Anyone know what this is all about?

[Gibsons Beard]

This has nothing to do with Pompey or anybody else.
It is to do with the potential damage that our club could suffer.
Is that really too complicated to understand.

The north east of England is full of football loving folk....................how many will be on our side...........regardless of who is in the right??????

We could end up in local folklore..............for all the wrong reasons.

How old is the David v Goliath story???????????????

so are you saying we should just forget the debt?

I think they should. Or take it out of Turners pay-packet.

[Mr Ripper]

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2010/03/04/future-is-bleak-for-billingham-town-as-debt-mounts-84229-25961882/

£10k is the amount.

What I cant understand is how IOR are willing to write off around £1m a year on a football team that gives them some sort of status with their customers and yet a willing to force shut a small local side over £10k, whilst appearing not being willing to negotiate. Fair enough if the amount was £100k but surely not over £10k!

So you know that there's been no negotiations? Tell us the rest then if you seem to know all about it...

[Mr Irrelevant]

“We don’t have the cash. We don’t own the ground or the clubhouse and all the payers pay to play for us. Our only assets are four match balls, two strips and the nets.”

Jesus fuck ing Chris. If this is over a paltry 10k then Pools can fuck right off for me. I'm done with them.

[loan_star]

Im going off the report in the paper and I did say appear unwilling to negotiate.

[misterb2001]

if its over £10,000 then thats embarrasing...

[Mr Ripper]

“We don’t have the cash. We don’t own the ground or the clubhouse and all the payers pay to play for us. Our only assets are four match balls, two strips and the nets.”

Jesus f*** ing Chris. If this is over a paltry 10k then Pools can f*** right off for me. I'm done with them.

If, if and if still though.

Another if... if it is true then I'll be none too pleased with them about it either Mr I, in the same way that yourself and Mr Parmo are pissed off about it.

[Gibsons Beard]

There are always two sides but if Pools dont make their side known then it looks VERY bad on the club.

I cant believe Pools are taking this action over 10k. Turner gets that every fookin week the fat silly boy.

The club are becoming a pack of bounders and if this story is true then feck pools. They can rot

[Compo]

If that report is correct than its a disgrace, I was all for Pools getting their money back but hearing that Pools wont even talk to them and the level to what the clubs owns ie only the balls, strips and nets. Uncle Ken and IOR should hang their heads in shame.

[derwent]

This has nothing to do with Pompey or anybody else.
It is to do with the potential damage that our club could suffer.
Is that really too complicated to understand.

The north east of England is full of football loving folk....................how many will be on our side...........regardless of who is in the right??????

We could end up in local folklore..............for all the wrong reasons.

How old is the David v Goliath story???????????????

so are you saying we should just forget the debt?

At the end of the day it just might be our best option, maybe after attempting to restructure it.
I would rather do that than have the death of a local long standing football club on my hands.

Look, knowing IOR as we do, there is no doubt in my mind that we are perfectly within our right to pursue a debt, if that is what we are doing.

I am more concerned about the consequences, that's all.

Mr Ripper, I don't understand your reverting to type gibe, nor can I find any reference to the name you called me.
You calling my post stupid is an exact example of reverting to type............it is something you always do when people disagree with you.
My reference to winning isn't mine actually...........I picked it up from Margaret Thatcher's father who once told his daughter that when people start insulting you during a debate then you have won and they have lost. You being an admirer of the said lady and an advocate of her party should really empathise with that.
Laddie is a well known endearment I picked up whilst working with a bunch of jocks. It means I love you really.

[misterb2001]

the worst thing is (again, IF its true) is that we could all chip in a couple of quid at the next home game and would probably cover most of the debt...

[Gibsons Beard]

but hearing that Pools wont even talk to them

Shome mishtake shurely.

As if pools would stay mute and not bother to communicate with people (apart from their own close nit community of chums obviously)

[The Lightning Tree]

Thats what their committee man has quoted.
Maybe he's not telling the whole truth.
Anyway, whats everyone going to do about it, stop going to pools?
I might not enjoy IORs choice of managers but they have given us days we could never have dreamed of.
And now people are getting all worked up and threatening not to go
If they owe it then the money should be paid, whether thats weekly monthly or whatever.

[derwent]

This has nothing to do with Pompey or anybody else.
It is to do with the potential damage that our club could suffer.
Is that really too complicated to understand.

