempoted to get to the "Dancers", and went arse over tit! rolfl rolfl rolfl

YOU AFTER LAUGH, said LP!


Might not be lauging if the FA/FL get involved!!


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Imagine say we get deducted points cos of these arseholes and then lose the title due to the point deduction!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

THEY WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE TOWN!!!! rage rage


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It's OK laughing at the stewards but once the referee's report has gone in there could be serious repercussions for Pools 3 Questions Why did the idiots want to get on the pitch in the first place,Why did it take an age and barracking from the crowd to get the stewards to react and Why did the keeper have to try (thats what it looked like from where we where could be wrong )and get them off the pitch I would have though he would have been better off getting out of the way ??
Like whats already been said soured a tough but great game rage rage

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What clowns though....they'll more than likely be banned now and miss us going up as 'Champions'!!!! :roll: :laugh: clappp :laugh:


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only two arrested up to now


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The stewarding was very poor

Hope the dick heads get very long bans


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do i remember someting like this happening when tubby was manager
but i think we got away with it


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not a matter of getting away with it

nothing should come of it other than a suspended fine and some new stewards who arent bagheads and who dont watch the match and watch the crowd instead

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Those numptys turned 2 possibly 3 minutes of injury time into 5.Fortunately we got away with it,but we need to seriously impress on our stewards that they must do their jobs when the need arises.


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There'a a conspiracy theory about those "fans", don't you know?


Go on then C-Man!!!! :sweet: :sweet:

Worrizit???? :laugh: :laugh:


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There'a a conspiracy theory about those "fans", don't you know?


Go on then C-Man!!!! :sweet: :sweet:

Worrizit???? :laugh: :laugh:


Some say they were hired ... in an attempt to stop us from going up.

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


Nah!!! Too late in the game, not enough of 'em and not well enough organised.

When Macclesfield had their game stopped by all those balls kicked over the stand, THAT was a well organised interruption. Last night by all accounts was just boisterousness by a gang of thicketts!! :laugh: :laugh:


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I don't know of any instance of a points deduction for such a small invasion, though you never know with the FA.
What they could do and which often happens in other countries is order Pools to play n matches behind closed doors.
Work out the losses involved in that if you can.

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The potential problem is that the "fans" were able to taunt the keeper and there was a slight altercation when the keeper tried to get them off the pitch. No doubt this will be included in the referees report. The stewards should have had them off the pitch well before it happened but as has been said the stewards did absolutely nothing despite the fans screaming at them to do so.


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The whole thing was a comedy act. I'd have applauded Macclesfield's keeper if he'd twatted them one.

The stewards were a comedy act. Why did a load come from the Rink End to sort it out...5 minutes after the event...


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Everyone stop over reacting, it was funny we wont get points deducted, yes the club may get a token fine but that will be it. Christ the culture of football has changed so much, gone are the days of chucking flasks at Joe Neenan and money at the youths with their collection blanket at half time. The sanitisation of our beloved game just marches on making all forms of none conformist behaviour punnishable and worse so derided by your peers.
I bet you all laft those years ago when the Cardiff lad jump on the pitch and ran into the post, it is part of the entertainment.

People will not be happy until we are in our surgically clean anonymous all seater stadium, pinned in our allocated seats all season and not allowed to stand up, swear and sing.

As for the Stewards, what do you expect, they are not the SAS, ready at a moments notice to leap into action.
As for the injury time, it is the smae amount of time overall, what if Macc had equalised in the 90 you would have been pleased for the 5 mins extra.

Chill out and enjoy the visual comedy while we still can before we are merely veal in our crates.

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yeah it was, I am now mailing the youtube link around everyone here at work, all the prem fans think it is great and a great advert for footy how it used to be.

Get off your high horses, success makes you too serious, after 25 yrs of watching Pools the enjoyment was the key, now though we are worried about a wrist slapping from the league.
Yes we want to go up but lets not have a reality and humour bypass just to attain that goal.

Its a working class sport played and watched by working class people.

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Its a working class sport played and watched by working class people.


and drunken idiots?

Come off it the only funny thing would have been if there keeper or Incey lamped any of the 3 numptys


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So now being drunk at the footy is being shunned.

