On the BBC breakfast news they have mentioned that Southend are up in court today facing a winding up order brought by Her Majesties Customs, along with Pompey and Cardiff. If it goes against them that could spell administration and loss of 10 points which would effectively mean Stockport, Southend and Wycome would need snookers to get out of the bottom four.

As much as I don't like to see other clubs struggle like that it's dog eat dog and one less place that Pools could fall into.

am i right in thinking that if southend go under all of the points gained from teams who have played them will be struck off?

SSN said that if Portsmouth were wound up today all results against them would be declared void so all points won against them would be taken away so I presume that also applies to Southend.

If the club is wound any team that got points of them would be lost , if there go in administration and continue to play there remaining fixtures, they will just have 10 points deducted.

so wound up means they will cease to exhisit as of today and admin just means they will be deduced 10 points and continue to play the rest of the season like Palace and Darlo

Well thats the way i understand it . Crystal Palace just had the 10 points deducted the other week ,by going into administration .

If Southend were wound up (I don't think they will be)

then

Wycombe lose 2pts (drew both games with them)

Oldham lose 3
Carlisle lose 3
Tranmere lose 3
Exeter lose 3
Yeovil lose 3

We gain +1 on our goal difference.

Other's of course will lose points but they teams below or around us.

I don't think Southend will be wound-up. That really is a last chance scenario. They will probably go into admin and get the 10 point penalty.

according to Southend they say they don't owe this extra 200 grand, and they are disputing the figures following the 2.1 million they paid earlier.
It will be adjourned at least, and they won't go into admin unless the ruling goes against them.... or otherwise if they just pay up of course

If Portsmouth, Cardiff and even Southend ARE wound up. that would leave three spare places in the football leagues. I cannot see the leagues allowing five teams to be promoted from the conference to fill them so it is highly like that there will be no relegation from League 2. A lifeline for the Loids!

It may also mean one less is relegated from League One (if SOuthend go under).

Conversely, if Cardiff go under, they may allow three teams to go up from League One?


Whatever happens, this could be a disaterous day for football but sadly, even if we lose three clubs, I fear the powers that be will still not sit up and take notice. Dodgy Chairman will still be allowed to run clubs, they will still fork out ridiculous wage packets to very average foreigners and carry on as if nothing had happened.

Football desperately needs to implode sooner rather than later and for a "big" club like Liverpool or Man Utd to go belly up or it will continue to move further and further away from the fans. I wouldn't wish extinction on any club but I'm afraid I cannot see any other solution than for one of the top four to disappear in order that the authorities take their heads out of their arses.

I've been advocating that for a few years now Mr Chunky
That's exactly what needs to happen

The difference between the Southends of this world and the Man Uniteds is.... Southend and the likes owe money directly to the tax man etc who WILL issue winding up petitions, whereas Man United owe theirs to large financial institutions and such like.
This is because the banks and big lenders/investors will give their money to Man United, whereas who will lend it to Southend United? They have nobody to turn to in order to bail themselves out....... that is the only difference between them
They are both guilty of the same thing though - living beyond their means

The Southend case has indeed be adjourned by 28 days.

I fully expected that, and a deal should be thrashed out which not only stops them from being wound up - but also stops them from having to go into administration
I hope they pull through it, it's a proper club with proper fans and a good day out as well

I hope they learn their lesson though, to live within their means unless they are fortunate enough to have a very solvent backer

Please let it be Arsenal and Chelski
please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please

fans stay away because they can't afford to go
I can remember going to Brighton by car in the early 90's, having a good day on the drink, scran, getting into the match, a good drink on the way home and it cost about 60 quid all in.
That wouldn't even pay the petrol money hardly these days, then it's about a fiver just to buy some cheap junk food item, near enough 3 quid a pint down south, then 20 -odd bar just to get in

The admission prices are shocking in Championship and Premier level, and ridiculous for L1 and L2 levels. That is exclusively because of the stupidity of club owners and football players/agents being greedy
F-uck them. They should play for expenses and be part timers, and get a real job like it used to be.
Then you'd see local players playing for local teams with real passion for the game

Non league amateur football is most pure form of the game now. I wouldn't care less if the pro game in this country went tits up
I hope it f-ucking does
I hope no f-ucker pays for Sky and the likes - I certainly don't and never will

It needs to collapse and start again. That would be exciting for all true fans I think

I bet you were driving an' all.

I still don't think we need to rely on Southend losing points. I've just been through the predictor thingy on the BBC and even with a pessimistic view of our results I got us to finish with 52 points in 16th place. I have a feeling we will get even more than that though, so not to worry

If we keep playing the way we have been recently, we wont have to worry who is losing points.

That's fine but playing well is not getting us points is it? We still need to get the points regardless of how we play especially as teams like Tranny, Brighton and Carlisle have seen an upturn in form. It illustrates how shit we've been when Tranny who were diabolical for the first 10-15 games are now only three points away and have a game in hand. I still can't help but feel nervous as we've seen us play well before and start thinking this is it only for the team to play insipid football and lose the next game. Huddersfield and Carlisle at home are immense games and we need 4-6 points.

Shit i wish we were playing this week.

It was just unfortunate that our upturn in form came against Norwich and Leeds, otherwise we may have gained more points. I'm confident we can get some decent results over the next few weeks.

As long as the Premiership remains untouched by financial reality, everyone else in the Leaguie could go bust...an exception being made for those failed teams with a big fan base who'd be welcomed into the Premiership to replace your Burnley's, Wigans, Blackburns etc and then consolidate it into one uber selective, finacially exclusive relegation free money making machine.

the very thing the Football League did their best to avoid being created all those years ago.... in those days the authorities ruled the game... now in reality the big clubs do

if that happens it will make shopping on a saturday seem tempting

"It's cheap, it's cheerful, it's non-league and I want to see you there!" (Russ the Cabbie, The Non League Show from BBC London)

I've got Droylsden down the road, Curzon Ashton not much further, and unless Pools are playing, I'm more likely to head there than ever go to Eastlands, even though I'm half hour walk from it....

When it happens, shopping on a Saturday should be made compuisory!