I'm surprised at the number of casuals, 20 did you say????

Come on 34 more posts and we've made the thousand.

Did you bunk off Maths at school?

I was waiting for someone to twig that.

GCSEs and A levels are mostly coursework now. With access to all the resources on the internet, sample essays, synopsis of topics, study forums etc. Any kid who works hard enough should achieve grades that were a lot more difficult for us who didn't have access to such things and had to do just exams for our grades.

for the 756th time i WASNT FOOKING HAVING A GO AT HIM FOR WORKING AT THE BATHS. FFS TRY READING THE FOOKING THREAD.

snowy said until last year he had been working within an educational enviroment, and i stated that i thought he worked at the baths.

clearly i am wrong, clearly there is all manner of research into post graduate literacy going on there, and everyone who works there knows absolutely everything about everything.

and yes you are right, all 19 year olds should have the same knowledge as people in their 40's, because everyone working at the baths knew absolutely everything in the world by that age.

clearly thats where we are going wrong in this country. the people running the baths should be running the country and the current cabinet should be running the baths.

I wasnt going to contribute here but what the hell.

If you are of the opinion that schools and hospitals have improved that much over the 10-15 years, you must also accept that a good part of that success is down to PFI. private finance initiative.

Which was introduced in 1992 by the John Major government.

Something I am pretty sure this government is deadly against.

I don't buy the Express but someone had it at work so I was flicking through at the weekend and there was an interesting article about a brother and sister who were at opposite ends of the working spectrum. The sister was ambitious, hard working and earnt her crust whilst the brother sat on his arse playing his computer all day with the usual attitude of 'I can't earn this money if I get a job so why should I bother'. He has 4 kids between him and his partner from her previous relationship, neither of them work.

This country would be a far better place if people like this were sterilised, if you can support yourself then you shouldn't be allowed to have kids. These kids don't have a chance in life and they'll more than likely follow (like most of us do) in similar footsteps to our parents. There are 2 tossers in that family at the moment, in a few years there is likely to be at least 6 and this problem is more than common in a lot of houses throughout the country meaning the problem is only going to get worse. Sadly I think any Government is going to sit back and watch the problem get worse.

And a bit in the middle accusing the 'nignogs' of stealing water or somesuch?

[x] Snowy and Chip need to

Hope Im not speaking out of turn but this thread is a bit shiity tbh and im sure others have been locked for less.

snowy my mother, who retired last year, was a university lecturer at durham. my brother is a ward manager in the nhs in london, his wife a clinical psychologist in the same organisation.

my eldest sister is a teacher in essex, my youngest sister a nurse in birmingham. all of them have over 20 years experience in their field.

my ex is a nurse and has been for over 20 years. both my kids are at english martyrs.

im mates with the head of a secondary school in the town.

my current partner is a secondary school teacher in york, my friend helen is a primary school teacher in brighton. my best friend jo is a nurse at the chelsea and westminser, another mate laurie is a nurse at springfield in tooting.

i have actually worked at the hospital in the town and still have friends there.

i could go on, but i think you get the gist. i know a lot of teachers and nurses and im more inclined to take their opinion on the education system and the health service, than someone who claims to have worked in the field of academia but can provide no evidence to support this.

as ive said repeatedly, ending every post with a smiley doesnt make you right.

as for "vested interests" i fail to see your point. they work for the nhs and the lea's but that doesnt mean they would automatically agree that things have got better. surely at least 50% of people think their employers are useless and working conditions have got worse rather than better in the last 10 years ?

Also Kevin has a habit of starting a thread and then stepping back whilst things kick off - so I blame him as well......

Thanks for pointing that out, though I could have sworn I was talking about PFI schools and Hospitals. Something I know quite a bit about.



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[ a university education which was once the preserve of the few is now accessible to all, which has to be a good thing..

Chip, do you really think that Nurses think things are better now?

I have to question their sanity if they do.

And I want to speak to them and ask them about what they think of Hartlepool General closing down, and this new super hospital out of town........which of course is great for everyone isnt it.

I am sure they are delighted with having their job put under threat.

