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 Post subject: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:15 pm 
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Hate to do this but.....
I recall last year a lot of people saying around this time, we have alot of awful fixtures to come and we could be in the relegation places by new year

Well

Colchester
Huddersfield
Southampton
Bournemouth
Charlton
Oldham

its going to be tough

I think Wadsworth has done a great job so far, but we shouldnt kid ourselves about playoffs, every point we get is for safety, which will be avery good outcome for the season and allow us to get rid of the dead wood!


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:18 pm 
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yes, hoping Wadsworth and the team will make a fool of me for posting this!


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:57 pm 
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doubledecker wrote:
Hate to do this but.....
I recall last year a lot of people saying around this time, we have alot of awful fixtures to come and we could be in the relegation places by new year

Well

Colchester
Huddersfield
Southampton
Bournemouth
Charlton
Oldham

its going to be tough

I think Wadsworth has done a great job so far, but we shouldnt kid ourselves about playoffs, every point we get is for safety, which will be avery good outcome for the season and allow us to get rid of the dead wood!


Why, you not going on the "big club" syndrome......

Colchester have won 3 out of 8 at home why can't we get something and have conceded 12 at home scoring 13
Huddersfield may be difficult
Southampton lost 4 of 8 away why can't we get anything, also conceding at least goal a game away from home
Bournemouth may be difficult
Charlton won 4 of 9 away, why can't we get anything conceded 14 in those games
Oldham lost 3 of 7 away so why can't we get anything

Maybe I being to optimistic but I think your being to pessimistic,

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:12 pm 
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Lets see how we do tomorrow,many wrote Brighton off as a defeat but we did a great job.


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Huddersfield
Southampton
Bournemouth
Charlton
Oldham


Worry about em when the time comes

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:23 pm 
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we 3/1 to win and 12/5 to draw........So if you think we not going to lose bet both and you make profit, unless Pools are Pools and end up getting beat....

£5 on win returns £20
£5 on draw returns £17

so 7/10 we don't lose

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:45 pm 
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When the season starts, we know there are going to be matches that 'could' be difficult. But why anyone wants to go around highlighting them as lost causes is pointless and just adding to a defeatist attitude regardless of whether they mean to or not.
If everything was as predictable as the pundits would have us believe, there'd be no need to play the games and just get a bleedin panel to work out the scores, pointless away journies would be eliminated, energy and money saved and the season could be over in half a day.
One of the joys of football is that you might think you know what the outcomes gonna be, but it has a nasty habit of biting you on the arse, ask boastful Brighton.
Let's stop highlighting what could go wrong and just see what happens eh ...?

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:48 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
When the season starts, we know there are going to be matches that 'could' be difficult. But why anyone wants to go around highlighting them as lost causes is pointless and just adding to a defeatist attitude regardless of whether they mean to or not.
If everything was as predictable as the pundits would have us believe, there'd be no need to play the games and just get a bleedin panel to work out the scores, pointless away journies would be eliminated, energy and money saved and the season could be over in half a day.
One of the joys of football is that you might think you know what the outcomes gonna be, but it has a nasty habit of biting you on the arse, ask boastful Brighton.
Let's stop highlighting what could go wrong and just see what happens eh ...?



I am just putting my opinion fwd, that I believe to be realistic.
No one said they were lost causes, only that we have a string of difficult games coming.


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:55 pm 
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I am just putting my opinion fwd, that I believe to be realistic.
No one said they were lost causes, only that we have a string of difficult games coming.


You didn't highlight the possibility that Tranmere and Orient could be easy though.

I agree with snowy, football is played on grass not paper and to be honest all games are difficult, as a lot of unexpected situations can arise prior to the next game.

Whose to say Charlton/ Southampton/ Bournemouth wont have 3/4 players missing by time we play them due to suspensions /injuries, making the game a lot easier (on paper) for us.

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:56 pm 
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A negative post highlighting possible difficulties in future games is in my opinion a pointless negative post. It's a bit like joining the army and telling your fellow soldiers how bad it's gonna be when the action starts and how much better the enemy is so don't expect too much. Pointless and defeatist, have some faith and stop highlighting the negatives.

