Global Warming

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Now I'm not one of the dut wearing, soap avoiding tree huggers but I'll tell you what: It's almost November and there are far too many trees with full foliage around. Summats up.

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:45 am

Mr I wrote:

Now I'm not one of the dut wearing, soap avoiding tree huggers but I'll tell you what: It's almost November and there are far too many trees with full foliage around. Summats up.

They're called evergreens :laugh:

But yeah, just looked out of the window and some trees are still green! Hadn't really picked up on it

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:51 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Global warming is just an excuse to tax the average man to the hilt.

Did you manage to keep a straight face when you were typing that?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Mr ADG wrote:

There are far greater problems in the world.

No there are not. This is serious shit.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Hmmm... now let me figure out whose opinion I should listen to on climate change: the consensus of all of the eminent scientists around the globe or a part time Estimator at a hole digging company in Darlington.

Tell you what, I'll get back to you once I've considered the options.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:52 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

And just who are these so-called "eminent" scientists?

Magnus Pyke?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:06 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

And just who are these so-called "eminent" scientists?

Magnus Pyke?

Precisely, any scientist who supports the greenhouse theory is all of a sudden, eminent.

:roll:

Magnus Pyke is dead now, which is a shame, especially for him

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Magnus Pyke is dead now, which is a shame, especially for him[/quote]

:grin:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:21 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Mr I wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Magnus Pyke is dead now, which is a shame, especially for him

A sort of eminent scientist from the grave, if you will.[/quote]

The Viz, which isnt as funny as it used to be, do a column featuring the great Mr Pyke, which is called 'Don't ask me, I'm dead'

Can anyone else remember the show he used to be on in the mid/late 70's?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:24 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

There are far greater problems in the world.

No there are not. This is serious shiit.

Calm down, you drama queen. :roll:

A new report comes out and suddenly we are all going to hell in a hand cart.

Instead of listening to scaremongering news reports, try studying weather patterns over the last X number of years.

The end of the world is not nigh.

Yes we should all do our bit, but this latest report implies that we all need to pay thousands of pound each in extra taxes.

Its bollox.

Its time for some sensible thinking, and sensible policies.

Take for example..............friends of the earth and our much revered ghost ships.

They dont want us to dismantle them here.

A classic case of not in our back yard?

You decide.

They want them sent back to america I believe. Were they would be dumped badly. At least we would do it properly.

But what gets dumped in america or india doesnt affect us does it?

Its bollox I tell yer................all of it.

I agree with fatty on the Ghost Ships, why the fook cant we do it here?
Because if we dont, it will be somewhere on a beach in India, and all the sh1te will go into the ocean, then into the food chain etc etc,

It's the same with GM foods, half of these tosspieces against it have never gone for longer then a day without food and they have the nerve to tell a starving nation what is right and wrong

bounders

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

It was called 'Dont ask me' hence the Viz usage. David Bellamy was also on there as was Miriam Stoppard.

norgepoolie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:25 pm

Quote:

Magnus Pyke is dead now, which is a shame, especially for him

clap clap clap

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:28 pm

Mr I wrote:

It was called 'Dont ask me' hence the Viz usage. David Bellamy was also on there as was Miriam Stoppard.

I get it now :grin:

So Yorkshire TV made two good programs then, the other being Rising Damp

Mr Poolz · **Joined:** Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:34 pm **Posts:** 484

Mr I wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

There are far greater problems in the world.

No there are not. This is serious shiit.

No it isn't. We have had a very hot and long summer apart from August and a warm autumn. I didn't see any fooker moaning about global warming in 1976 after that summer.

We also had a colder than average January, February, March and August this year. Global warming my arse. And those fookers at the Met Office are the worst for spinning it, I wonder what their agenda is?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:35 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

But I am not fat. banghead

I know, you're just big boned

norgepoolie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:37 pm

Quote:

I know, you're just being boned

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:47 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

I agree with fatty on the Ghost Ships, why the fook cant we do it here?
Because if we dont, it will be somewhere on a beach in India, and all the sh1te will go into the ocean, then into the food chain etc etc,

It's the same with GM foods, half of these tosspieces against it have never gone for longer then a day without food and they have the nerve to tell a starving nation what is right and wrong

There's soooooo many reasons why people forcing a debate on GM crops are not tosspieces.
As for the ghost ships, well, you it's you who lives next to them so I guess it's a load off the shoulders of those who don't.

Trimdon, sort these buggers out will you.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:52 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

The green welly brigade pick on car drivers instead of the real polluters of this world ... China, India, Africa.

The biggest polluter by far is the USA, and yet they're contributing less and less to world output.
China is making all the physical goods now so I guess we can expect their pollution to rise a bit; but in compensation, those countries who have stopped manufacturing should lower theirs.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:03 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

richard head wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

The green welly brigade pick on car drivers instead of the real polluters of this world ... China, India, Africa.

The biggest polluter by far is the USA, and yet they're contributing less and less to world output.
China is making all the physical goods now so I guess we can expect their pollution to rise a bit; but in compensation, those countries who have stopped manufacturing should lower theirs.

Oh yes, it's so easy to pick on the US, isn't it?

It certainly is when they're the biggest polluters. Should I have picked on St Kitt's and Nevis?

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:04 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Not wanting to appear selfish here but I AM NOT TO BLAME.

Are you a hermit like?

Karl Marx · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:18 pm

Fook me, I can see a whole line of arses with heads burried in sand. Or should that be, I can see a whole line of arseholes. Period?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:22 pm

richard head wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

I agree with fatty on the Ghost Ships, why the fook cant we do it here?
Because if we dont, it will be somewhere on a beach in India, and all the sh1te will go into the ocean, then into the food chain etc etc,

It's the same with GM foods, half of these tosspieces against it have never gone for longer then a day without food and they have the nerve to tell a starving nation what is right and wrong

There's soooooo many reasons why people forcing a debate on GM crops are not tosspieces.
As for the ghost ships, well, you it's you who lives next to them so I guess it's a load off the shoulders of those who don't.

