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I dont know why the entire thread wasn't just deleted.
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Funnily enough thats not everyones opinion.
May the mighty rule.
No harm done though :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Kids playing games again
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Which thread has been pulled?


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I haven't got a clue what they are going on about either!!!! confised


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I haven't got a clue what they are going on about either!!!! confised



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If you read the thread which states it would be a coup for the town if the mayor won mayor of the world rolfl
I replied, what would be a good coup for the town would be if all the staff finished by Garlands and Flexibility recently all found new jobs.
And that was it!!!

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If you read the thread which states it would be a coup for the town if the mayor won mayor of the world rolfl
I replied, what would be a good coup for the town would be if all the staff finished by Garlands and Flexibility recently all found new jobs.
And that was it!!!



It's odd innit?

A few weeks back when Garlands went titties up, someone posted a threat stating Iain Wright had bad mouthed the workers there

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who does drummond play footy with on here?

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 Post subject: Re: Kids playing games again
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who does drummond play footsie with on here?

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The last message I saw on that thread saw someone make a personal comment about Drummond's weight. I am guessing that is why the thread got pulled though I have no idea.

There is absolutely zilch chance of the thread getting pulled because someone has slagged off his Mayoral ability IMO.

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I think that was something along the lines of he might win the fattest mayoral contest due to all the free lunches he receives:)
If the powers that be found that so offensive then why wasn't that the only post deleted ?

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I didn't delete it.

I might have done had I seen it though.

And I'd love to have a game of footie with Iain Wright, so long as he was on the other team.

Hope that helps.

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I don't play football with him. The only two things I have in common with him ( as far as I know) are........we both support Pools and we could both shed a few pounds. :shock:

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The problem is too many chiefs.
In fact, i'm probably the only one who posts on here who doesn't have some sort of admin access.
Its quite funny really and not immature at all.

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The problem is too many chiefs.
In fact, i'm probably the only one who posts on here who doesn't have some sort of admin access.
Its quite funny really and not immature at all.


I dont either mate and I think I have talked to Drummond about twice in my life

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I did, and it wasn't about football. I thought it was getting too personal after all the bloke can hardly come on here and defend himself. I know him a bit, not intimately and as we all know, he found himself in the job by accident. What you ended up with was a bloke as major who actually gives a shit. I'm sure he's the first to agree that he has made mistakes but with the best intentions. It's generally accepted that he's making a decent fist of it.

The difference in my view between Drummond and Wright is that Wright was an obvious lapdog to the party line and irrespective of its impact on Hartlepool he went along with decisions like a good little boy.


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 Post subject: Re: Kids playing games again
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I did, and it wasn't about football. I thought it was getting too personal after all the bloke can hardly come on here and defend himself. I know him a bit, not intimately and as we all know, he found himself in the job by accident. What you ended up with was a bloke as major who actually gives a shit. I'm sure he's the first to agree that he has made mistakes but with the best intentions. It's generally accepted that he's making a decent fist of it.

The difference in my view between Drummond and Wright is that Wright was an obvious lapdog to the party line and irrespective of its impact on Hartlepool he went along with decisions like a good little boy.



But he still never called Garland employees dimwits, did he, but the thread was allowed to run


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But he still never called Garland employees dimwits, did he, but the thread was allowed to run


It's never been shown to be the case, sure.


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You can say that that thread should have been pulled and you might well have a point but that doesn't make the Drummond thread ok. Double standards possibly but thats a failing on the former non-action not the latter action.


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Well at least I know now who pulled the thread.
No harm done I'm sure though I'm sure the post I wrote was far from being a personal comment about the bloke.
I can do that to his face!!!

