Train Suicides

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:03 pm

Spender wrote:

There was one here, recently, a British bloke, well into his sixties, had sunk all his cash into property.

He hadn't read the small print, you have to buy in conjunction with your wife and can't sell without her agreement. Wife chuffs off with bloke more of her own age, bloke takes a long step off his 18th floor balcony.

Kind of tidy and messy both at the same time........it does mean she can't sell owt and pocket the cash like. :wink:

Where is your lass, Kev, down the bingo??? :laugh:

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:08 pm

gravedisorder wrote:

Snowy wrote:

My gripe with this post was and remains the idea that the loss of a human life in any circumstances cannot be weighed against a 'bit of inconveience' WHAT NEXT...'Oh I was kept waiting at the traffic lights for 5 minutes just because five fooking fire engines wanted to be through to put the fire out at the orphanage ..... missed my appointment at Fine Time Fontaines Moisturising Parlour and my skin will be a bitch all week, fookin orphans!!"...it's the world we live in and if anyone can't see the point I pity them.

There is a huge difference between a fire in an orphanage and a suicide. The suicide is an option whereas the kids in the orphanage wont want to die. The fact is that the suicide could be committed in a way that doesnt impact upon others. Jumping on a train line is just selfish, it could/would haunt the train driver for years and passengers could fail to get for interviews on time, the train could derail ffs.
If you cant see that then I pity you :laugh:

I concur.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:12 pm

I tell you what I'm glad I wasn't stuck in this yesterday.

I wouldn't have wanted to work for Southeastern, based on what's happened at Rochester and this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7672721.stm

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:23 pm

chip fireball wrote:

if you reach the stage where life becomes so insufferable you feel there is no alternative but to kill yourself then you are hardly in a position to make a rational decision on how carrying that out might have a bearing on other people.

if a bloke like carter couldnt see how much pain, guilt, and suffering he was going to put his own wife and kids through by killing himself, then he is hardly likely to be in a position to think about train passengers, dog walkers etc.

the initial post on this thread was crass and insensitive, and it deserved the vitriol it got.

Carter's reason for killing himself is at the moment more tragic than the Rochester Woman but I believe that there is no problem too severe that can be saled through the support of a loving family, friends etc and should not EVER result in killing oneself.

As for Carter, at least Carter was not cowardly like the Rochester Woman and committed suicide through a method that didn't incopnvenience other people because that I belive is plain ol' discourteous.

Having said that, Carter's death is extremely tragic, but his restrained method of death, meant he could die in dignity and not hinder other people. The only people that Tim Carter's death has hurt are his family, friends and of course us Poolies are all the more poorer for having lost him.

R.I.P. Tim Carter - Poolie 4 Ever !

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:29 pm

Poolie of Kent wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

if you reach the stage where life becomes so insufferable you feel there is no alternative but to kill yourself then you are hardly in a position to make a rational decision on how carrying that out might have a bearing on other people.

if a bloke like carter couldnt see how much pain, guilt, and suffering he was going to put his own wife and kids through by killing himself, then he is hardly likely to be in a position to think about train passengers, dog walkers etc.

the initial post on this thread was crass and insensitive, and it deserved the vitriol it got.

Carter's reason for killing himself is at the moment more tragic than the Rochester Woman but I believe that there is no problem too severe that can be saled through the support of a loving family, friends etc and should not EVER result in killing oneself.

As for Carter, at least Carter was not cowardly like the Rochester Woman and committed suicide through a method that didn't incopnvenience other people because that I belive is plain ol' discourteous.

Having said that, Carter's death is extremely tragic, but his restrained method of death, meant he could die in dignity and not hinder other people. The only people that Tim Carter's death has hurt are his family, friends and of course us Poolies are all the more poorer for having lost him.

R.I.P. Tim Carter - Poolie 4 Ever !