Keeper laid hands on one of them, if we were to follow the great namby pamby political correct band wagon that is causing these reactions, then they should have the keeper up for assault.

It was funny, I have seen several people this morning burst into proper laughter at the chav taunting the keeper, in all rule books that equates to be humerous.
soz n that

If you want goos sensible behaviour then go to a Rugby or Cricket match, (better sport anyway) and the players set an example at these games. Generally the players and supporters are of better breeding,
face it when the players are a bunch of cheating, foul mouthed spoil sports why do you expect the fans to be any different.

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Everyone stop over reacting, it was funny we wont get points deducted, yes the club may get a token fine but that will be it. Christ the culture of football has changed so much, gone are the days of chucking flasks at Joe Neenan and money at the youths with their collection blanket at half time. The sanitisation of our beloved game just marches on making all forms of none conformist behaviour punnishable and worse so derided by your peers.
I bet you all laft those years ago when the Cardiff lad jump on the pitch and ran into the post, it is part of the entertainment.

People will not be happy until we are in our surgically clean anonymous all seater stadium, pinned in our allocated seats all season and not allowed to stand up, swear and sing.

As for the Stewards, what do you expect, they are not the SAS, ready at a moments notice to leap into action.
As for the injury time, it is the smae amount of time overall, what if Macc had equalised in the 90 you would have been pleased for the 5 mins extra.

Chill out and enjoy the visual comedy while we still can before we are merely veal in our crates.


Very well said.

I bet there are people on here that'd be pleased if these over-excited doyles were locked up and never released, as punishment for the utter shame they brought upon the whole town, for, erm, going on a football pitch

Total over-reaction. I was laughing when it happened.

I was at that friendly against Heerenveen when the naked man ran across the pitch. He was cheered and created great merriment amongst english and dutch. Maybe if those lads last night were naked there would have been much less of a fuss.


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When fans run onto the pitch anything can happen. No one knows whether it's going to be for a celebration, a streak, or a murder.
That's why there's just one rule and it says "stay off".

Pools allowed that rule to be broken due to incompetence and can have no complaint if punishment follows.

Fans brought all this on themselves.

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So now being drunk at the footy is being shunned.


Not at all, There are rules in England that say "Keep off the pitch" it goes back for years & years why not to do it.

One "Pitch Invasion" I'll never forget is Vs Bristol in the Playoffs where every man and his dog ran onto the pitch and ran towards our end and started taunting us!

Theres also being drunk and being an idiot, Which those 3 numptys did very well...

Rules are rules, I guess if a player did a 2 footed lunge last night you'd say "Well it was a tackle at the end of the day"

These guys did run on the pitch, I dont think it would have been as bad IF they didnt taunt the keeper!

But to say its funny... Not agreeing with that at all, If you think thats funny you must be a Russel Brand fan :grin:


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Everyone stop over reacting, it was funny we wont get points deducted, yes the club may get a token fine but that will be it. Christ the culture of football has changed so much, gone are the days of chucking flasks at Joe Neenan and money at the youths with their collection blanket at half time. The sanitisation of our beloved game just marches on making all forms of none conformist behaviour punnishable and worse so derided by your peers.
I bet you all laft those years ago when the Cardiff lad jump on the pitch and ran into the post, it is part of the entertainment.

People will not be happy until we are in our surgically clean anonymous all seater stadium, pinned in our allocated seats all season and not allowed to stand up, swear and sing.

As for the Stewards, what do you expect, they are not the SAS, ready at a moments notice to leap into action.
As for the injury time, it is the smae amount of time overall, what if Macc had equalised in the 90 you would have been pleased for the 5 mins extra.

Chill out and enjoy the visual comedy while we still can before we are merely veal in our crates.


Well as you are so sure the league wont deduct points from us...........then yeh it was dead funny. :roll:

I am frequently drunk at the match. I dont ever wish to run on the pitch though.

Heres a thought for you..............if we do get points deducted (Note: I said if), will you still find it so funny?

Now this IS funny.................Ken Hodcroft thinks its hilarious that the club may be fined. No....really.

I Hope the daft bastards are banned. Now that would be funny.


That, I cant disagree with, You mentioned when people "Streak" onto the pitch, They do that for a laugh and a crack on with the crowd not to provoke an oppositions player or anything of that sort, Which 1 of the 3 lads did last night


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Yes it will still be funny,

So what if we get fined,

Ofcourse they will get banned.