The north east of England is full of football loving folk....................how many will be on our side...........regardless of who is in the right??????

We could end up in local folklore..............for all the wrong reasons.

How old is the David v Goliath story???????????????

so are you saying we should just forget the debt?

He's just trying to be clever and jumping on the latest bandwagon. It's what he does and it seems to make the old bugger happy.

Your love for me is so touching.

[Compo]

It comes down to the simple point is £10,000 worth not looking like gits to the rest of the football league and the region as a whole, damaging our reputation in the process.

The answer is easy

[Mr Ripper]

Thats what their committee man has quoted.
Maybe he's not telling the whole truth.

EXACTLY!

[Mr Ripper]

Mr Ripper, I don't understand your reverting to type gibe, nor can I find any reference to the name you called me.
You calling my post stupid is an exact example of reverting to type............it is something you always do when people disagree with you.
My reference to winning isn't mine actually...........I picked it up from Margaret Thatcher's father who once told his daughter that when people start insulting you during a debate then you have won and they have lost. You being an admirer of the said lady and an advocate of her party should really empathise with that.
Laddie is a well known endearment I picked up whilst working with a bunch of jocks. It means I love you really.

You know exactly what the name refers to Mr Tickwattywent, pleading ignorance doesn't change that fact.

As for your reference to insulting you?

You said that I failed to grasp something I said that your post was stupid, which it was. So who was insulting who first? This latest post of yours may surpass that previous one in stupidness however.

[parmopooly]

Ripper wind yer neck in - it is £10,449-97 this is what was on the notice pinned to the gate.
I am talking to someone from BTFC as I type this

[derwent]

You see it is starting already. This publicity will do only harm to the club...................my point all along.

I think a damage limitation statement is now needed from the club before this snowballs out of hand.

[Mr Ripper]

there's 2 sides to every argument and at the moment ior seem happy to let only one side of it come out.

appalling p.r. imho.

I agree with that, as I said previously saying nothing will imply that the other side of the story is totally correct.

[parmopooly]

as it happens Derwent has been the best poster on here for months - bar none

[derwent]

Thats what their committee man has quoted.
Maybe he's not telling the whole truth.

EXACTLY!

Aye laddie ...............keep grasping. Soon you'll have to use the other hand to hold on to your straws.

[Mr Ripper]

as it happens Derwent has been the best poster on here for months - bar none

[Mr Ripper]

Thats what their committee man has quoted.
Maybe he's not telling the whole truth.

EXACTLY!

Aye laddie ...............keep grasping. Soon you'll have to use the other hand to hold on to your straws.

You're not even very good at trying to be patronising are you. Never mind, I'm sure that there's something, somewhere that you're good at, it's just a shame that you haven't found what it is yet and are running out of time.

[Tax Paying Poolie]

This thread has descended to a petty name calling childlike squabble. No wonder people don't bother reading this place anymore.

[Gibsons Beard]

as it happens Derwent has been the best poster on here for months - bar none

I concur (but surely you meant 'joint best poster')

[derwent]

This thread has descended to a petty name calling childlike squabble. No wonder people don't bother reading this place anymore.

I agree and apologise for any part I have played.
It is quite remiss of me to descend to acknowledging insulting posts ( something which I normally don't do).

[Mr Irrelevant]

The only possible reason that I can come up with is that Pools want BT to themselves as a reserve and training facility.

[derwent]

as it happens Derwent has been the best poster on here for months - bar none

I concur (but surely you meant 'joint best poster')

Aye, alongside Mr Parmo...................and you of course.

Thanks for your kind words.

[derwent]

The only possible reason that I can come up with is that Pools want BT to themselves as a reserve and training facility.

I also have come to that conclusion.

I can't believe that this has been thought through.

[derwent]

This thread has descended to a petty name calling childlike squabble. No wonder people don't bother reading this place anymore.

True. Derwent, Ripper can you please your argument to another thread, or preferably to PMs. This thread is about something a bit more important than a couple of egos, something you both seem to appreciate when addressing anyone apart from each other.

I agree,Madjohn. I repeat what I said in an earlier post offering my apologies for my part in the spat.
It won't happen again.

[misterb2001]

The only possible reason that I can come up with is that Pools want BT to themselves as a reserve and training facility.

thats looking the most likely with Pools keeping quiet, but what i don't understand is they spent 10 years+ building a network of connections, would they seriously risk that for the sake of a little bit of land?

