can not believe they dropped 10 players for tonights game at man u. Whats the point in gettin into the top flight then in the big games, the ones you get in there for, you drop your best players giving you zero chance of winning? If turner done that at leeds on boxing day everyone would be livid i'm sure

Must have thought its a no win situation so rested them still its strange

Bigger, more important game on Sunday. I can see why he did it.

I can to some point may improve their chances of a result

It may also cost him his job the way the papers are reacting this morning.

That's exactly what I was thinking. It is disgusting.

yeah martin oneill thought that too and dropped all his best players last saturday and villa got lashed too didn't they?

Villa are currently the 3rd best team in the country, have some excellent players and have won away at Liverpool and beat Chelsea at home. Wolves haven't.

hth.

So let me get this straight, your a wolves fan for a minute here, you travel to OT, your thinking yessss we've hit the big time, no more scunny away or owt like that, you get there, soak up the atmosphere, look at the programme, get in carricks at centre back and fletcher is at right back, let's get at these fuckers early on...

And you then look at your team and your playing the sodding ressies.

£30 a ticket, £30 to travel up, afternoon off work, few beers, programme, hot dog, £15 extra...

and you would be happy with this would you?

if i was a wolves fan there last night i would be fuming

At what point did I say I agreed with what he did you fcking krank? I said I can understand why he did it. You're almost as stupid as that woody from Leads who doesn't read posts properly.

Even if they'd played the first team they wouldn't have got fck all so I understand where he is coming from, they have Burnley on Sunday which is as big as they come when you're down the bottom of the league and it'll be their 3rd game in 8 days. Chasing shadows for 90 minutes around Old Trafford isn't the best preparation for a game like that is it?

Of course I wouldn't be happy as a fan but if they win on Saturday and stay up then I am sure they won't give a sh*t.

Plus it was £42 quid for a ticket. And I don't buy programmes or hot dogs.

Not wanting to discuss this in anymore detail with you cos your clearly a retard, but wolves could not have picked a better time to play at old trafford, totally there for the taking, should of had a go.

You should only look as far as your next game.

So what if they then lose to burnley? Just makes last night even stupider.

I wouldn't necessarily rest an entire team but, I too can see where he is coming from. He is not the first premiership manager to prioritise matches, the big four do it all the time when it comes to cups. He has decided to extend the philosophy to league games.

Why is there so much uproar over this? Mick McCarthy picked the team. He is the manager and can pick whichever teams he likes. If he want's to rest players then it's entirely up to him.

Why doesn't Fergson and Wenger get the same grief whenever they do it which they do all to regularly?

Because they can field a second eleven that can still beat most of the Premiership teams.

In a cup match the only people affected by a weakened team is the team itself. It's a one off match with no bearing on any other team. In a league it affects all the other teams competing in that league.

I don't understand MM decision and I wounldn't understand CT decision if he did the same at Leeds

Couldn't have picked a better time to have gone to Old Trafford? Thats like saying there isn't a better time to be at the front of the queue for Death Row.

Man United would have beat Wolves first team last night. I can't believe you can think anything else would have happened. They have a few injuries but they still had Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Scholes, Valencia, Berbatov and Rooney starting and then the small matter of Micheal Owen and Fletcher. A similar team just beat Wolfsburg 3-1 away and West Ham 4-0 away in the last 2 weeks. But yeah, little Wolves would have turned up at Man U and given them a right battering wouldn't they?!

I'm not saying I agree with McCarthy and I'd be fuming as a Wolves fan if I'd have gone but I can totally understand why he did it last night. Shame your little brain can quite grasp it.

If every team went to old trafford and adopted that attitude no one would ever win there, i'm afraid your totally wrong on every single level possible, and you've even invented new levels just to be wrong on.

Granted they still had good players out, but they had to centre midfielders in defence, if ever there was a team to get at them, as villa proved, this was the time.

McCarthy got it wrong, totally wrong.

It could set a dangerous precedent too. Teams may accept that they wont get anything against Man U & Chelsea so they all just field weakened teams handing easy points and the title to one of them. Admittedly its one of those two who usually win it but at least they have to fight for every point.

All this and the smaller teams get punished for playing a weakend sides!!!

Pools did even though we won!!????


JUSTICE!

Good point.

Let's all just do a wolves and accept our place in football from now on, we are playing at the top 4, no point in trying to win, they are the top 4.

We are hartlepool, we have never been above league one, so why try?

If everyone done what wolves done there would be no point in even playing.

Excellent point, Mr. Yubep.

What about the Wolves fans themselves Teeside? Surely they'd say "We did not pay to support our team in an effort to get to the Big Time, to then go and put a reserve side out at Old Trafford against the Champions."

How anyone can say that they understand why McCarthy did this is either on the wind up or needs to seek help.

Birmingham City played Manure earlier in the season and they were there for the taking. They played for a draw and ended up getting beaten despite the fact that Manure were gash.

Had they won this game, they'd now be 5th in the Premier league.

