10,613 saw Oxford United beat Luton Town 2-0 at the Kassam Stadium in the Blue Square Premier. Oxford are now 5 points clear at the top.

Are you an idiot PoK, as ADG said making that point also makes Pools look poor. Also take into the fact that Oxford is a large city with a large University surrounded by no other Football team so have a much larger captchment area for support.

Honestly do you actually realise what your writing, with every post you express that you dont have the brains and sence you were born with.

Yeah, but come on, put it into perspective, Darlo will have a 25,000 seater stadium if and when they are in the Blue Square Premier. Will they fill it? I doubt it.

It would be more humiliating for them being in there still and not being able to fill their arena.

Anyway, they must have built a 25,000 seater stadium because they believed that Darlo would have a large catchment area themselves.

Anyway, we've only got a 7,000 capacity - how can it put shame on us, when we're satisfied with the facilities that we have for the time being?

Surely, you've just contradicted yourself there, Compo, by saying it makes 'Pools look bad for those people from the town that aren't attending, but then you admitting "Well, Oxford is a major city isn't it?".

I makes pools look poor as we cannot get them type of crowds when a conference side can. But potentially we could get them crowds if everyone in the town supported the club not Newcastle,Boro etc, hense why I said there is no other team around Oxford.

Also the Kassam holds 12,500 seats so they didnt fill their ground.

what a doyle

Dont you know PoK loves Oxford for some mad reason other than his Dad taught there. Wait till the boat race comes round again he will be cock-a-hoop

Attendances at 'Pools may not be as good as we'd hoped, and they can be better, but I think we'd rather get the attendances that we're getting that drop down to the dangerous levels Darlo have been reaching lately.

I posted this to make the point that those dangerous levels could really be put to shame by other teams in a League that is a step down the ladder, so to speak.

again what a doyle

I am sorry but are you mad. The reason Oxford get a large crowd as there is no other team (other than Swindon) around that area (combined with the fact its a city) so they will always get large crowds, unlike Darlo and Pools irrespective or their position. You are comparing two things that are not remotely similar, look at Newcastle they have a massive attendance larger than say Wigan, why arnt you making the same point about those two. "oh Wigan should be worried look at Newcastles attendance and they are in a league below"

Its like me comparing your common sense with everyone else’s.

When Darlo built their stadium, there must have been a point where they had to decide how big in capacity they wanted their new stadium to be. They must have based that decision on the belief they had the capability to climb up the League and that as they were to do so, more fans would decide to support them etc. Of course, we know that that doesn't totally work because of five year plans, other clubs in the area etc.

That's the most foolish thing for me, building a 25,00 seater stadium in the belief that the Club would go on to bigger and better things if the Club thought bigger, to then only be told by the Council that you can only have a safety certificate for 10,000 people.

That was the biggest mistake made between Darlington Borough Council Darlington FC, as well as allowing the Club to go into administration. Hypothetically, if financial irregularities happened at a Club that I was running, I would order a root and branch investigation and heads would roll accordingly. That didn't happen at Darlo and as a result of that, they got punished with points deducted and we all know what happens to teams that have points deducted for those reasons...

They based it purely on the intelligence level of George Reynolds, and he's a moron.

The reason it was decided to be that size was made by the bloke who owned it to fit his big head and ego in it.

Why did I open this post.

someone find me the picture of him from star trek please, only he can sum this post up...

Ripper, exactly, Reynolds made one fatal flaw in my opinion: he underestimated the unpredictable nature of football itself.

Ambition itself is a healthy thing to have in any football Club, but sometimes people have difficulty dealing with happens in the present, let alone try to plan ahead for the future.

And you have made a massive fatal flaw in this post mr kent - you posted it!

The title of my post says "An attendance that shames Darlo".

Nowhere in that title, is any intended criticism meant towards attendances at 'Pools.

But it indirectally does its like saying, "economic standards have dropped in the north-east with the largest drop seen in Darlo." your just pointing out the fact that the north-east as a whole has dropped.

But it indirectally does its like saying, "economic standards have dropped in the north-east with the largest drop seen in Darlo." your just pointing out the fact that the north-east as a whole has dropped.

I actually make no point in my original post that would suggest that I think that is the case, because I find that to be totally and utterly rubbish.

I talk about Darlo as being just one football Club that I'm talking about. The North-East as a whole has got nothing to do with what I want to say about Darlo.

PoK: "Reynolds made one fatal flaw in my opinion: he underestimated the unpredictable nature of football itself."
1, He didn't make a "flaw" he made a mistake.
2, He didn't only make one, he made many. Big ones.
3, Darlo's ground is that size because GR ignored everybody who told him it was too big.
4, Darlo's crowds are low because they are in deep financial sh** and they are losing. Pools crowds would be crap in the same situation.
5, Oxford population estimate 150,000, including 30,000 full-time students. They got such a big crowd because thousands travelled from Luton (pop 184,000) about 50 miles away.

