Ashes

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:04 am

A sunny morning in Adelaide clappp

Come on England rolf

Broad out of the rest of the series by all accounts though :evil:

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:46 am

One more wicket, come on England!!

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:17 am

Eng-er-land! Eng-er-land! Eng-er-land!

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:26 am

Easy - Early night for a change...!

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:12 am

The Aussies got absolutely stuffed. They're nothing now.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Brilliant victory.........well done England. clappp

alleztfc · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:36 am

Taxi for Mr Ponting...

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:08 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

they can't be very good we dicked them... typical... English (and Poolie) thought process.. Couldn't see the Aussies saying this if they just dicked us!

Concurring massively that prick Piers Morgan tweeted this, this morning;

"Nothing wrong with this Aussie team that a single good bowler, batsman or fielder wouldn't improve. They're a disgrace to the baggy green."

How about how well England played, and how good a side England are. The Aussies (apart from that spinner) are a strong side and we have just slaughtered them. One of the best England performances for a long, long time if not ever.

alleztfc · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:29 pm

Piers Morgan is a prick. FACT!

Even if we win the 3 remaining tests at a canter, that was still one hell of a performance. He should stick to bumming Susan Boyle...shuddddderrr.

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:26 pm

So have england won the ashes ?

Splod · **Posted:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:53 pm

I think we would have won the fight in the car park too

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/cri ... 18o28.html

These aussies are such bad losers :laugh:

Bramstein · **Joined:** Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm **Posts:** 1526

A superb win.

Beating Australia like this in a test match, in Australia, after years of experiencing pummelling after pummelling is very sweet indeed.

I hope they dish out another beating even more severe than this on the way to a comfortable series win. Still three games to go of course but come on England.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

MadJohn wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

offshorepoolie wrote:

they can't be very good we dicked them... typical... English (and Poolie) thought process.. Couldn't see the Aussies saying this if they just dicked us!

Concurring massively that prick Piers Morgan tweeted this, this morning;

"Nothing wrong with this Aussie team that a single good bowler, batsman or fielder wouldn't improve. They're a disgrace to the baggy green."

How about how well England played, and how good a side England are. The Aussies (apart from that spinner) are a strong side and we have just slaughtered them. One of the best England performances for a long, long time if not ever.

Morgan is clearly an idiot.

It's not too many days since Mike Hussey and Brad Haddin were twatting the England attack all round the Gabba. To suggest that Hussey in particular is no batsman is bloody stupid. He would also make most people's top tens of current best fielders in Test cricket. Michael Clarke would also be in that list, and Ricky Ponting would probably top it. All three are superb fielders. Ponting would also make an all-time Australia XI as one of the best batsmen ever to play the game. Watson and Katich are dependable openers, Haddin an excellent counter-attacking number seven. Marcus North is the weak link, but even he has centuries to his name in South Africa, in India, and in England (and Wales). Crucially for him he never scores in Australia, and that will probably end his career.

So it's a strong top seven. Admittedly it's not quite as strong as the top seven of a few years ago. Watson and Katich are not Hayden and Langer; Haddin isn't Gilchrist. But that old top seven is up there with the very best there's ever been. What they've got now is still very good, but they're batting under pressure against a confident England and with a toothless bowling attack that seems unable to exert the same pressure in the opposite direction.

For me their only top class bowler is Johnson, and he seems to have such a mental blind spot against England that he can't be trusted to play. The rest are good solid supporting cast but no more than that. Siddle bowled an excellent spell in Brisbane, but his record suggests that was unusually good for him. As Ian Chappell said, the opposition will look at Australian attack and see a bunch of number #3s lacking a number #1. Jason Gillespie and Brett Lee are better than what's out there, and Gillespie and Lee themselves were only the support act.

That's a great appraisal young John. I am in full concurrence with every word. clappp

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Whilst it has been a strong top 7 on their day previously, they have an abundance of problems and it's a great time to play them. Ponting is out of the top 20 rankings for the first time in a decade, Hussey was very close to being dropped before the series, Clarke has been well out of form and injured, the openers are solid without being spectacular, North gets himself in then gets himself although Haddin is a very under-rated batsmen. Compare that to years gone by where they had Langer and Hayden opening (one of the best pair of openers ever), Ponting as number 1 in the world, Clarke was their top run scorer 18 months ago and Adam Gilchirst was their wicketkeeper/batsmen and I think it shows how backwards they have gone. Then of course there is the tail which added just 27 runs in the two innings this time round, you'd have fancied Warney or Lee to get that on their own in previous years. Yes, individually they have some excellent players who have previously amassed high scores but collectively they're a weak unit at the moment.