And having to re-apply for their jobs with equally qualified people from North Tees and James Cook Hospital. Because I am absolutely certain that merging three into one wont mean three times the jobs.

Shall we ask them?

Mr ripper could help with the report because he does one every month. End of derwent's survey.

Its too early he doesnt have all the figures in yet

[Mr ripper could help with the report because he does one every month.

What?? A Nurse??

I thought he did prostitutes...

I only know two really well, so I've just asked them.
They said their pay was better and conditions were improving. They said they would wait and see if the new hospital facilities and it's location was an improvement on the present set up. they said that people are always cynical regarding change, but if you don't change you don't make progress. If we all interview two nurses then perhaps ADG can collate the information and give us a report. Mr ripper could help with the report because he does one every month. End of derwent's survey.

they also get hacked off when bankers who got us into this fooking mess get bailed out with taxpayers money ,and are back on big bonuses, and when mps claim taxpayers money to have moats cleaned out.

but you cant have it both ways, you cant have low taxation and first rate public services.

The education system at 6th form is getting worse. Pupils with a C or low B grade at GCSE are being discouraged from taking the subject at A level. Instead they divert them onto "easier" options to ensure the pupil get the grades to make their college look better..

FFS when did it becoming mandatory for a pupil to get a B grade to enable them to study science at A level (and they say the exams aren't getting easier if they aren't why is no longer good enough to get a pass at GCSE to enable you to progress in the subject.. )

Teachers no longer inspire pupils to aim high and work hard to achieve instead they prefer to cream off all the good pupils to ensure they hit their targets..

Give me on volunteer rather then ten pressed men comes to mind.... surely anyone wanting to achieve should be given the opportunity to do so rather than being shunted off on an imedia or ICT option...

anyway thats enough for the time being...

So much for the brave new world...

and of course tory supporters will say the hospital is being closed down, and labour supporters will say its being relocated.

if its built at wynard there are people in its current catchment area that will actually be closer to it than they are now..

in the summer got ridiculously hot as for obvious reasons the windows couldnt be fully opened.

Are you talking about the new site on the corner of Middleton Road.

Was it gas works or water works there? I can't remember.

And that argument about patients hating the hospital building doesn't ring true. Most of the poor sods didn't know where they were.

That'll be that spin eh?? Whatever the fook that was....how many Health Secretaries have we had in six years??

I'm neither. I can't vote. But I do know that the people who did use the local hospital now can't. Despite the fact that now they're paying more than they ever did before, for less.
Mind the speed cameras at Newton Bewlay.

I understand that you now live in China !!!!!! If that is so then I suggest you concentrate on the problems associated with living in that particular country, and leave the problems prevailent in Britain to us locals who are content to stay here.

Too right ... And stop being a Poolie, Kev. Hand your passport in as well ...

There's some shyte uttered on this board, mostly by me, but that takes some topping. Derwent, take your sofa back inside mate, you've been out in the sun too long.

Maybe , maybe, maybe, but sometimes you need to say it how you think it is. The majority of people who emigrate just can't be satisfied with doing so, they have to then try and justify it by criticising the country of their birth. Some of the criticism is justified because no country is perfect and it is easy. The difficult bit is appreciating what your country has done for you and to refrain from making cheap, political points that really are an insult to your former fellow citizens. It is not really too difficult to understand. I have no gripe with spender or any other emigrant, I actually admire people like him for having a go, but there is a line which has to be drawn.

As a teacher at such an institution within this area I should probably just keep my mouth shut. I can't. You're talking bollocks.

Oh dear..........oh dear, oh dear, ... if Kev says 1+1=2, does it still equal 2 if he says it from China?

I'll let Kev fight his own battles, he's a big boy ... ohh yes.

I left for job purposes, I have a better way of life, a job I've always wanted, and located in one oft he most beautiful locations in the world. And I'm not satisfied with emigrating?
Just because you live thousands of miles away doesn't exclude you from being able to comment of the state of your birth nation.

You might as well exclude from this board those who don't live in Hartlepool. If they don't live in town they're not allowed an opinion on Pools ... that's your argument.