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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:38 pm 
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Hoofball is still taking part at Victoria PaRK I see. Again long high balls to the fornt men, totally missing out our non existant midfield. To be honest it was only when Bjornsson came on that we stopped hitting as many high balls sctatchinghead Taking Brown off was a joke, Turner again keeping his bum chum Sweeney on all game was another joke. Behan had another off day and rightly subbed. To be honest I was stood there bored as hell for 82 minutes. Just a shame it took them till 8 minutes left to finally start playing.

On the plus side Austin actually looked like a full back and got forward well and Bjornsson looks decent and seems to have great awareness and a good touch. Liddle again played very well.

Untill we sort out the central midfield then I cant see much changing.

Turner out.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:44 pm 
Totally agree (about the midfield quote). We have struggled every home league game this season, the midfield needs sorting ASAP or performances like todays will continue unabated.

Not sure how Collins got MOTM either. Was Liddle (again) for me, though Monkhouse had a good game also.


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:50 pm 
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Oh for fooks sake.
We have the either the lowest or second lowest average attendence in the league, we never spend much money and we're sitting nicely in Mid-table.
Sacking the manager will do what exactly?


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:52 pm 
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Hang on a minute, the team on paper is as strong as anyone ive seen at pools over the last 25 years if not the strongest. Today was awful and we were lucky to get a point.
Taking Browny off was a foooking insult.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:58 pm 
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you mean James Brown who missed our best chance of the first half and went on to only create one other chance within the half. I am a firm believe of players of his style should be kept on. But his replacement in Boyd went on to win us a point. And could easliy have won us all 3. he created much more. How can taking James Brown who had a poor game off be an insult. Anyone should be able to be subbed if there not playing well. Maybe that is the problem. Turners inability to sub certain players when there not having the best of games.

but i do agree with the fact our midfield once again was missing. Sweeney for me has been the single player this season yet to show us what he does best. Which is attack, therfore he needs to shown the subs bench for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:01 pm 
agree with the sweeny point, really cant understand how he seems to be an automatic choice - he offers nothing at the moment. At last we look like we have a proper full back, even in 20 mins on the pitch head and shoulders above anything we have seen in that position so far this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
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At least Brown gets into positions and also creates chances, the service to him today was awful. Oh and he can also control a ball and hold off his man something that Behn failed to do.
Therefore Behan deserved to be subbed and turner should have played 3 up front, Brown, Boyd and the new lad.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:12 pm 
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We failed yet again to win at home, 5 home games and 1 point!!! This needs sorting immediately. We cant rely on our away form.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:19 pm 
See what happens when Boyd is played with a proper strike partener who can win the balls further down and leave him poaching in the box clappp

Well done Adam you sure proved the clown stood infront of me wrong as he soon snuck away after your goal :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
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you mean James Brown who missed our best chance of the first half and went on to only create one other chance within the half. I am a firm believe of players of his style should be kept on. But his replacement in Boyd went on to win us a point. And could easliy have won us all 3. he created much more. How can taking James Brown who had a poor game off be an insult. Anyone should be able to be subbed if there not playing well. Maybe that is the problem. Turners inability to sub certain players when there not having the best of games.

but i do agree with the fact our midfield once again was missing. Sweeney for me has been the single player this season yet to show us what he does best. Which is attack, therfore he needs to shown the subs bench for me.



Couldn't agree more re Brown. He didn't have a great game and created very little. Yes, the service was poor but that was unlikely to change was it? When were 0-1 down at home and needing a goal, those substitutes were the right choice.

Please please please stop hoofing the ball to giant central defenders. Duberry (former premiership defender) must have really enjoyed his afternoon, as have all of the other central defenders who have visited the Vic this season. We're more predicatble than a referee giving a late penalty at Old Trafford at the minute!

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:23 pm 
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The Lightning Tree wrote:
We failed yet again to win at home, 5 home games and 1 point!!! This needs sorting immediately. We cant rely on our away form.


To be absolutely accurate it's 4 home games and 1 point, no matter how well you play in cup games they will never award any league points for the result.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Sorry i'm counting the burnley game :uhoh:

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No harm done. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
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I thought McSweeney looked a bright spark in the centre of midfield. I'd have hauled Sweeney off and kept Jones in the centre with McSweeney and moved Brown out wide. Look at the joy Monkhouse had against the full backs (though his final ball was woeful). If Brown had have had the freedom to do that then who knows? Instead we just knocked it long again, and I can't remember Bjornnson winning a header to be honest.