England are superb at the moment, you can't take anything away from them. I don't remember us ever being as strong in the whole time I've been watching. Excellent in every department and everyone on top of their games, what more can you ask for?

I'd be truly gutted if we lost even one Test this time round, we're streets ahead of them in my opinion and if I was an Aussie I'd be extremely worried about how that bowling attack is ever going to take 20 wickets. It's irrelevant what has happened previously, we're never going to have such a good chance to destroy them.

suvin50 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:12 pm **Posts:** 92

Good photo of Pools flag in the Times this morning among the Barmy Army crowd. Anyone know who they are

Mandy · **Posted:** Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:19 pm

There are quite a few Poolies out there. Andy Mullen (Paul's Son), Ollie Mole (goes to loads of Pools Away games) and Goffy (young, not the gadget off the radio!) were all the the 2nd Test. Massive Seaton Carew CC flag was up all 5 days, and at least two other Pools flags. Picked Ollie out on HD the other nite!

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Wish I was out there like you wouldn't believe. Why oh why did I choose to go the year we got dicked 5-0? banghead

Good debate on cricinfo this morning, which is the better team...2010 Ashes side vs 2005.

SandyBanks · **Joined:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:50 pm **Posts:** 120

EAPools · **Posted:** Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:57 pm

Some Aussies have started a Bring Back Warne campaign, must be desperate.
Wolud be great for a laugh, but I'm in better shape than him (just)!

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Looks like Chris Tremlett in tonight then, widely considered a positive move which is something the Aussies are struggling to make. A couple of the Aussies struggle with the short ball so I bet they're delighted someone with his height will be launching balls at their head.

We've never had such a good chance, shame it starts at 2am. banghead

verbalkint · **Joined:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:08 pm **Posts:** 3135

EAPools wrote:

Some Aussies have started a Bring Back Warne campaign, must be desperate.
Wolud be great for a laugh, but I'm in better shape than him (just)!

No good getting Warne back he will be tired all the time due to him getting up Hurley lately bbolt

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

MadJohn wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

We've never had such a good chance, shame it starts at 2am. banghead

Aye, the Perth Test is always an annoying one (especially as we often get trounced). Looking forward to it, just hope that Tremlett can offer the control that Broad gave us in Brisbane and Adelaide as well as some aggression. I'm going to have an early night then get up to watch the first two sessions and listen to the third...

I'm working 2 till 12 tomorrow so not sure how to play it. Might get up for 7 and watch the last few hours.

Bramstein · **Joined:** Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm **Posts:** 1526

They've come back a bit Australia but 179 for 6 is still a pretty poor position. Get them out for less than 300 and it'll have been another excellent day's work.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

Looks like Chris Tremlett in tonight then, widely considered a positive move which is something the Aussies are struggling to make. A couple of the Aussies struggle with the short ball so I bet they're delighted someone with his height will be launching balls at their head.

Micheal Clarke being the perfect example at that. I should have had money on Clarke getting him. rage

Tremlett has returned with great figues and as I said before it's something the Aussies can't do. They've brought in Hughes, Smith, Harris, Doherty and Bollinger who have all returned fck all whilst we lose a key player like Broad and replace him with someone who gets half of the top out. :laugh:

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

MadJohn wrote:

I think Johnson will be dangerous here, and I also think it could be quite a low-scoring game. We will need to be careful early on. Our batsmen are in superb form but I would be happy with any reasonable lead. I don't think this will be another game in which we smack 500+

Yep, fully expecting Johnson to carry on his momentum from the damage he did with the bat on a pitch that will suit him.

350 wouldn't be OK but 420 should be the target.

Compo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:47 am

heard that collingwood slip catch was brilliant I cant find a video of it on youtube does anyone have a link to a re run of the aussie wickets

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Collingwood's catch was fantastic, I don't think we've got another player that could have pulled it off.

Johnson has been making a twat out of himself all morning. Firstly gobbing off at Jimmy who then duly clean bowled Harris five seconds later and then giving Strauss verbal. Strauss then walked off with Cook taking the piss out of the useless tart. :laugh:

EAPools · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:05 am

Great first day, first target had to be see out remainder of days play without losing a wicket. Done

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

EAPools wrote:

Great first day, first target had to be see out remainder of days play without losing a wicket. Done

Concurring...................very satisfactory first day.
Ponting caught by a Durham lad............smirk smirk. clappp

Jonny · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:29 pm

Good first day - the first hour or so of tomorrow will be crucial. If Strauss and Cook are still in at the first drinks break then we will be batting a long long time. The Aussie bowlers don't seem able of putting pressure on at both ends and their attack reminds me of when England had players like Chris Lewis, Steve Watkin and Chris Silverwood. They just haven't got the quality needed to compete at the top level...

