Just so you keep immigration in perspective

parmopooly · **Posted:** Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:14 pm

WHICH ONE'S DIBBLE, THEN? CAPS AGAIN - BOLLOX!!

poolpower · **Posted:** Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:23 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Daft fooker? Hark at the Trumpton wannabe. :roll:

from left to eight
Hugh. Pugh. Barney McGrew. Cuthbert .DIBBLE. and Grubb

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36364

Mr ADG wrote:

I am dealing with a company in Yorkshire. I am in the process of agreeing a partnering framework agreement with them.

Three years ago this company had a terrible reputation for never finishing on time, and leaving jobs incomplete. The reason they alwats gave was that their labour would just bugger-de-bugger-de-do off to another job that offered a better rate.

Turnover of labour was horrendous.

And then a miracle occured. Britain started to get invaded by overseas workers. Qualified workers as well. Get that? I said qualified.

Now......the vast majority of these workers......are here for a reason......they make as much money as they can........and send most of it back home to their families.

So......the relevance?

Well...........its like this................so good are these guys.....the firm I am dealing with now employ over200 of them................full time.........on the books.

Due to this..............there are more people than jobs.............so the firm cherry pick, the best and most loyal workers.

It has resulted in a huge reduction in the turnover of staff, has increased loyalty, and best of all has made those jumping from job to job think twice.

The firm now has a top notch reputation, does a quality job, and most of its workforce dont leave early on a friday afternoon to blow most of its wages on drink.

Immigration works.

Er... what happens when the one who can do your job faster turns up to replace you because he has a superior work ehtic and is .... cheaper...? rolfl

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36364

Mr ADG wrote:

Cheaper than me??????? rolfl

I'm talking about your work ethiic...not your slutishness.... rolfl

YOUR REPLACEMENT WILL BE ALONG SOON

Fensy · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 6471

poolpower wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Daft fooker? Hark at the Trumpton wannabe. :roll:

from left to eight
Hugh. Pugh. Barney McGrew. Cuthbert .DIBBLE. and Grubb

Think you have a name wrong there PP

Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb :grin:

:sweet:

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:38 pm

My brother-in-law works for a pipelaying company working out of Burnley. Earlier this year, he asked me if I would be interested in a little sideline, looking after Polish workers they were using. For some reason, I don't know what, they couldn't employ them directly. So they were bringing them in through an agency. Nothing came off it, as his senior managers didn't back the idea. He said he would rather me be paid for providing the service, rather than give the money to the agency.

I'm still not sure if I missed out on a good thing, or am better off out of it.

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

Mr ADG wrote:

I am dealing with a company in Yorkshire. I am in the process of agreeing a partnering framework agreement with them.

Three years ago this company had a terrible reputation for never finishing on time, and leaving jobs incomplete. The reason they alwats gave was that their labour would just bugger-de-bugger-de-do off to another job that offered a better rate.

Turnover of labour was horrendous.

And then a miracle occured. Britain started to get invaded by overseas workers. Qualified workers as well. Get that? I said qualified.

Now......the vast majority of these workers......are here for a reason......they make as much money as they can........and send most of it back home to their families.

So......the relevance?

Well...........its like this................so good are these guys.....the firm I am dealing with now employ over200 of them................full time.........on the books.

Due to this..............there are more people than jobs.............so the firm cherry pick, the best and most loyal workers.

It has resulted in a huge reduction in the turnover of staff, has increased loyalty, and best of all has made those jumping from job to job think twice.

The firm now has a top notch reputation, does a quality job, and most of its workforce dont leave early on a friday afternoon to blow most of its wages on drink.

Immigration works.

I think you are getting mixed up between Immigration and Migration there like Dibbs, Polish chaps are migrant workers, much the same as we where in Germany during the 80's and the Irish where in London, when EU monies are invested in their countries they will of course return home, much like British workers during the 80's did.

Immigration is a different gravy altogether.

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

Mr ADG wrote:

I know what they are.

But I am not one of those getting all het up about migration/immigration.

And just for the record.........the guys I was talking about havent taken "Our " Jobs.