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I think that was something along the lines of he might win the fattest mayoral contest due to all the free lunches he receives:)




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chip fireball wrote:
there was an event at the historic quay today for ex garlands and flexability employees.

did either mr wright or mr drummond attend the event to speak with the recently redundant electorate ?

it might have been an idea for them to pitch up and show some solidarity with the ex-workers and get an idea of how many are close to finding alternative employment.


what did you think of the do at the quay chip.
mrs bus attended and was underwhelmed.
what is the point of a jobs fayre with no jobs

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That's what our lass thought.
But she did bring home a goody bag akin to Bruce forsythes generation game.
Cuddly toy, Parker Pen, Tin of mints etc...
Oi Mr Bus... Apparently your lass has no plans to return to work just yet, she reckons she has a good husband who'll do the double shifts when ordered:)

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I think it's massively over sensitive pulling a thread because it mentions someone's weight. Chris Turner, Adam Boyd, Alan Power and Ritchie Humphreys often get a bit of stick on here surrounding weight issues but no one is bothered. They aren't likely to come on here to defend themselves either. I'm sure SD would also probably be the first to admit that he has a bit of a kite.

On SD I don't know how he can be talked about as the best mayor in the world when the town has got progressively worse since he got his job. I know economic decline isn't down to him but it's difficult to pinpoint things that he has done to justify his salary.

I'm sure he is a decent bloke but most people are, the people that know SD should be able to view threads that may be critical of him without being so defensive...


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 Post subject: Re: Kids playing games again
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and orange hand jobs going for anyone willing to travel to peterlee or darlo.


That's scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit like!!!! confised


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and orange hand jobs going for anyone willing to travel to peterlee or darlo.


That's scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit like!!!! confised



A hand job is hand job, just ask that Andy Park over in Darlow dreamland


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They are taking on 5 full time staff and some part time at our place chip if you wanna pass it on to any of your garlands pals who have not been successful yet.

They are not putting the job in the mail just on monster and anglianwater.co.uk

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chip fireball wrote:
well mr bus, for job seekers allowance purposes i was obliged to attend the jobs fair. most of the employers were from out of town naturally, but both eds ( handling loan applications for lloyds ) and orange had jobs going for anyone willing to travel to peterlee or darlo.

theres also lots of training and education opportunities going and the providers were on site yesterday.

i worked on a team of 9 at garlands and 6 are already back in work, and another is waiting for a start date. i think if you dont have problems working out of town theres deffo jobs out there.

personally ive already registered for some voluntary work with kids excluded from school and im just having the crb checks and that done at the moment. ive also registered for some free courses at the fe college.

its the first time ive signed on for a decade, the weathers nice, and im chilling out for a bit. i dont wanna rush into the first job i get offered for a change, ive got a few quid in the bank and i want to try and get a job somewhere with some prospects and that.

to be fair to the mayor he has been working hard to organise things like yesterdays event and the one at the f e college last week. obviously not everyone is going to walk straight back into work but at least a fair proportion are. obviously the more people that get jobs the more money thats going back into the towns economy.

The problem with the jobs at darlow and p/lee is the public transport to them.
if you are a car driver these places are accessible but the daughter worked at npower for a short time and after 5.30 you can wait nearly an hour to get a bus home

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Chip, our lass has just got a start at Npower.
Its 14k a year to start plus possible commision.
They are taking on and there's a few from here working there so a lift could be possible.

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the jobs fair was arranged with little notice (due to the fact that the poor twats who got finished had no notice) and as for getting people in, almost 250 people attended. If there are few jobs out there then they can't be created, however there are several other options and assistance to get people back into work. Surely you can't expect to turn up at a jobs fair (despite the title) and walk out with a job....

As for criticising the mayor, you try walking in his shoes. I hardly know the bloke but can you imagine the shite he has to put up with. Not driven, or backed for that matter, by any party, every decision he takes (rightly or wrongly) will be made with so many different factors taken into account - who am i going to piss off if i do this, what if i don't, what if my conscience says no but i'm driven to do this and so on. Can you imagine all the shite he gets asked as well because he is a poolie who is the mayor too.

give the lad a break and don't go on about the wage, it's not that much for the job he does and the budget he has responsibility for, he'll earn substantially more not being mayor and i am surprised he stood again, as he good have walked away to £5k a day consultancy work. maybe he's concerned about the area.....

Anyway, i understand that Garlands won't be empty for too long :wink:

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the jobs fair was arranged with little notice (due to the fact that the poor twats who got finished had no notice) and as for getting people in, almost 250 people attended. If there are few jobs out there then they can't be created, however there are several other options and assistance to get people back into work. Surely you can't expect to turn up at a jobs fair (despite the title) and walk out with a job....

