Squad Retention

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:03 pm

who to keep, who to get rid. very simple....

21 Arran Lee-Barrett ........................Scatter
1 Jan Budtz ....................................Scatter
30 Mark Cook ..................................Scatter

5 Michael Nelson................................KEEP
6 Sam Collins ....................................Scatter
15 Antony Sweeney............................KEEP
3 Ritchie Humphreys............................Scatter
8 Ritchie Jones ..................................KEEP
11 Andy Monkhouse ............................Scatter
14 James Brown .................................KEEP
34 Kevin Kyle .....................................Scatter
10 Joel Porter ....................................KEEP KEEP KEEP
7 Gary Liddle .....................................KEEP
12 Ben Clark ......................................KEEP
2 Jamie McCunnie ...............................Scatter
19 Matty Robson ................................KEEP
4 Willie Boland ...................................Scatter
18 Michael Mackay .............................Scatter
22 Jonny Rowell ..................................KEEP
17 David Foley ...................................Scatter
16 Alan Power.....................................KEEP

this means we are seriously 6 or 7 players short of what is required. We NEED a keeper and at least one probably 2 defender(s). we need a defensive midfielder and a right winger. and we need at least one decent striker, possibly two.

We are right in the shit

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

We can only scatter if there contracts are up, and do we know whose contracts are up?

Otherwise we need to pay them off, can be expensive.

Or sell them, give them away....

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:05 pm

Yubep wrote:

We can only scatter if there contracts are up, and do we know whose contracts are up?

Otherwise we need to pay them off, can be expensive.

Or sell them, give them away....

OR give me a list and i will hire a sniper to pick them off :wink:

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

It's in the post....

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:10 pm

you should have emailed it, would have been much quicker :roll:

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

30 Mark Cook ..................................Keep - we haven't even seen the lad yet

Defence
5 Michael Nelson................................KEEP
12 Ben Clark ......................................KEEP
7 Gary Liddle .....................................KEEP

Midfield
15 Antony Sweeney............................KEEP
8 Ritchie Jones ..................................KEEP
19 Matty Robson ................................KEEP
22 Jonny Rowell ..................................KEEP

Forwards
14 James Brown .................................KEEP
10 Joel Porter ....................................KEEP

Get shot of or just shoot.
21 Arran Lee-Barrett
1 Jan Budtz
6 Sam Collins
3 Ritchie Humphreys
11 Andy Monkhouse
2 Jamie McCunnie
4 Willie Boland
18 Michael Mackay
17 David Foley
16 Alan Power

this means we are seriously 6 or 7 players short of what is required. We NEED a keeper and at least one probably 2 defender(s). we need a defensive midfielder and a right winger. and we need at least one decent striker, possibly two.

We are right in the shiit[/quote]

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

misterb2001 wrote:

you should have emailed it, would have been much quicker :roll:

I'm old skool

tonyparry · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:21 pm

If you Gents could explain something for me?
I dont get to the games these days alas but, reading the bunker and pools world etc etc, im suprised that Nelson is on your keep list, i sorta got the impression he was a liability, he (and the rest of the defence where getting a whole lotta stick not so long ago) i would appreciate your reasoning ! i sound like a wind up probably but its a genuine question !!
and an edit! it does seem that Boyd would be a welcome return and yet Miller for example not wanted because (quote) bringing back ex players doesnt work etc etc....

I do get confused ! but not seeing pools for a long time im sorta trying to get the picture............................. :uhoh:

and ive had a few :grin:

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:22 pm

i concur, those 2 signings would also get a bit of buzz going amongst the fans, if only we could get them though

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:23 pm

tonyparry wrote:

If you Gents could explain something for me?
I dont get to the games these days alas but, reading the bunker and pools world etc etc, im suprised that Nelson is on your keep list, i sorta got the impression he was a liability, he (and the rest of the defence where getting a whole lotta stick not so long ago) i would appreciate your reasoning ! i sound like a wind up probably but its a genuine question !!

I think it's simply a case of having the right partner alongside him, Nelson/Westwood or Nelson/Clark is a very good partnership and brings out the very best in him. Also having a competent keeper behind him helps

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:23 pm

chip fireball wrote:

i dont think we are " right in the shiit" but i think we definitely do need to make adjustments.

we certainly need to tighten up the defence, and this could be done on a temporary basis by bringing dimi back. he wants to play for us and pools need him.

id then go with a back 4 of liddle clark nelson and humps.

the midfield is horribly unbalanced. jones is not and never will be effective playing on the right of midfield.

personally i would go with robson sweeney jones and try monky on the right where he played in the past.

up front we need someone in to complement porter. the obvious solution would be to sign boyd from orient if he would be prepared to come back. he is still scoring goals in a bad side, and has a proven relationship with porter that wouldnt need a bedding in period.

i think that side would get us through to the end of the season and keep us out of the relegation zone. at that point we could begin the clearout.

in essence, 2 cheapish signings, which would be funded by barker and kyles departures and us being able to offload one other player..