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:31 pm

The Aussies have wriggled off the hook a bit with that total but the pitch was getting easier and it looks like we could easily bat all day tomorrow and get another 500+ total at some point on day 3.

Compo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:53 pm

Bollinger opened, Johnson out, Hussey bowled over. Not the cricket report, Shane Warne's diary for Sunday...

alleztfc · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:54 pm

andyp · **Joined:** Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:54 am **Posts:** 856

Happy days ....

Bramstein · **Joined:** Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm **Posts:** 1526

England right in the driving seat.

One good batting display away from securing the Ashes now. I strongly doubt Australia will have the stomach for a fight if go into their second innings needing a big score just to make us bat again.

Here's hoping for another good day's cricket.

Jonny · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:05 am

Bad Bad start - Colly let England down again 98-5...

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Johnson's performance was outstanding.
One question I would ask though...............does anyone think he chucks the odd ball

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:37 am

Yes I noticed that the other day his action is very suspect same as that Sri Lankan bowler who plays in the IPL forgot his name.

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:39 am

its malinga

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:11 pm

Compo wrote:

Bollinger opened, Johnson out, Hussey bowled over. Not the cricket report, Shane Warne's diary for Sunday...

This is the quality of stuff that keeps ya going, class Compo clappp

Jonny · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:24 pm

Jonny wrote:

Good first day - the first hour or so of tomorrow will be crucial. If Strauss and Cook are still in at the first drinks break then we will be batting a long long time. The Aussie bowlers don't seem able of putting pressure on at both ends and their attack reminds me of when England had players like Chris Lewis, Steve Watkin and Chris Silverwood. They just haven't got the quality needed to compete at the top level...

Some people obviously haven't a clue what they are on about...!

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

We've surely got to swap Colly and Bell for the second innings?

Jonny · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:12 pm

I would hope Bell would be put further up the order. The first session tomorrow is going to be crucial. We can't afford to be chasing more than 325 really and with the way we played in the 1st innings that would be a massive struggle. South Africa chased down over 400 at Perth a few years ago to win a test - lets hope we have the ability and mental toughness to do the same....

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:14 pm

Jonny of course we do it was one bad innings we showed in the first test that our batsman can stay the course and hold out play. I think if we have a good morning with the ball tonight we will win.

Mandy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:26 pm

Compo wrote:

Jonny of course we do it was one bad innings we showed in the first test that our batsman can stay the course and hold out play. I think if we have a good morning with the ball tonight we will win.

Concurrence with that chap. 3 wickets for less than 70 in the first session and it's anybody's game.

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:29 pm

Recent history at Perth has shown that chasing high totals batting last isn't a problem.

England have shown already they can post high scores but having said that I would like them to get the Aussies out before they have a lead of more than 300.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:03 pm

derwent wrote:

Johnson's performance was outstanding.
One question I would ask though...............does anyone think he chucks the odd ball

He's about as far away from being a chucker that's it's possible to be, he's slings the ball. You can bowl side arm from an almost 90 degree angle as long as your arm is straight.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:08 pm

Mandy wrote:

Compo wrote:

Jonny of course we do it was one bad innings we showed in the first test that our batsman can stay the course and hold out play. I think if we have a good morning with the ball tonight we will win.

Concurrence with that chap. 3 wickets for less than 70 in the first session and it's anybody's game.

We'll knock off anything under 400, Collingwood with a ton from number 5 :wink:

Bramstein · **Joined:** Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm **Posts:** 1526

Great spell of bowling from Johnson, no two ways about it.

England are not beaten yet though. It will obviously be a lot harder for them now but the three wickets they have taken mean it is still very much game on. The key, as ever in this situation, will be early wickets. Even then a target of 350 needn't be impossible to achieve. Johnson might bowl rubbish in the second innings. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

PJ_Poolie wrote:

derwent wrote:

Johnson's performance was outstanding.
One question I would ask though...............does anyone think he chucks the odd ball

He's about as far away from being a chucker that's it's possible to be, he's slings the ball. You can bowl side arm from an almost 90 degree angle as long as your arm is straight.

Thanks for that...........I knew you wouldn't let me down :wink:

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