I must remember were not allowed to voice an opinion on a player at a football match.

sorry but if you're paying to go to pools to stand and hurl unimaginative insults at football player in a pretend cup on a miserable tuesday night, you can't tell me that there's not some sort of inadequacy related to having a small penis and undescended testes

...reading your interpretation of the night, why would anyone turn up at all...?

f***' Hell Mr b, post of the season so far.

Ok then Ripper, in my opinion people who shout abuse at our own players, whoever they are and however they are playing, are, in my eyes, wankers.

But nobody was playing bobbins

Ripper, you are well into your 30's now, tell me seriously that shouting abuse at players of the team you support is acceptable? I know of a couple of people who have moved away from certain areas of the ground because of this, rather than front-up to people.

Some daft get near us last season spent most of the first 3 months calling Andy Monkhouse "lazy", and Eifion Williams a "bottler". Fair?

slight exaggeration for emphasis of point.

For fooks sake what is it about poolies and their desperation to self destruct.

We have few enough fans as it is, without some shouting abuse at the players, and others taking the moral high ground against them.

I dont like to hear our players getting abuse. I also dont like to hear, or read our fans being called wankers.

Tell you what.....if all of the "wankers" stayed away the moral high grounders wouldnt have a club to support.

There you go.

My take on Foley is simple.

He isnt good enough. And it annoys the fook out of me why "we", thats poolies have to watch players clearly not good enough.

We have a good few promising young lads that make up the squad.....all of whom I trust are better than Foley.

So, even though I would never shout abuse at Foley, I can understand fans frustrations, if not the abuse.

He should be nowhere the first team of a league one side.

In the first half last night he was utter gash. He looked good for 25 minutes after Joel, Power and Brown had the game won.

You lot saying he is any better can delude yorselves as much as you like.

ripper/tree, that's absolute gash from you both i'm afraid.

there's a world of difference between voicing your opinion during a game and the constant battery of abuse that some of our players have, and in some cases, continue to have to put up with.

i don't rate foley at league one standard, but why the fook would i feel the need to stand and abuse him non-stop. is that going to help in ANY way shape or form ? In case you're confused, the answer is no.

Ripper, because we don't feel the need to slag players off it, it doesn't in any way make us happy clappy or social workers. you would go apeshit at a lazy generalisation like you've made if it concerned racism or disability or unemployment - i've seen you do it on here.

the "i go to a match and i'm entitled to my opinion" doesn't wash either. no-one has a problem with anyone having an opinion and voicing it fairly freely, but i too pay for my season ticket, and i'll reserve the right to tw@t anyone who is boring the arse off me and others round me by his sad inadequate posturing. i come to watch the match not listen to some cock show himself up by revealing his sexual dysfunction and inability to form relationships.

For fooks sake what is it about poolies and their desperation to self destruct.

We have few enough fans as it is, without some shouting abuse at the players, and others taking the moral high ground against them.

I dont like to hear our players getting abuse. I also dont like to hear, or read our fans being called wankers.

Tell you what.....if all of the "wankers" stayed away the moral high grounders wouldnt have a club to support.

There you go.

My take on Foley is simple.

He isnt good enough. And it annoys the fook out of me why "we", thats poolies have to watch players clearly not good enough.

We have a good few promising young lads that make up the squad.....all of whom I trust are better than Foley.

So, even though I would never shout abuse at Foley, I can understand fans frustrations, if not the abuse.

He should be nowhere the first team of a league one side.

In the first half last night he was utter gash. He looked good for 25 minutes after Joel, Power and Brown had the game won.

You lot saying he is any better can delude yorselves as much as you like.

Yes I am always right. Its about time more of you realised that.

Yes I am always right. Its about time more of you realised that.

Foley isnt good enough. He never has been.

Do you think any other league one side would take him off our hands?

I doubt it.

But thats not say I wont give him my full support when he plays. I will as always.

Would you be happy though to pay £18 every week to watch players of Foleys quality? Be honest now.

Oh, and I would love him to prove me and most of the rest of the crowd wrong.

But to do that he would have to have a run in the side.....at who's expense?

What comments about Wilson?

And dont you think my comments might have just made him sit up and think?

some sort of inadequacy related to having a small penis and undescended testes

He sure did.

But there again.....there are a good few on here, defending Foley, yet slag off Humphreys constantly.

Methinks most of the contributers on this thread are slightly hypocritical.

Randomly?

It's not random though is it.

It's in direct response to how the player is performing. How he's being paid to perform. Being paid with a little help from each paying member of the crowd.