We haven't 'lost' him, we didn't know him, this isn't a public matter as far as I'm concerned and the need for public intrusion on private grief really does boil my piss

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37347

Poolie of Kent wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

if you reach the stage where life becomes so insufferable you feel there is no alternative but to kill yourself then you are hardly in a position to make a rational decision on how carrying that out might have a bearing on other people.

if a bloke like carter couldnt see how much pain, guilt, and suffering he was going to put his own wife and kids through by killing himself, then he is hardly likely to be in a position to think about train passengers, dog walkers etc.

the initial post on this thread was crass and insensitive, and it deserved the vitriol it got.

Carter's reason for killing himself is at the moment more tragic than the Rochester Woman but I believe that there is no problem too severe that can be saled through the support of a loving family, friends etc and should not EVER result in killing oneself.

As for Carter, at least Carter was not cowardly like the Rochester Woman and committed suicide through a method that didn't incopnvenience other people because that I belive is plain ol' discourteous.

Having said that, Carter's death is extremely tragic, but his restrained method of death, meant he could die in dignity and not hinder other people. The only people that Tim Carter's death has hurt are his family, friends and of course us Poolies are all the more poorer for having lost him.

R.I.P. Tim Carter - Poolie 4 Ever !

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:38 pm

Of course we knew Carter, he was our goalie !

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:41 pm

Poolie of Kent wrote:

Of course we knew Carter, he was our goalie !

Oh do fcuk off!

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:49 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Poolie of Kent wrote:

Of course we knew Carter, he was our goalie !

Oh do fcuk off!

What ?

Do you mean to say that the death of a Hartlepool United footballer can't touch people emotionally ?

May I refer the honourable gentleman to the most tragic scenes probably in the club's history, one year ago next week when we were mourning the death of young Michael Maidens.

I saw all the photos on here of the flowers, scarves, shirts etc and how badly it affected the town as a community with the club.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:51 pm

chip fireball wrote:

and the rochester woman was someones daughter/sister/partner/mother ?

you just dont get it do you poolie of kent? depression is a fookin illness. it isnt cowardly or selfish.

some people are mentally ill. they dont think straight, otherwise they wouldnt throw themselves into the path of a speeding fooking train.

Yeah, by all means if she had depression, but at the moment there is no evidence to suggest this girl was depressed.

We may never ever know...

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37347

chip fireball wrote:

and the rochester woman was someones daughter/sister/partner/mother ?

you just dont get it do you poolie of kent? depression is a fookin illness. it isnt cowardly or selfish.

some people are mentally ill. they dont think straight, otherwise they wouldnt throw themselves into the path of a speeding fooking train.

...you're wasting your time Chip, he has all the compassion of a Dalek with PMT.... :roll:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:55 pm

Poolie of Kent wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Poolie of Kent wrote:

Of course we knew Carter, he was our goalie !

Oh do fcuk off!

What ?

Do you mean to say that the death of a Hartlepool United footballer can't touch people emotionally ?

May I refer the honourable gentleman to the most tragic scenes probably in the club's history, one year ago next week when we were mourning the death of young Michael Maidens.

I saw all the photos on here of the flowers, scarves, shirts etc and how badly it affected the town as a community with the club.

No I don't mean it can't touch people, read what I said....

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37347

POX has to have a future in politics.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:58 pm

Snowy wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

and the rochester woman was someones daughter/sister/partner/mother ?

you just dont get it do you poolie of kent? depression is a fookin illness. it isnt cowardly or selfish.

some people are mentally ill. they dont think straight, otherwise they wouldnt throw themselves into the path of a speeding fooking train.

...you're wasting your time Chip, he has all the compassion of a Dalek with PMT.... :roll:

Oh I'm compassionate, alright, just not for people who decide who seem to have the discourtousy and bad manners to disallow other people the right to continue living their lives by throwing themselves on to one of the busiest railway lines in the country.

People should not have to pay for the horrid actions of other people.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37347

Are you Rick off the 'Young Ones'...? you sound like him.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:03 pm

I don't even know who he is, but that's by the by.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37347

iT IS!!!!