People whinge like feck about the so called big four but with attitudes like McCarthy, things will never ever change.

Little wonder how they (and Chelsea) win so many titles. It's made ridiculously easy for them

If I was a Wolves fan, i'd ask for a full refund and travelling expenses.

No.

It's the manager's job to pick his own team. The fans and media don't have a say in who plays. The manager will live and die by his own decisions. Leave it up to him to play who he wants. It's downright ridiculous that people are moaning about this.

Surely, you can not be serious, Teeside?

In my opinion, the fans are the lifeblood of the Club. You can't afford to anger them by sending a reserve side to play the greatest Club side arguably in the world. You certainly can't afford to lose any of your support.

I never said that. What I said was that the fans and media have no say in who plays. That is the managers decision. I agree with the fans part of your comment, but the manager has to do what he believes is right for the club.

TQ - how would you like it, if the club you support, allowed to travel great distances to watch them, then when you got there, just put out a shit team, and lo........

oh i best not ask that actually

Surely if a player is on the books then he is eliglble to play. A club has to use its entire squad not just a chosen few. Unless of course your name is Jonny Rowell and then you never get a game.

But how on earth can anyone say that fielding TEN RESERVES against Manchester United is right for the Club?

Look its dead simple. McCarthy knows that this was not one of his important games so he played a lesser teams. The crucial games for the likes of Wolves are those against the likes of Bolton, Hull, Burnley etc not Man United and Chelsea.

I would be fookin livid if Turner pulled a stunt like that, i'd like to think we'd go into every game thinking no matter what we have a chance of winning.

If we strut into elland road resting 10 players on boxing day there is no way mr.i you can tell me you'd support turners decision to do this as we have a home game 3 days later which he felt we had more chance of winning?

i hope it comes back to bite them on the arse and they end up going down.... McCarthy should stop trying to be innovative and look like a good manager. I hope Wolves get stuffed at the weekend, if they do there will be a lot of Wolves fans turning on the boss and rightly so.

And hopefully Turner hasn't got any daft ideas from this episode....

i can see both sides of the argument........but i only agree with one.

If CT did this then there would be a mob baying for his blood.

Bad craic from McCarthy IMO.

So these two are allowed to fully utilise the use of the squads when they see fit because they have the luxury of having big squads full of talent? But if one of the little nobody outfits try doing it then they are in the wrong?

Seems crazy to me.

Exactly.

Miss POK?

We'd all be annoyed if our manager did that, there's no question about that.

However, from an outside point of view and if you look at it objectively, it could prove to be a very wise move from MM. They were NEVER going to get sod all at Old Trafford last night, as much as yubep says they have a couple of injuries, they are leap years ahead of teams like Wolves and few teams get anything there nevermind Wolves. Wolves have a huge 6 pointer on Saturday, if they can win then it'll be 6 points from 9.

I don't agree with it, but I can sure as hell understand why he did it and he has shown immense bravery doing it. Fortune follows the brave they say....

So we would all be livid if Turner did it.
Right that gets our opinion on our manager doing it out of the way.
Back to the thread.................nobody, and I mean nobody, is agreeing with McCarthy on this issue.
What some people are saying is that they can see where he is coming from.
Is that so difficult to understand.

Oh and if you insist on getting Turner involved, maybe someone should point out to Turner that at least McCarthy is TRYING something different.
Whether he is right or wrong will be determined by his employers.

For the record I can't stand McCarthy.

There is another possibility though............how do we know that it was actually McCarthy's decision.

I'd like to think McCarthy is the sort of bloke who wont stand for any extrnal interference so if someone told him (or even suggested to him) which team he should pick, he would either tell them where to go or walk away.

Ahem, Liverpool have been replaced by Villa.

I would agree with your analysis of McCarthy.........BUT..........there is nothing stopping him taking his idea to the chairman saying that there is bound to be a furore if I do this...what do you think Mr Chairman..........Chairman says do it and then adds..this is purely down to you Mick.
I'm not suggesting that the chairman would walk into the manager's office with a team sheet in his hand, I am suggesting that something as controversial as this, with it's implications on the football club, MAY have had the Chairman's blessing, or at least his input.
Basically I'm saying that all the facts are not yet on the table so if others can feel free to speculate and criticise, then moi is having a go.

Another Ahem.

The premiership is split already mate.
Got nothing to do with team selection or McCarthy..............the reason is called financial clout.

No need to shout!!!!!!!
It's all about degrees though mate. McCarthy's decision is highlighted by the fact he made ten changes. Other managers may rest just one, two or three key players. That could have the same affect on the result.
There is more to this than meets the eye.
Do you want a limit on how many changes a manager can make from one game to another?
The teams you mentioned in your premier 1 make changes all the time, sometimes calling it squad rotation.
Would McCarthy have been justified to rest say three key players, keeping them fresh for the Burnley game?
He could have said they had "niggles"
You need to be aware of what you are, perhaps inadvertantly, calling for.
What limit do you think is realistic when it comes to changes??????