Showing frustration and voicing it may or may not be the best response, but it is a natural one.

most of the folk who have posted on this thread are old enough to remember the days ( the 70's and 80's ) when we essentially went to pools to slag off the players. there was a perverse camaraderie to be had in joining a select band of like minded individuals paying to watch, what not to put too fine a point on it, was essentially shite masquerading as proffessional football.

the ground was crap, the attendances were crap, the players were mostly crap ( tho the odd diamond briefly dazzled, this only served to highlight just how unfailingly crap the rest of them were ) indeed the whole experience was crap.

but as i said, perversely crap in a way that made you want to keep going.

we actually revelled in a self deprecating humourous look at how bad we were.

almost everybody attending back then slagged the players off. it was what you did.

there were lads playing for the first team like paul staff, who i would spend 90 minutes on the terraces imploring, normally unsuccessfully, to score a goal, and who i would then wait for outside the ground so we could get the same bus home and go over his abject performance kick by kick .

there were players like full back harry wilson who were actually worse footballers than many of the lads on the terraces. i used to watch wilson and think " jesus christ, if he can get a game for pools then so can i. "

for 20 years we seemed caught in this never-ending orwellian cycle of doom and gloom. we were shiit, we would always be shiit, we expected it to be shiit, and therefore it was shiit. players with any ability that somehow stumbled across the hartlepool united first team were very quick to get on the first bus out of the town to another football club.

any other football club.

and then came a half decent team. god knows where it came from. it started with blokes like robbie mac. even the most unfailingly pessimistic millhouse diehards knew that robbie mac was a footballer. i mean a real footballer. an international class footballer. and then came jackie honour. and paul baker and joe allon etc.

and suddenly we actually had a proper team with a chance of winning something.

but to this day i think there still exists, lurking on those millhouse seats and terraces, some of those spectating ghosts from the dark days. folk who STILL go to games in the hope that we will be shiit, and still feel the need to slag off pools players.

curiously it always seems to be the younger players they single out. i remember maidens and brackstone getting it in the neck in an ldv vans game a couple of years ago.

and it always seems to be at poorly attended midweek cup games that these throwbacks make their presence felt, possibly because on a sparsely populated terrace on a cold tuesday night they feel almost as if they are back in the 70's watching a shiit team propping up the 4th division.

im with aido on this one. it serves no purpose. it baffles me. its like something from a charles dickens novel and i dont understand it.

This lad i would say was no older than mid 20's, and he always made sure he shouted something when Foley was anywhere near him, in a crowd of a few hundred on the terrace he must have heard what he was saying.

Of course this lad was in a group and just wanted to make himself look big and clever but just looked and sounded like a knob.

This lad i would say was no older than mid 20's, and he always made sure he shouted something when Foley was anywhere near him, in a crowd of a few hundred on the terrace he must have heard what he was saying.

Of course this lad was in a group and just wanted to make himself look big and clever but just looked and sounded like a knob.

Least he sounded like he knew what he was on about.

When you talk tree, do you hear the sound of your own voice, or just a noise like the sea?

Verbalkint:

Bit of a hypocrite aren't you, yeah i might have gone over the top with a couple of the comments towards foley. maybe not his fault wilson keeps pickin him, but he has never and will never ba a footballer as long as he has a hole in his arse.

If foley had turned round he could have seen who was barracking him, not like you on here doing it behind a username, how does you abusing anyone on here whether its me or not make you any better.

I and probably many others spend in excess of a months wage at pools over the course of a season (season ticket, cup tickets, beer, shirts and other clothing), that gives me the right to an opinion, like i said some of it might have been over the top, but idont want to spend that kind of money in the current financial climate and be treated to the likes of foley in the first team when he should have been released at the end of last season.

Not wishing to be misunderstood, i do not hate the lad, in fact he is probably a canny lad, but a league 1 footballer he isn't.

I am not going to get into an argument either, i've said my bit and after reading some of the dross on this thread i had to wait an hour or so before i replied, ripper and adg's posts being the only sensible posts on this thread.

Introduce yourself at the next match and i'm sure we can swap opinions and agree to disagree in a sensible non thuggish manner, if you catch me on a good day i might even get you a pint, its only football for fooks sake.

stupid fookin post. give me £15 every other week and you can shout at me in a darkened room for an hour. that way nobody sees you looking like a tit on the terraces. worth £15 of your money i would have thought.

nobody is trying to deprive you of the right to have an opinion, but you don't have the right to enforce your opinion on everyone around you by shouting the loudest.

give your head a shake.