Options took on Collins, Sweeney, Humphreys, Brown Greulich, Deals offered to Purvis P. Johnson, Martin and Blackford.

Clark, Cherel, Jones,Tymon, Power, Rowell, Cook. Have been released

the club are a joke.

hth

Why am I not suprised. So its jobs for the boys and the same old shite again next year.

How the fuck does that halfwit put that list out then make this statement?

Rowell? So much for the youth policy.
Clark? So much for utility players
Jones doesn't want to play for us so he can sod off
As for others released and retained not surprised.

seems obvious he still in charge next season

Only one I would disagree with is Rowell. Clark not really "utility" and was poor last season and is lost in midfield.

And Mackay?????????????????

From that you would imagine Mackay is still in contract?

Only really surprised by rowell there. Must be more to it as he is reported to have the ability...

Another season exactly the same
Massive change around, same numb manager, same performance and end result

Rowell being released is a disgrace, everyone can see he needed to be given a run in that team and was good enough to be given that chance

How many of you arent getting season tickets now? Is it really worth it to watch that garbage again?

Or alternatively you could wait to make that decision when you see who might replace the released players.

I am getting one, no doubting it, but the way people have been going there will be severely less than last season

i,ll still get season ticket always have and always will support
the team just like most on here

Mackay had his contract up at the end of last year didn't he? Surely to god he wasn't given a two year contract?

So, last year Turner said he gave Mackay a renewed contract. Surely it can't have been for more than a year???????????????????????????????????????

Project Ken.

at turners talk in at rovers club last august
he told us he had a plan for mackay and we would
see it in the new year ??????????

Relegation battle again.

What was the plan, to boil him down for glue?

It has got to be easier to understand the thoughts and logic of the mothers union than to unravel what goes on in Turner's " football " brain.

I disagree on two levels; the brain existing and it being anything to do with football.

And sure enough we have just seen this plan. Mackay was given at least two more years.
He had us all fooled with this one.

Is Mackay employed by IOR directly so they can right his wages of against tax?

I'd have liked to have seen Rowell and Jones given another season with a proper manager in charge. I think there is real potential there and it will bite us on the arse in the future. I'd have certainly sacrificied the wage of either Collins or Humphreys to bring them both through but that was never going to happen, was it? They obviously need to learn to clap the fans a bit longer.

The 4 youth team lads offered Professional terms must be wondering how they will get a chance.

When did our Youth system last produce a 1st team regular?

I'm going to get a season ticket and sit just behind Turner

and chuck half-house bricks at him

From a sack, not a man bag

hth

I'm going to get a season ticket for arsenal and watch Jonny Rowell become
the best player in the country

larkin said himself he has a three year deal, we just have to pray that is two years and an extension.

Wasn't expecting the others to be on anything less than two years.

I know where Rowell went wrong, he didn't do enough public badge kissing or cry like a big daft lass on the pitch. Or put in a couple of years of shite performance and then try really hard for the last couple of games when the publicity is around.

No real suprises on the list. Cant see what the problem is me, chip ive got some 2-4-1 golf vouchers for you to make it even cheaper if you want them just let me know!!

And to think most of us down there on Saturday stayed behind to cheer them off as the players celebrated as though they had won the f.a.cup:):)

nice over reaction by the know it all's as usual..

Let's go back to having a weak as piss bench which cannot change a game ALA Wilson shall we with untried youth and players who wouldnt get a game at the wreck? Humps = Squad player who can steady the ship with 10 mins to go if winning, Collins = again squad player.. But let's not let that get in the way of a pop at the club and Turner eh?

the thing is, none of us really know what the attitude & application of the likes of Rowell & Jones were. Turner & West saw them in training every single day. For all we know they both could have been lazy & disinterested. They both have undoubted potential, but theres more to football than ability.

We also need to see who he brings in to replace them, we look decidedly light at the back and in central midfield now.

In the words of Derek "How very dare you"

No surprises at all in that list.

Those whinging about Humphreys and Sweeney might want to think about the importance of having experience both on the pitch and in the dressing room.

For all we know, new midfielders may be signed and be regulars, and the two mentioned above may be bench players (Sweeney has been for a while now)

I'm going to wait and see how it pans out.

Can't argue with that but if you are a manager do you

a) Ditch the good players that can't be arsed.

b) Work to find out what makes the good players tick to get the best out of them.

Turner definately did that with Jones, it worked for about 3 games.

Also, how do we know Jones didn't go to Turner and say "Don't bother offering me a contract, i'm leaving no matter what."

I'd be disheartened if I seen inferior players selected time after time irrespective of performance. When staff are demotivated look at their management first.

In your working lives, who of you haven't been pissed off because of what you percieved to be an incompetent manager? How did that affect your work performance? and why would that be any different just because your job is kicking a ball about?

Good points. Very true. It's something that needs looking at.

We don't know what the plans are for next season about the starting 11. There were people on here advocating Humphreys as a potential manager/assistant. How do we know that this is not the plan for the future, hence the retained list?

As long as he's only the driver.

and therein lies the root of many many problems.

i've just actually vomitted in the bin under my desk at work at the thought of paying £18 to watch antony sweeney run around a like a f*cking mong again next season.

jesus christ.