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:39 pm 
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Mcsweeney did look better when he moved inside but his corners and crosses are woeful.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:42 pm 
Kolley Kibber wrote:
I thought McSweeney looked a bright spark in the centre of midfield. I'd have hauled Sweeney off and kept Jones in the centre with McSweeney and moved Brown out wide. Look at the joy Monkhouse had against the full backs (though his final ball was woeful). If Brown had have had the freedom to do that then who knows? Instead we just knocked it long again, and I can't remember Bjornnson winning a header to be honest.



But he never wasted a ball when he came on, a lot better than Behan


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HUFC Poolie wrote:
Kolley Kibber wrote:
I thought McSweeney looked a bright spark in the centre of midfield. I'd have hauled Sweeney off and kept Jones in the centre with McSweeney and moved Brown out wide. Look at the joy Monkhouse had against the full backs (though his final ball was woeful). If Brown had have had the freedom to do that then who knows? Instead we just knocked it long again, and I can't remember Bjornnson winning a header to be honest.



But he never wasted a ball when he came on, a lot better than Behan


He never wasted a ball when it was put to his feet, a little bit different than when it's put to him in the air every 3 out of 4 times.


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
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Well I saw him win a few headers and most landed at our mens feet. Looked good with feet and head.

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Bjornsson collected the ball well every time it went near him, had a good touch for a big man and played people in well to retain the ball for the team. He did a hell of a lot better than Behan, definitely. Sweeney was absolutely dire, if he starts again next week something is wrong. He deserves to be dropped.
Austin was superb when he came on - he is better than the other two full backs put together and he showed it. What worries me is that Turner will not see this and put him back on the bench again.

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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:58 am 
The comments slating Turner for taking off Brown are :roll: stpid

FFS He has just came back from a very serious injury and the last time he was left on for 90 minutes at Gillingham he didn't play for over a week because he his knee flared up. He is being eased back he played an hour last week he played an hour on Saturday surely you can appreciate that is sensible?


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
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Good thread this, got to agree with the following:

Sweeney is inept needs a spell on the bench or reserves
Performance was inept until last 8 minutes
Liddle was mom
Manager didn't have a clue how to break them down
Hartley not good at left back, his replacement was!
Turner does some things well but tactics not a strong point at home are they?

Summary: we have needed a left back for 4-5 years as well as a decent central midfield pairing. We have doubled up on most of the other positions but failed to get a decent player for these crucial positions.


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 Post subject: Re: Dull
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:15 pm 
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Again long high balls to the fornt men, totally missing out our non existant midfield.


Well if they get missed out, surely they can't play silky incisive football. Unless they build a fookin lighthouse in the middle of the pitch. one catches it in a bucket and throws it down to the other one.

Ah well, there's no shaggin' biscuits in the house. Not that I wanted one, but they should be there and be delicious. stpid


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Agree with most of what has been said, but looking at the positive's, after conceding a soft goal Turner made changes and actually gave the lads who came on a decent amount of time to have an impact for a change. Other positive's include the performance of Austin who looked a good player, Boyd also played well and has to start the next game.

i don't think we are far away from having a really good team, everyone recognises the weak link so i am sure that a central midfielder is close to the top of priorities for Pools management.....


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:13 pm 
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I'd say we are only 1 short. A decent attacking midfielder. I'm hoping Freddy can fill that role.

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Jonny wrote:
Agree with most of what has been said, but looking at the positive's, after conceding a soft goal Turner made changes and actually gave the lads who came on a decent amount of time to have an impact for a change. Other positive's include the performance of Austin who looked a good player, Boyd also played well and has to start the next game.

i don't think we are far away from having a really good team, everyone recognises the weak link so i am sure that a central midfielder is close to the top of priorities for Pools management.....



But the transfer market is closed and Turner says he doesnt believe in getting players in on loan? :roll:

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Jonny wrote:
Agree with most of what has been said, but looking at the positive's, after conceding a soft goal Turner made changes and actually gave the lads who came on a decent amount of time to have an impact for a change. Other positive's include the performance of Austin who looked a good player, Boyd also played well and has to start the next game.

i don't think we are far away from having a really good team, everyone recognises the weak link so i am sure that a central midfielder is close to the top of priorities for Pools management.....



But the transfer market is closed and Turner says he doesnt believe in getting players in on loan? :roll:


Well it's about time he wither changed his beliefs or started to blood new players like Rowell. Maybe Humpreys is going to come back and play the defensive midfield role? If he could be trained to be disciplined and just sit in front of the back four and spread the ball wide when he won it then I personally think it is a more viable option than continuing with what we are doing....


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But the transfer market is closed and Turner says he doesnt believe in getting players in on loan? :roll:


Shite yet again unsurprisingly

He said he would rather sign players on a permanent basis if possible (and who wouldn't?). But he is not averse to using the loan market. See Nardiello, Skarz, Parker etc.

( :roll: <- can we bin this? It appears to be only used by dullards )



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