They have just helped this company hang on to its workforce, by adding competition.........in that most of their guys are now more loyal.

There is so much work there now, we couldnt construct without them.

Easy on Dibbs old chum, I didn't say you were getting 'Het Up' just suggesting you were confused about migration and immigration, and nor did I suggest they were taking 'our jobs' refyellow

And I agree about the fact that there is so much work there we couldn't construct without them, my point was/is they are here short term and will undoubtedly leave for home shores when their country is receiving it's share of ESF ie as the brits did with Germany etc
cos they have MIGRATED not IMMIGRATED, two different things...thats all youngfellermelad :wink:

Take a chill pill (pie) delete as you wish
:grin:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:14 am

Mr ADG wrote:

I am dealing with a company in Yorkshire. I am in the process of agreeing a partnering framework agreement with them.

Three years ago this company had a terrible reputation for never finishing on time, and leaving jobs incomplete. The reason they alwats gave was that their labour would just bugger-de-bugger-de-do off to another job that offered a better rate.

Turnover of labour was horrendous.

And then a miracle occured. Britain started to get invaded by overseas workers. Qualified workers as well. Get that? I said qualified.

Now......the vast majority of these workers......are here for a reason......they make as much money as they can........and send most of it back home to their families.

So......the relevance?

Well...........its like this................so good are these guys.....the firm I am dealing with now employ over200 of them................full time.........on the books.

Due to this..............there are more people than jobs.............so the firm cherry pick, the best and most loyal workers.

It has resulted in a huge reduction in the turnover of staff, has increased loyalty, and best of all has made those jumping from job to job think twice.

The firm now has a top notch reputation, does a quality job, and most of its workforce dont leave early on a friday afternoon to blow most of its wages on drink.

Immigration works.

'partnering framework agreement with them'

Is that bollox middle manager speak then dibbs?

What does it really mean?

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

chip fireball wrote:

the local hospital, and indeed every nhs hospital in the counrty, would be another good place to see the positive side of immigration. but you will never see the mail or the express banging on about us thieving third world doctors and nurses to look after us because its not what people want to read about.

theres two sides to every story. most people coming here from foreign countries do so to work, not to live on benefits. and yes a lot leave when the work dries up meaning they pay a lot more into the country by way of national insurance contributions than they take out. and some stay and make this country their home. personally id rather have grafters from abroad that want to work and contribute to society in the town than smackhead burgaling rarfs and drug dealing wannabe gangsters who contribute fook all and take all the handouts they can get.

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Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36364

I think the whole thing is a lot more complex than that and while I believe the current trend is a handy tool for maximising profits, curbing wages and trimming costs..... What a pity companies didn't invest in training instead ofquick returnss, but why train when you can ship in labour trained somewhere else and ruin their economy into the process, maybe we wouldn't have so many groups of wild teenagers and smackheads if we had an education system that trained them properly.

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

Snowy wrote:

I think the whole thing is a lot more complex than that and while I believe the current trend is a handy tool for maximising profits, curbing wages and trimming costs..... What a pity companies didn't invest in training instead ofquick returnss, but why train when you can ship in labour trained somewhere else and ruin their economy into the process, maybe we wouldn't have so many groups of wild teenagers and smackheads if we had an education system that trained them properly.

Too true it is complex Snowyand I have to agree on the education system bit, too much time money and effort into encouraging disaffected students into an industry (construction) that doesn't need or want them from an education system that doesn't understand the sector or its needs...Stop...I'm ranting

banghead

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36364

I have just read a book, comparing the British and German economies and mindset....it concluded that the German economy was based on a technology and manufacturing base and all other disciplines subservient to that. this meant that the advances in technology and financial benefits would benefit and strengthen the state. The British model was praised forIots self belief anD confidence, but was doomed to gradual decline because of the Brirish obsession with putting its best brains into profeSsions such as the law and other unproductive lines....the hidden class system encouraged people to choose those professions that had status. THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN IN 1908.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:57 am

nah, he wrote it

Just so you keep immigration in perspective

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