As for criticising the mayor, you try walking in his shoes. I hardly know the bloke but can you imagine the shite he has to put up with. Not driven, or backed for that matter, by any party, every decision he takes (rightly or wrongly) will be made with so many different factors taken into account - who am i going to piss off if i do this, what if i don't, what if my conscience says no but i'm driven to do this and so on. Can you imagine all the shite he gets asked as well because he is a poolie who is the mayor too.

give the lad a break and don't go on about the wage, it's not that much for the job he does and the budget he has responsibility for, he'll earn substantially more not being mayor and i am surprised he stood again, as he good have walked away to £5k a day consultancy work. maybe he's concerned about the area.....

Anyway, i understand that Garlands won't be empty for too long :wink:



Iain Wright doesn't earn that much more and gets a dogs abuse on here and the threads never get pulled, he also supports Pools

Mr Lightning Tree had a justified gripe about the Mayor, not Stuart Drummond, who also supports Pools and had made a vaild points about his tenure in the past, but is shot down

Something MUST rest on his head with a job of that nature and as long as the abuse doesn't get personal, a hartlepool resident has the right to do it if they see fit


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talbot, the mayor is good mates with a lot of members of the bunker so they are bound to stick up for him. the majority of us voted for him as well on the basis he was the best man for the job, so yes, again a lot of us will defend him.

he is also very pro-active in terms of contacting people if they raise issues on here. ive had a pm off him 3 times when ive mentioned stuff about the town or the tall ships and he couldnt have been more helpful.

for the record i played five a side with him a few times several years ago. i went to an away match with a group of people from off here ( fet bob, tax payer, parmo etc ) and he was part of that group.

thats probably the only times ive met the bloke other than to nod me head at him if i see him in asda. ive never been out socially with him and i dont stand with him at the games.

ian wright ive never voted for ( despite the fact ive always been a labour voter prior to 2002 ), and the only experience ive had with the bloke was a bad one. i think his only contribution to the bunker was a letter threatening legal action.

im sure he is much better thought of on the official labour party message boards ( you could try posting there instead of on here perhaps ? ), but apart from you i dont recall anyone else on here having a good word to say about the fella. which speaks volumes given how long he has been m.p. for the gaff.

you keep telling us how wonderful he is but without any explanation as to why ?



I've never said he was 'wonderful', the the 'Wright is Might' stuff was meant in a true 'Artlepool stylee, to get a bite


However last week a load of made up dogshite was posted, but it wasn't pulled or retracted, which is why a lot of people think the bunker is a clique

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the jobs fair was arranged with little notice (due to the fact that the poor twats who got finished had no notice) and as for getting people in, almost 250 people attended. If there are few jobs out there then they can't be created, however there are several other options and assistance to get people back into work. Surely you can't expect to turn up at a jobs fair (despite the title) and walk out with a job....

As for criticising the mayor, you try walking in his shoes. I hardly know the bloke but can you imagine the shite he has to put up with. Not driven, or backed for that matter, by any party, every decision he takes (rightly or wrongly) will be made with so many different factors taken into account - who am i going to piss off if i do this, what if i don't, what if my conscience says no but i'm driven to do this and so on. Can you imagine all the shite he gets asked as well because he is a poolie who is the mayor too.

give the lad a break and don't go on about the wage, for it's not that much the job he does and the budget he has responsibility for, he'll earn substantially more not being mayor and i am surprised he stood again, as he good have walked away to £5k a day consultancy work. maybe he's concerned about the area.....

Anyway, i understand that Garlands won't be empty for too long :wink:


for its not that much the job he does (about the silliest comment you have ever made col).
he'll earn substantially more not being a mayor as he could have walked away to a 5k a day consultancy work (about the 2nd silliest comment you have ever made col).
The budget he has responsibility for (Paul Walker)

I'm sure we are all underpaid and overworked.
I think 60k a year is a very over generous sum considering I know what most of his duties are.