........................ rolfl

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

Snowy wrote:

Dugoutpaddy wrote:

Snowy wrote:

My gripe with this post was and remains the idea that the loss of a human life in any circumstances cannot be weighed against a 'bit of inconveience' WHAT NEXT...'Oh I was kept waiting at the traffic lights for 5 minutes just because five fooking fire engines wanted to be through to put the fire out at the orphanage ..... missed my appointment at Fine Time Fontaines Moisturising Parlour and my skin will be a bitch all week, fookin orphans!!"...it's the world we live in and if anyone can't see the point I pity them.

I suppose its the fact that you chose the context of POKs thread above anyone elses to unleash your carefully crafted and eloquent vitriol upon from your lofty intellectual heights, which rather points out the fact that POK gets under your skin so much you feel the need smother his posts with snarling vicious and hysterical comments, no doubt intended to belittle him and of course to be used as a tool to excercise your might.
A bit like a grown up chastises and smacks a puppy to control it, but is wary of certain breeds of grown up dogs in case they bite him/her

A bit embarrasing really :laugh:

I chose to unleash it because it was crass in the extreme...as for dogs biting, I bite back, no matter what the breed ... but if you agree with his sentiments and you can't see the point of my disgust, I really am worried for you. :roll:

Very nicely dodged, but why is this one crass in the extreme and not the other

Why do you disagree with the sentiments in this post but not the other

Why do you see disgust in this post but not the other

I've got it
POK
Nearly forgot
:roll:

ps dont worry about me, Im ellish, :wink:

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

chip fireball wrote:

if you reach the stage where life becomes so insufferable you feel there is no alternative but to kill yourself then you are hardly in a position to make a rational decision on how carrying that out might have a bearing on other people.

if a bloke like carter couldnt see how much pain, guilt, and suffering he was going to put his own wife and kids through by killing himself, then he is hardly likely to be in a position to think about train passengers, dog walkers etc.

the initial post on this thread was crass and insensitive, and it deserved the vitriol it got.

Hey Chip, does this ring a bell?

it happened to me about 6 seasons back on the way to an away game at luton. nearly 2 hours sat just outside grantham. we then crawled to peterboro. by the time we got there the game had kicked off. i consoled myself that at least the bloke had died. it would have been a worse feeling if i had missed the match and he had only like lost a leg or something.

and we were 2 down within 10 minutes. and i got me train ticket money refunded.

Good job thats not crass or insensitive then, otherwise Snow White would be bullying you, and that chap firebore

Damn! nearly forgot again!!!
:roll:

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:46 pm

Dugoutpaddy wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

if you reach the stage where life becomes so insufferable you feel there is no alternative but to kill yourself then you are hardly in a position to make a rational decision on how carrying that out might have a bearing on other people.

if a bloke like carter couldnt see how much pain, guilt, and suffering he was going to put his own wife and kids through by killing himself, then he is hardly likely to be in a position to think about train passengers, dog walkers etc.

the initial post on this thread was crass and insensitive, and it deserved the vitriol it got.

Hey Chip, does this ring a bell?

it happened to me about 6 seasons back on the way to an away game at luton. nearly 2 hours sat just outside grantham.

we then crawled to peterboro. by the time we got there the game had kicked off. i consoled myself that at least the bloke had died. it would have been a worse feeling if i had missed the match and he had only like lost a leg or something.

and we were 2 down within 10 minutes. and i got me train ticket money refunded.

Yeah see there you are these people who have committed suicide have stopped your right to a life, they've stopped you from going to see Pools and it's cost you two hours of your life. That's why they are inconsiderate.

Poolsrme · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:50 pm

Never mind suicide...................remember a few years ago when a couple of people died dashing into the raging sea off Blackpool to try and rescue a........dog!! :shock:

That must be suicide by default :uhoh:

Loid Haw-Haw of Sussex · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:07 pm

POK the Samaritans counsellor .. bbolt

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

EEH chip

It took ten minutes
But if you had read the first two pages you would have seen that I posted a link which would have pointed this out to you, obviously you dont have a decent attention span so console yourself in this fact

You have just invented a gauge for acceptable suicides or
You have just made a twat of yourself :wink:

And for the record, my argument' is the fact that if POk posts he receives vitriol etc etc but when others post the same shite, its ok

Thank you for supporting my argument.