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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Snowy wrote:
A negative post highlighting possible difficulties in future games is in my opinion a pointless negative post. It's a bit like joining the army and telling your fellow soldiers how bad it's gonna be when the action starts and how much better the enemy is so don't expect too much. Pointless and defeatist, have some faith and stop highlighting the negatives.



Thats your opinion (which your entitled too) I think part of it is reverse psychology on myself, I play down our chanes so I am not too disappointed when it doesn't work out.....though am sure you will say stop inflicting it on the rest of us!!

I disagree with the pointless part though, most posts on here are opionions on how we will do, and saying....ooh we are in for a struggle is no more or less pointless than......oooh we are headed for the playoffs!


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:08 am 
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doubledecker wrote:
Snowy wrote:
A negative post highlighting possible difficulties in future games is in my opinion a pointless negative post. It's a bit like joining the army and telling your fellow soldiers how bad it's gonna be when the action starts and how much better the enemy is so don't expect too much. Pointless and defeatist, have some faith and stop highlighting the negatives.



Thats your opinion (which your entitled too) I think part of it is reverse psychology on myself, I play down our chanes so I am not too disappointed when it doesn't work out.....though am sure you will say stop inflicting it on the rest of us!!

I disagree with the pointless part though, most posts on here are opionions on how we will do, and saying....ooh we are in for a struggle is no more or less than......oooh we are headed for the playoffs!


I don't think he's getting your point Snowy!!

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:15 am 
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I'll try again. :wink:
Are we sitting comfortably, right, here we go then .... When you approach a new season with a view like mine, that we'll see what turns up, you neither expect or promote the idea of relegation or play offs, you just take each game as it comes.
As for Wadsworths comments, FFS he's the manager, managers talk their teams up, he's hardly like to sit them down at the start of the season and say .... " It's gonna be a hard season lads, I don't have much faith in us getting much out of some of the teams we're up against and in all honesty we're a bag o shite and I'd understand if you share my doubts. Now I'm not trying to put doubts in your mind, but let's be honest, nobody expects much of us, we're always favourites for the drop and it's more or less what everyone expects. So when it all goes tits up, don't worry, there'll be no pressure from me. I have no faith, so I have no right to expect it of you ...go out and try if you get the urge, but you're wasting your time if you ask me...."
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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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And by the way, Bournemouth are one of those flash in the pan teams who just so happen to have had a good start to the season after promotion.

We'll beat them by at least 2.

The rest are shite aswell. ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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Snowy wrote:
I'll try again. :wink:
Are we sitting comfortably, right, here we go then .... When you approach a new season with a view like mine, that we'll see what turns up, you neither expect or promote the idea of relegation or play offs, you just take each game as it comes.
As for Wadsworths comments, FFS he's the manager, managers talk their teams up, he's hardly like to sit them down at the start of the season and say .... " It's gonna be a hard season lads, I don't have much faith in us getting much out of some of the teams we're up against and in all honesty we're a bag o shite and I'd understand if you share my doubts. Now I'm not trying to put doubts in your mind, but let's be honest, nobody expects much of us, we're always favourites for the drop and it's more or less what everyone expects. So when it all goes tits up, don't worry, there'll be no pressure from me. I have no faith, so I have no right to expect it of you ...go out and try if you get the urge, but you're wasting your time if you ask me...."
He's doing his job and you're doing yours.


that's interesting, a completely defeatist and negative post straight after advising someone to 'keep the faith and be positive'.


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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klinger wrote:
Snowy wrote:
I'll try again. :wink:
Are we sitting comfortably, right, here we go then .... When you approach a new season with a view like mine, that we'll see what turns up, you neither expect or promote the idea of relegation or play offs, you just take each game as it comes.
As for Wadsworths comments, FFS he's the manager, managers talk their teams up, he's hardly like to sit them down at the start of the season and say .... " It's gonna be a hard season lads, I don't have much faith in us getting much out of some of the teams we're up against and in all honesty we're a bag o shite and I'd understand if you share my doubts. Now I'm not trying to put doubts in your mind, but let's be honest, nobody expects much of us, we're always favourites for the drop and it's more or less what everyone expects. So when it all goes tits up, don't worry, there'll be no pressure from me. I have no faith, so I have no right to expect it of you ...go out and try if you get the urge, but you're wasting your time if you ask me...."
He's doing his job and you're doing yours.


that's interesting, a completely defeatist and negative post straight after advising someone to 'keep the faith and be positive'.