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talbot, the mayor is good mates with a lot of members of the bunker so they are bound to stick up for him. the majority of us voted for him as well on the basis he was the best man for the job, so yes, again a lot of us will defend him.

he is also very pro-active in terms of contacting people if they raise issues on here. ive had a pm off him 3 times when ive mentioned stuff about the town or the tall ships and he couldnt have been more helpful.

for the record i played five a side with him a few times several years ago. i went to an away match with a group of people from off here ( fet bob, tax payer, parmo etc ) and he was part of that group.

thats probably the only times ive met the bloke other than to nod me head at him if i see him in asda. ive never been out socially with him and i dont stand with him at the games.

ian wright ive never voted for ( despite the fact ive always been a labour voter prior to 2002 ), and the only experience ive had with the bloke was a bad one. i think his only contribution to the bunker was a letter threatening legal action.

im sure he is much better thought of on the official labour party message boards ( you could try posting there instead of on here perhaps ? ), but apart from you i dont recall anyone else on here having a good word to say about the fella. which speaks volumes given how long he has been m.p. for the gaff.

you keep telling us how wonderful he is but without any explanation as to why ?



I've never said he was 'wonderful', the the 'Wright is Might' stuff was meant in a true 'Artlepool stylee, to get a bite


However last week a load of made up dogshite was posted, but it wasn't pulled or retracted, which is why a lot of people think the bunker is a clique

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What can mayor Drummond do to save jobs or get people jobs nothing its out of his hands.
When the job fayre was on at the quay Major Drummond was at engagement with the Hartlepool hospice i.m told.

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Kev its not just about jobs.
As Jonny pointed out in an earlier post the town has got progressively worse and its not just the extra unemployment which has caused this.
We are paying someone 60/70k a year and I see us going backwards.
Most people I speak to couldn't give a shite about the tall ships.
People will have a browse round the 100 metres of shops at the marina and then fcuk off.
We'll then have mass brawls as gangs from every area of the town congregate and get pissed.
Mind, this is not down to just the mayor, its the whole council.
We just don't have the facilites to cope with such an event.

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katcha wrote:
the jobs fair was arranged with little notice (due to the fact that the poor twats who got finished had no notice) and as for getting people in, almost 250 people attended. If there are few jobs out there then they can't be created, however there are several other options and assistance to get people back into work. Surely you can't expect to turn up at a jobs fair (despite the title) and walk out with a job....

As for criticising the mayor, you try walking in his shoes. I hardly know the bloke but can you imagine the shite he has to put up with. Not driven, or backed for that matter, by any party, every decision he takes (rightly or wrongly) will be made with so many different factors taken into account - who am i going to piss off if i do this, what if i don't, what if my conscience says no but i'm driven to do this and so on. Can you imagine all the shite he gets asked as well because he is a poolie who is the mayor too.

give the lad a break and don't go on about the wage, for it's not that much the job he does and the budget he has responsibility for, he'll earn substantially more not being mayor and i am surprised he stood again, as he good have walked away to £5k a day consultancy work. maybe he's concerned about the area.....

Anyway, i understand that Garlands won't be empty for too long :wink:


for its not that much the job he does (about the silliest comment you have ever made col).
he'll earn substantially more not being a mayor as he could have walked away to a 5k a day consultancy work (about the 2nd silliest comment you have ever made col).
The budget he has responsibility for (Paul Walker)

I'm sure we are all underpaid and overworked.
I think 60k a year is a very over generous sum considering I know what most of his duties are.



just trying to mirror your stupidity :laugh:

salary - It aint mate either. i now and previously worked with fookers who get paid the same and more who do substantially less and have zero accountability if they err, and no exposure to the lambasting that he recieves

5k a day - i meant a week, but wouldn't a day be nice, and thinking about it, you'd be surprised what some fookers earn a day in fees like this

each to their own mate, the town is screwed up, but i dont blame him for it. drugs and associated crime and the fact that the main industry now is pubs etc then you start to see where we've fooked up as a town. but is it his responsibility to take on the likes of mr big neck, or the bouncers with side businesses, or the seemingly respectable businessmen who made unimaginable sums out of dealing - if the police leave them and to a certain extent tolerate them then we're fooked - blame the law

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