Come winning the championship are you all telling me that you will not be itching to get on that pitch - or is it ok then ?

End of now anyway.

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I don't see why you can't take a more light-hearted view about it though... nothing bad happened - if anything it's finally highlighed our perpetual problem of laissez-faire stewarding (on £10 a match I doubt I would be arsed to run after people either, like) ... the fact is you can't be responsible for every single drunken rarf's antics, and in the grand scheme of things, really what impact will it have?

I'll eat humble pie if we get a massive fine or points deducted but I seriously doubt it


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put things into perspective people

anyone know the last time a club was docked points for a pitch invasion?

anyone know the biggest fine ever dished out for a 3-man pitch invasion?


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I heard a shout from the town end 'someones gonna die' when one of the macc players barged into Liddle but i think he was shouting at the ref :shock:

It was Tounge in cheek by the fan as well i hope. :grin:


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I know one of the lads who jumped onto the pitch, actually the one who confronted the keeper and he will be devastated if he is banned for a moment of over excitement but stupidity on his part.
He goes to every home game and most aways and to ban him or any of the lads would be a real shame.

I think 10 minutes in a locked dressing room with Micky Nelson would be sufficient punishment, i'm sure he'd never do it again.

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do things only become immoral when they're banned?

(paraphrasing rev. lovejoy)


Ah, the old, "does law have a moral aspect independent of the content of law"?


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do things only become immoral when they're banned?

(paraphrasing rev. lovejoy)


Ah, the old, "does law have a moral aspect independent of the content of law"?


the answer of course being 'no'


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good question Mr Marx, and one that will never be agreed upon by everyone. There will always be those who state something is "their" law, not mine!! The fact someone is born in a country and a law is "imposed" on them that they might never agree with or abide by, will always be a cause of argument. e.g. people refusing to pay the poll tax!!! Obviously we need laws otherwise there'd be anarchy, but sometimes it is understandable why some people will never go along with a principle that goes against their own !!!!!

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do things only become immoral when they're banned?

(paraphrasing rev. lovejoy)


No-one's claiming it's immoral. Just bloody stupid.

My last time on a pitch was after this game

http://www.inthemadcrowd.co.uk/cgi-bin/itmc_view_match.asp?oid=4012

:sweet:


Yeah, it was absolutely brilliant. Both sets of fans making for the centre circle and..............hand shaking, hugs, congrats. Thats how football should be clappp clappp clappp

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there were 5 minutes of added time in an injury free second half. that gives you some idea of how long it went on for.
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On the You Tube thing it lasts 20 seconds no more, like I've said elsewhere. Wrong yeah, but very very minor.


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They pulled a daft stunt that backfired on them and no doubt they're getting plenty of grief about it already, I'm in the 'lets not go overboard' side of the argument. They'll be banned undoubtedly, if not by the courts then certainly by the club and that will hurt especially when it comes to promotion celebration games.


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Come winning the championship are you all telling me that you will not be itching to get on that pitch - or is it ok then ?

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The pitch belongs to them not us.


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actually gloves it fookin doesn't

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They've featured on the Pools World highlights.


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actually gloves it fookin doesn't[/quote]

It belongs to the Council doesn't it?? Isn't that what all the fuss is about?? :roll:

Oh aye, and Dibbs!!!! There IS a specific law about being drunk in a football stadium and it carries a life ban. So shame on you, you lairy chav!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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It was an act of immature self indulgence on their part which may or may not have repercussions. They were hardly kids and is it asking too much for the field of play to be respected? According to some of our more laid back posters, the holding of bull baiting on the pitch during the match would be totally OK.. hey chill man. :roll:

P.S .....the reference to footy being a working class sport? It sounds awfully to me the inference being that the working class man is a moron without standards.

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now who was it that met the pie-man???????????????

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Heard from a good source they have both been given life bans :shock:

Who's life , i don't know :sweet:

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me too.

couldnt resist it have you seen all of the pie man pictures on google!! :laugh:

the players don't own the pitch though - i wish the club did - most of em dont even live in the town and pay our 'low' council tax

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:roll:......good this eye rolling innit...? ...... :roll:

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