On Pools World Sam Collins claims the referee said to him that he wasn't going to go send Humphreys off.

"Even the referee, the referee said both of them are entitled to go for the ball. Don't worry about it, it's a yellow card."

And then he sends him off.

The keeper has just suffered a gashed leg. No leg break.

if they are both entitled to go for it then why should it even be a yellow card?

But on closer inspection of the injury thought it deserved a red card? Just a thought like!

It's the challenge that should be penalised NOT the injury.

So on that basis if no injury then no red card shown......Just a thought like......

A bit of a stupid thought like...!

How can a gashed leg take so long to sort out....? And how can a gashed leg be mistaken for a break..? And why are referees such wankers...?

load of shiite.

hth.fwiw

Loan Star, you're alright for a Loid but I've rarely read something as stupid as that!

It was one of the most pathetic examples of refereeing I have ever seen.

So the injury ia not that bad afterall. It makes their managers rant at Ritchie Himphreys as he left the field all the more pathetic.

Excuse my cynicism here, but the thought of a referee 'amending' his opinion isn't supposed to happen is it ...?
Surely the judgement should be made on intent, not outcome.

As Chip says I wasnt defending the ref, just saying that his decision may have been swayed. We all know refs are a law to themselves anyway, rarely explaining controversial decisions. You just to have to see what happened in Stoke games in the last few weeks to see how inconsistant they are even with the basic decisions.

As Sam Collins had already established what the referees view/opinion of the incident was, surely it begs the question why did he change his mind??????????
We could shoot a letter off to the FA to ask them what made him change his mind??
It's not going to make a great deal of difference in the long run but it will bring Sam's version to the attention of the FA officials. The FA will do sfa about it of course, but that shouldn't stop us voicing our concern.
Something or someone influenced the refs decision and it is quite a simple process to establish what.

Would we have won if Ritchie had stayed on the pitch? We looked lively with him and still looked comfortable without him (which speaks volumes about the gulf in class) but it looked like one of those days where we just wouldn't have been able to buy a goal.

IMO the ref was swayed by a mixture of their players reactions and the injury that must have looked serious at the time.

The bigger question is why did the game finish so early?

The official answer to why did the game finish early will be.............the sole adjudicator for time played and time added on is the referee. In public the ref will be backed to the hilt on that one, although he might get a bollicking in private.
As a football league club we should be entitled to a football league referee in all competitions we play, in my humble opinion.
Would a conference referee be given a match between Vauxhall Motors and a Premiership club????????

Oh I have no doubt that the officials will cook something up and stick together. It's a pity the said linesman could n't lend him a watch or advise him on how long a football match should be played.

I know this is one of the rules of the game. But if it is to the referee to decide how much added time will be played how come you never see him stop play so he can go to tell the 4th official what to put on the board? So is it in fact the 4th officials decision and not the referees?

They have intercom thingys nowadays don't they?

The ref probably didn't want to be late getting away cos he had kids to go and eye up at a fireworks display.

The refs usually signal the amount of time to be added on mate or communicate on their thingies.

The fourth official plays with his board......did you notice the fourth official's deliberate mistake on Saturday?????????

The referee may consult the other officials or even leave it to them but he is ultimately responsible. You'll note the anouncer says a minimum of whatever minutes. That is designed to prevent any criticism for over playing. Tied up all ways.

Didn't realise they had radios. What was his deliberate mistake, I didn't notice the board go up at all Saturday which probably added to my confusion.

the ref and linesmen were not wired this game. Also the ref was brand new he never reffed a league game before.
Out of his depth.........................

When he put his board up for Bjornnson to come on, the number 22 was in red instead of green, the guy coming off was in green.
Got it arse first. lol

So he had a wire loose...........explains a lot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Easy answer is an independant time keeper as in rubgy league.

As for the comment that a conference ref shouldnt be allowed to ref a cup tie between a league team & another team down the pyramid, dont you think its a good way to blood a conference ref into a higher standard of football to see if they are up to it? To be fair I havent seen many good ones this season but those that are better than the dross should be given a chance.

no and go back to your own teams board

Well in that case one day you will run out of refs since people like you dont want new ones given a chance on a bigger stage.

What did he book Arman for?, he did nowt that I could see other than stop some of their players from kicking off........er.... I'll book the tallest one eh!

Well if that bloke we had was form the Conference then no, he wasn't good enough. A ref who can't even keep time for 90 minutes should not be officiating at any level.

Bjornnson was standing over to two players trying protect them from the fracas that was starting to kick off, that tosser of a number four started trying to pull him away and he pushed him back. I'd have given big Armann a tenner to plant the beardy non league clogger.

By the sounds of things he isnt good enough but thats based on one game. Over the years Ive seen countless refs who on first viewing were total gash and yet over time some have got better. He was obviously thought to be worthy of a game like your cup tie but that will have been judged over a period of time, not just some lucky draw out of a hat. You just got him on a particularly bad day!

For someone who was obviously not there you seem to be adamant on voicing an opinion. How do you know that we got him on a bad day. You weren't there and I would dare bet that you have not seen him on any other day.
I have no objection to promoting rising talent within the refereeing ranks but until the Football League promote him to their list, then he stays where he is.
I have no intention also of giving an opinion of any referee of any game which I haven't seen, can I suggest that as a bit of good advice to your good self you do the same.

oooh some touchy people on here!! Just ignore the point that other people see this bloke refereeing more than anyone on this board do & they obviously thought he was more than capable of handling the tie. Just cos he gave a shit decision against you or had a bad game in general doesnt mean hes like that every week. It matters not one bit whether I was there or not to give an opinion on the use of non league refs for cup ties if those in charge think they are up to it. If you cant handle an alternative point of view then why bother using messageboards?

Seems as though he makes a habit of incorrect decisions, a lino promoted beyond his level of ability it would seem.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/w ... -27223251/

What was that you were saying about not being able to handle an alternative point of view.

I was forgetting that Darlo fans have more experience than us of non league officials.

Yes we do! And to be honest most of them are crap but I also guess most of them wont have been given games in the cup as referees!

By the way, we had a league ref last weekend and he was abysmal, one of the worst of the season for us so far.

Never mind, at least you won't have to get used to that ever again.

Well that depends who refs us in the 2nd round then doesnt it!!