I do have a dictionary somewhere, and when I find it I will look up that word consolation, but in the context of your original post, I suggest you do. But don't worry if it doesn't fit you can always change your mind, can't you
rolfl

verbalkint · **Joined:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:08 pm **Posts:** 3135

game set and match to paddy i think

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:14 pm

Dugoutpaddy wrote:

EEH chip

It took ten minutes
But if you had read the first two pages you would have seen that I posted a link which would have pointed this out to you, obviously you dont have a decent attention span so console yourself in this fact

You have just invented a gauge for acceptable suicides or
You have just made a tw@t of yourself :wink:

And for the record, my argument' is the fact that if POk posts he receives vitriol etc etc but when others post the same shite, its ok

Thank you for supporting my argument.

I do have a dictionary somewhere, and when I find it I will look up that word consolation, but in the context of your original post, I suggest you do. But don't worry if it doesn't fit you can always change your mind, can't you
rolfl

Perhaps we should have a list of those who can post pictures of a lavvy bowl full of shite, post racist jokes and tasteless threads regarding topping oneself and have another for those who can't

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:24 pm

Can we not put a stop to this friggin thread now. Its about as tedious as a Danny Wilson interview. Same old shiit over and over again

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

But then you wouldn't post and I wouldn't see your avatar :uhoh:

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:58 pm

This is all cos Pools are not doing the biz!

Frodraff · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:38 am

Is that a song lyric Good Bye Gloomy Sunday by any chance.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:32 am

Poolie of Kent wrote:

Carter's reason for killing himself is at the moment more tragic than the Rochester Woman but I believe that there is no problem too severe that can be saled through the support of a loving family, friends etc and should not EVER result in killing oneself.

As for Carter, at least Carter was not cowardly like the Rochester Woman and committed suicide through a method that didn't incopnvenience other people because that I belive is plain ol' discourteous.

Having said that, Carter's death is extremely tragic, but his restrained method of death, meant he could die in dignity and not hinder other people. The only people that Tim Carter's death has hurt are his family, friends and of course us Poolies are all the more poorer for having lost him.

R.I.P. Tim Carter - Poolie 4 Ever !

I can't honestly believe someone has actually typed the above and believes every word they have typed!!!! confised

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:37 am

BTW....I love this song....

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37347

Dugoutpaddy wrote:

Very nicely dodged, but why is this one crass in the extreme and not the other

Why do you disagree with the sentiments in this post but not the other

Why do you see disgust in this post but not the other

I've got it
POK
Nearly forgot
:roll:

ps dont worry about me, Im ellish, :wink:

What 'extreme' am I supposed to have polarised to ... the caricture scenario I gave and which in anyones imagination was just that?.... or what?
He wrote a post thatI and any normal person would have found offensive, I reacted. I don't read every post, so I can't respond to every post, because I may not have even read or care about the subject Ok..? I'm glad to see you're so concerned about POK'S rights, it wouldn't do to discourage him from sharing his wisdom with a wider audience... :roll:

tonyparry · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:41 am

TIME Gentlemen please! have you no homes to go to.etc etc etc

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

Snowy wrote:

Dugoutpaddy wrote:

Very nicely dodged, but why is this one crass in the extreme and not the other

Why do you disagree with the sentiments in this post but not the other

Why do you see disgust in this post but not the other

I've got it
POK
Nearly forgot
:roll:

ps dont worry about me, Im ellish, :wink:

What 'extreme' am I supposed to have polarised to ... the caricture scenario I gave and which in anyones imagination was just that?.... or what?
He wrote a post thatI and any normal person would have found offensive, I reacted. I don't read every post, so I can't respond to every post, because I may not have even read or care about the subject Ok..? I'm glad to see you're so concerned about POK'S rights, it wouldn't do to discourage him from sharing his wisdom with a wider audience... :roll:

You and that chap firebore have an obvious medical condition which does not allow you to relate to your own posts once posted :laugh:

But Mr Parry is right
In Transactional Analysis terms we are coming from different states here and probably will remain so as I carnt be arsed and neither can yooz, so
ding ding
Time Gentlemen please, it has been fun tho :wink:

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