Read it again Klinger, and try and undersand what Snowy is saying.

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:03 am 
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Chris Turner is likely to sit them down at the start of the season and say .... " It's gonna be a hard season lads, I don't have much faith in us getting much out of some of the teams we're up against and in all honesty we're a bag o shite and I'd understand if you share my doubts. Now I'm not trying to put doubts in your mind, but let's be honest, nobody expects much of us, we're always favourites for the drop and it's more or less what everyone expects. So when it all goes tits up, don't worry, there'll be no pressure from me. I have no faith, so I have no right to expect it of you ...go out and try if you get the urge, but you're wasting your time if you ask me...."
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I was just thinking, imagine applying this sort of logic to other aspects of life. You're a lorry driver driving all over the country and put up a list of deliveries for the next week and highlight all the problems you may encounter on the roads and your chances of avoiding getting involved in an accident, even killed on certain notorious stretches of road with a bad reputation for accidents and keep dwelling on the fact, highlighting your doubts about it to the point of not actually going there. If you're going to a party, you turn up with drink and enjoy yourself, you don't turn up with a flask of tea and hand out brochures condemning the evils of drink and funeral pre payment plan application forms ... cos you're gonna die y'know!
YOU WOULDN'T DO IT, you know there are risks involved and accept it as part of your job, social life ... or even playing the game of football, it's taken as read.

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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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Snowy wrote:
I was just thinking, imagine applying this sort of logic to other aspects of life. You're a lorry driver driving all over the country and put up a list of deliveries for the next week and highlight all the problems you may encounter on the roads and your chances of avoiding getting involved in an accident, even killed on certain notorious stretches of road with a bad reputation for accidents and keep dwelling on the fact, highlighting your doubts about it to the point of not actually going there. If you're going to a party, you turn up with drink and enjoy yourself, you don't turn up with a flask of tea and hand out brochures condemning the evils of drink and funeral pre payment plan application forms ... cos you're gonna die y'know!
YOU WOULDN'T DO IT, you know there are risks involved and accept it as part of your job, social life ... or even playing the game of football, it's taken as read.


yep quite right, it's almost as though chatting on a message board is NOT real life!!!! crazy I know...imagine if in real life people were called, 'snowy' or 'Sussex' or 'fetish bob'
its almost as though the internet ISN'T real life, and instead is just people voicng their opinion virtually
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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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Double decker ... I take it you're an open top.

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I think the intention decker's post was to highlight the fact that there's a few tough games coming up and we should'nt get too carried away after last week's result. The title of the thread 'Damp Squib' kind of says it all.
I don't think he would have expected a lesson into the physcological benefits of posititive thinking when playing a game of football or going to a party even.
Although stating the bleeding obvious, he was just giving an opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
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Snowy wrote:
Double decker ... I take it you're an open top.


as long as I'm not a free ride!!

basically this place is one for opinions (I hope).


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 Post subject: Re: Damp Squib
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:31 am 
It is Mr.Decker....and long may it continue!!!! :wink: :grin:

And for what it's worth....we have got some tough games coming up....Brighton was on aswell....and the run-in at the end of the season is tough aswell!!!! confised

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doubledecker wrote:
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Double decker ... I take it you're an open top.


as long as I'm not a free ride!!

basically this place is one for opinions (I hope).

... and on some other subjects we'll be in total agreement. :wink:

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MutleyRules wrote:
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Chris Turner is likely to sit them down at the start of the season and say .... " It's gonna be a hard season lads, I don't have much faith in us getting much out of some of the teams we're up against and in all honesty we're a bag o shite and I'd understand if you share my doubts. Now I'm not trying to put doubts in your mind, but let's be honest, nobody expects much of us, we're always favourites for the drop and it's more or less what everyone expects. So when it all goes tits up, don't worry, there'll be no pressure from me. I have no faith, so I have no right to expect it of you ...go out and try if you get the urge, but you're wasting your time if you ask me...."
He's doing his job and you're doing yours.


Funny, I was thinking this sounds like something Chris Turner might come up.


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sounds like we were VERY unlucky.....hopefully that will even out over the season!


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