[Compo]

The only possible reason that I can come up with is that Pools want BT to themselves as a reserve and training facility.

thats looking the most likely with Pools keeping quiet, but what i don't understand is they spent 10 years+ building a network of connections, would they seriously risk that for the sake of a little bit of land?

That sounds like Hartlepool Council

[MutleyRules]

The only possible reason that I can come up with is that Pools want BT to themselves as a reserve and training facility.

I said that a while ago when Mr.Parmo first mentioned this!!!!

If true....SHAMEFUL AND DISGRACEFUL....and I'll be off to watch Berwick Rangers!!!!

POOLS NEED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ASAP....WE ALL NEED TO KNOW THE FACTS!!!!

[Tax Paying Poolie]

Full explanation on who is to blame is now on:

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/ ... 46,00.html

[Mumtaz's rucksack]

Full explanation on who is to blame is now on:

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/ ... 46,00.html

[HUFC Poolie]

Full explanation on who is to blame is now on:

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/ ... 46,00.html

[derwent]

[MutleyRules]

Cruel!!!!

[Mr Ripper]

[poolie bri]

Ripper wind yer neck in - it is £10,449-97 this is what was on the notice pinned to the gate.
I am talking to someone from BTFC as I type this

btfc are saying they,ve hit a wall of silence
welcome to our world if ior dont tell us why they have done this
then i will never go to pools

[mouldy old dough]

When i see Pooliebri saying that i know things are bad.

[stiffupperlip]

May I give you my take on this as a Billingham Town fan. As I understand an agreement was entered into between Billingham Town and Hartlepool United. Part of this agreement was that we would get a pre season friendly every year. As you know, Hartlepool didn't send a team this year, a big fund raiser for us wiped out. Hartlepool United play their reserve team fixtures at Bedford Terrace. On these occasions the ground is staffed by BTFC volunteers, match hospitality (tea, coffe, biscuits etc) are provided by BTFC, the changing rooms are cleaned out by BTFC volunteers, heating in the changing rooms, hot water for showers and floodlights when required are provided by BTFC.
At the start of the current season we were due to play Bishop Auckland in our first home game. When we got to the ground we found that the goalposts had been stolen, not the crossbars, just the posts. The Police were informed. Luckily our junior section agreed to lend us a set of goals so that we could complete the fixture, otherwise we would have incurred a fine. As was reported later in the local press, the goalposts were later located in the Hartlepool are.
I hope you can now see why we at BTFC are feeling a little miffed at the moment.

[poolie bri]

I will go back to what I said on page one of this thread.

And will add:

Why not wait to hear ALL of the FACTS before you fling any more handbags across the room?

Nothing to see here...................yet.

do you think ior will tell us??

[Mr Irrelevant]

I'm even more confused after that. What is the ten grand for?

[Compo]

They were expensive goalposts

[Gibsons Beard]

Something stinks here:

I am not Miss Marple or owt, but.......................................................

How the fook did the crossbars stay up if the posts had been knicked, eh?

Im not sure, but if the crossbars 'stayed up' then chris turner cant have been behind it!!

[retro pools]

Jumping on bandwagons comes to mind.

[PJ_Poolie]

Making assumptions on this matter are dangerous I would advise anyone to sit tight until the facts are established, posting stuff on Internet forums can lead to hassle believe me it's not worth it! If I was the Billingham fan I’d delete my post straight away.

Whatever the facts though this happening is really sad and obviously damaging towards the clubs image whether we are right or wrong- a real shame.

[Gibsons Beard]

Making assumptions on this matter are dangerous I would advise anyone to sit tight until the facts are established, posting stuff on Internet forums can lead to hassle believe me it's not worth it! If I was the Billingham fan I’d delete my post straight away.

Whatever the facts though this happening is really sad and obviously damaging towards the clubs imagine whether we are right or wrong- a real shame.

its damning on pools but i would be more inclined to believe BT than pools these days unless i saw concrete evidence to the contrary.

[The Lightning Tree]

I still want to know why everyone is getting miffed over this.
Anything to have a go at the owners.
I do sympathise with Billingham Town but I'm almost sure Uncle Ken has been or will be in negotiations with them.
We're a professional club and I'm sure this will have been dealt with in a professional manner.
I wonder if IOR had just spent a couple of million on players and we were top of the league there would be the same amount of criticism:)