You can't get away with posting something as sensible as that chip, I think we should release everyone like Mister B says, we'll stay up with ten players in our squad no problem!

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:25 pm

PJ_Poolie wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

i dont think we are " right in the shiit" but i think we definitely do need to make adjustments.

we certainly need to tighten up the defence, and this could be done on a temporary basis by bringing dimi back. he wants to play for us and pools need him.

id then go with a back 4 of liddle clark nelson and humps.

the midfield is horribly unbalanced. jones is not and never will be effective playing on the right of midfield.

personally i would go with robson sweeney jones and try monky on the right where he played in the past.

up front we need someone in to complement porter. the obvious solution would be to sign boyd from orient if he would be prepared to come back. he is still scoring goals in a bad side, and has a proven relationship with porter that wouldnt need a bedding in period.

i think that side would get us through to the end of the season and keep us out of the relegation zone. at that point we could begin the clearout.

in essence, 2 cheapish signings, which would be funded by barker and kyles departures and us being able to offload one other player..

You can't get away with posting something as sensible as that chip, I think we should release everyone like Mister B says, we'll stay up with ten players in our squad no problem!

i didn't mean get rid of them now :roll:

at the end of the season, obviously :roll:

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:28 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

i dont think we are " right in the shiit" but i think we definitely do need to make adjustments.

we certainly need to tighten up the defence, and this could be done on a temporary basis by bringing dimi back. he wants to play for us and pools need him.

id then go with a back 4 of liddle clark nelson and humps.

the midfield is horribly unbalanced. jones is not and never will be effective playing on the right of midfield.

personally i would go with robson sweeney jones and try monky on the right where he played in the past.

up front we need someone in to complement porter. the obvious solution would be to sign boyd from orient if he would be prepared to come back. he is still scoring goals in a bad side, and has a proven relationship with porter that wouldnt need a bedding in period.

i think that side would get us through to the end of the season and keep us out of the relegation zone. at that point we could begin the clearout.

in essence, 2 cheapish signings, which would be funded by barker and kyles departures and us being able to offload one other player..

You can't get away with posting something as sensible as that chip, I think we should release everyone like Mister B says, we'll stay up with ten players in our squad no problem!

i didn't mean get rid of them now :roll:

at the end of the season, obviously :roll:

A club of our size cannot get rid of that many players, we are half way up League One not bottom of the fourth division. We just need the right manager a few quality additions and the correct balance.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:30 pm

so a complete overhaul then? :laugh:

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:32 pm

Reckon Wilson will sign Foley?

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:39 pm

Reckon Richie Barker's on his way back?

tonyparry · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:50 pm

chip fireball wrote:

i know yesterdays defeat was depressing, and believe me those who didnt go, so was the defeat at scunny, but we are really not that bad.

the problem at the moment is that there is very little balance in the squad. we have 10 players that can play centre midfield ( and that mr parry is the sole objection people have with signing tommy miller, he plays in a position we have too many options at already, and not in one where we are in crisis ) and very few that can play full back or centre forward to anything like a reasonable level.

the problem, as i see it, is that we have good players who are playing below their best e.g. monkhouse, collins, liddle, and too many players playing out of position.

we need to get players playing in roles where they feel comfortable e.g clark at centre half, jones in centre mid, and we need a manager that can restore confidence to those whose form has dipped.

we need to get some balance in the side with players partnering others who complement them.

we dont need a huge target man when we have no wingers, we need a mobile forward in the mould of boyd to complement porter, and we need to pass the ball on the floor as we tried to do in the first half yesterday.

Thanks chip, i take your point about miller, but i would love to see him back, anyway ill get to see one game in january, ALB will save a penalty, foley will get a hat trick and ill wonder what the fook your all on about :wink:

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:31 pm

chip fireball wrote:

well his loan period is up, so i guess so.

And he isn't even getting in to Rotherham's starting eleven.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:41 pm

do you seriously think it will happen though

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

It would be enough to get me to attend.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:55 pm

the question i asked was about Dimi coming back, do you think we could pull it off

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:58 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

the question i asked was about Dimi coming back, do you think we could pull it off

I'd pull it off if we did!

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:02 pm

i would join you :uhoh:

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:08 pm

Well if Mr Hodcroft is a good listener he better get some Otex, clear his lugs and listen VERY carefully....

To have ANY sort of success in Football, you need a solid defence.

Dimitrious Konstantopolous would be the PERFECT signing to start the rebuilding process. If you signed him, the fans would start believing again and would start coming back through the gates aka MORE MONEY

Come on Uncle Ken, you KNOW it makes sense clappp

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:12 pm

true, only 3 days to go though!

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Just seen hodcroft walking out of pools, muttering summit about mister b and how he's a twat

Dunno what all thats about like

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:17 pm

he only just realised that now

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

It takes him a bit of time for the penny to drop...

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:20 pm

better late than never :grin:

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I got a text off him too.

He's after you for centre mid chip i've heard.

He's in a meeting with chey now to try and prise you away.

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