Bamboo, whether it was a flaw, error or mistake, it was illjudged.

No, I agree with you on Point two, there were other factors as well.

On Point 3, if Reynolds had been less over-bearing, Darlo would definitely not be losing money through empty seats at the arena.

On Point 4, surely it's at these times where people should be trying to get behind their football Club a la Accrington?

Point 5 is a factor as well, although it will be interesting to see what Oxford's next home attendance is and see how many people decide to see....Eastbourne at home for example.

my mrs said we are all mad

Pok why do you put additional points onto your posts that is only going to cause people to jump down your throat. Its obvious why Oxford had a large crowd and you cant see it, same with the fact why pool and darlo have low crowds. Simpily saying that Darlo thought they would have a large captionment area and why they built the staidum is wrong and very blinkered. GR did it and him being him thought he was correct and everyone else was wrong. On another thread someone mentioned that darlo dont every have saftey reg's in place for a crowd over 10,000 so they could never get this anyway.

POK nowhere in your original post do you put any sort of blame on the crowd capacity of Darlo's ground. You ,whether intentionally or mistakenly insinuate that Oxford's attendance last night of over 10,000 puts Darlo's attendances to shame. While other posters then point out that if it puts Darlo to shame ,on the same level it then has to put Pools home attendances to shame.After all 10,000 is approx two and halves times more than our attendance.

If reynolds made a big mistake,for whatever reasons, building the "White Elephant" of a stadium then the subject topic you gave to this thread is a

Enormous, huge, Gargantuan, humongous, Jumbo, Massive, Gigantic mistake...take your pick of whichever best describes it

TOPIC SUBJECT IS AN ATTENDANCE THAT PUTS DARLO TO SHAME.

Use your uni education

My point is if Darlo continue to get the same sort of dropping attendances that they've been getting in League Two, if current trends continue, then one can only imagine the numbers of attendances that they could get compared to other Blue Square Premier sides if they get relegated.

And if my aunty had balls she would be my uncle

Aye pok ,slap your head man .

whay cant you see that your points have no relevance

You dont make any point towards that statement in your post. As someone said on here "stop digging" yourself into a bigger hole.

If that was your intention then you dont need to use other clubs (whatever division they in) in comparision to Darlo's

You could have picked any Darlo home game quoted their attendance and went from there.

You asked for everything you got in this post because of the topic subject you used.

Have some thoughts prior to posting we have all done it but without seeming as if Im victimising or bullying you, you do it more than most. And leave yourself open to having the mick taken

Talk about being obsessed with Darlo!!! I thought we weren't your rivals anymore? The Oxford attendance puts all league 2 & quite a few League 1 clubs to shame. When was the last time Pools had a crowd anywhere near that? You can only dream of crowds like that at your place......as we do as well......but thanks to Reynolds ego trip at least we have the facility to accomodate a crowd like that.

No, you misunderstand. There's only PoK gives a flying fart. Me, and a lot of others, are looking forward to the next few weeks in League 1.

Sorry mate, who do you support again??

your clearly obsessed with pools or you wouldn't be on our board all the time

Im not on all the time but since I know 1 or 2 Pools fans I keep an eye on things

Maybe you should have been keeping an eye on your team's bank statements and balance sheets for the last five years....

Grammmaar dunt mattar ne more

Spender, the only reason why I give a "flying fart" is that thinking about it from a neutral perspetcive, it's absolutely terrible that a football club should get into such a bad position financially and is now on the verge of oblivion.

But if the worst happens for Darlo, then they will only have themselves to blame in my opinion!

Sorry mate, I'm not with the bullies and I don't wish to browbeat, but this isn't the place to express a viewpoint from a neutral perspective. It's a Hartlepool United sort of place. You need www.lillyliveredliberal.com. Anyway, who says they're on the verge of oblivion?? You do, based on the attendance for a pisspot trophy match versus a top of the table Conference match between two ex-league clubs with respectable numbers through the turnstiles. Calm down, take a step back and stop emoting for once.

Mine and a lot of other viewpoints recently declared is that it's a shame when any club gets taken to the cleaners but it's not us so, y'know, hey ho.......

Darlo's last home attendances:

1,821 v Crewe
1,840 v Cheltenham
828 v Lincoln
Next home game...against the mighty Bournemouth!

To what new low will their home attendance sink to this time?

Oy Shanghai Lil, your previous comments about only having themselves to blame about the stadium is wrong as I thought earlier on in the thread you said GR was to blame.

George Reynolds = Darlington Football Club = themselves to blame!

So it would've been our fault (i.e. the fans) if Gibson had bust us?

I was too young at the time to remember what the circumstances were around that time unfortunately.

And your to much of an idiot saying George Reynolds = Darlo.