Trimdon, sort these buggers out will you.

Why shoudl 'Trimdon' sort it out?

The ghost ships will be removed, once again, and then dismantled in a unsafe way if it isnt done in the UK, thats a fact, have we become a country of NIMBYS now?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:25 pm

Karl Marx wrote:

Fook me, I can see a whole line of arses with heads burried in sand. Or should that be, I can see a whole line of arseholes. Period?

Now now Karl....

So where should these ships be taken apart, if the US wont do it and we wont do it, its nailed on a 'third world' economy will do it, on a beach in India, or shall we just sink them offshore?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:29 pm

richard head wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

The green welly brigade pick on car drivers instead of the real polluters of this world ... China, India, Africa.

The biggest polluter by far is the USA, and yet they're contributing less and less to world output.
China is making all the physical goods now so I guess we can expect their pollution to rise a bit; but in compensation, those countries who have stopped manufacturing should lower theirs.

Which countries are stopping there manafacturing output, well apart from the UK, who no longer have a manafacturing base to speak off, there arent many

China & India's CO2 output isnt going to rise 'a bit' its going to knock America of the top before long

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Jesus, you lot amaze me. Never mind scientists and politicians, look outside your own front door: It's late autumn and the leaves are not on the pavement they are still on the trees. The sun is shining brightly and its warm. There are loads of insects around that should have died out over a month ago. 9 of the hotest years in history have happened in the last 10 years (1976 being the exception).

Icecaps have reduced by over 300 miles. We see sharks in UK waters. This year daffodills appeared in January FFS! The summers are getting tropical and the winters warmer. Yet still you lot tell me that there's nothing wrong.

banghead

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:42 pm

Karl Marx wrote:

Fook me, I can see a whole line of arses with heads burried in sand. Or should that be, I can see a whole line of arseholes. Period?

Do you say the same thing to any of your stoodents who dont agree with EVERYTHING you say

In the bigger picture, Europe contributes very little to the CO2 footprint, its the USA, followed by the emerging industrial countries such as India and China, who now have 'middle class' money to spend, all of them buying TV's, Fridges, cars etc etc, but I have yet to see them make any attempts to reduce CO2 output

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:47 pm

Mr I wrote:

Jesus, you lot amaze me. Never mind scientists and politicians, look outside your own front door: It's late autumn and the leaves are not on the pavement they are still on the trees. The sun is shining brightly and its warm. There are loads of insects around that should have died out over a month ago. 9 of the hotest years in history have happened in the last 10 years (1976 being the exception).

Icecaps have reduced by over 300 miles. We see sharks in UK waters. This year daffodills appeared in January FFS! The summers are getting tropical and the winters warmer. Yet still you lot tell me that there's nothing wrong.

banghead

But tomorrow it will be bollox freezing, I think there is a change in climate, however twenty years ago it was CFCs that were causing havoc, now its CO2 and lucky for the government its taxable

How about giving money to car makers who make eco friendly cars cheap and viable, how about making sure every new house has solar panels, turbines and water recycling facilities, its not rocket science is it?

norgepoolie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:53 pm

It's bloody freezing here.

Can you send some Global Warming over?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

No, you are one stupid bastid if you believe that shite.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

norgepoolie wrote:

It's bloody freezing here.

Can you send some Global Warming over?

Give it time mate, its on the way.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:57 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Which countries are stopping there manafacturing output, well apart from the UK, who no longer have a manafacturing base to speak off, there arent many.

There weren't many to start with!

China is now the world's 3rd biggest industrial producer and rising.
30 years ago it wasn't even in the frame.
If China stopped manufacturing tomorrow the USA (especially) and all the other countries who these days sell nothing but business models would be in big shit.

Fensy · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 6471

Mr I wrote:

J There are loads of insects around that should have died out over a month ago.

Exactly, I was out working in the back garden for an hour or so yesterday and now I have 2 big blister type spots on my back that the mrs reckons are bites. Little bastads. :evil:

Fensy · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 6471

I thought that once a month was more than acceptable though :uhoh:

Mister Ed · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:26 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Fensy wrote:

I thought that once a month was more than acceptable though :uhoh:

I think you smell lovely, Fens. :wink:

No he doesnt he smells of elderberries.

is his mother a hamster?

Fensy · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 6471

No a gerbil :roll:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36355

We use 2% of the worlds resources.....they have us recycling plastic ehich is shipped to China and sorted, the remainder is burnt in the open air ....seems pointless or even worse. Recycled glass uses more energy than new glass to produce..Energy saving or window dressing...?

the antitheist · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:58 am **Posts:** 243

The natural ebb and flow in long term climate can not be fully measured until we have satisfactory data from a satisfactory timescale. I'm afraid 250 years of reasonably accurate data is not conclusive. The planet is warming at this time and has been for 150 years barring the odd flip to cooler conditions. If in another 500 years time we are still warming, something I seriously doubt then I will agree with all those who think we are doomed. The question should not be is GW real, but whether it is natural or AGW, something which is far from being proved in my view. :-o

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:29 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Karl Marx wrote:

Fook me, I can see a whole line of arses with heads burried in sand. Or should that be, I can see a whole line of arseholes. Period?

Now now Karl....

So where should these ships be taken apart, if the US wont do it and we wont do it, its nailed on a 'third world' economy will do it, on a beach in India, or shall we just sink them, offshore?

I would like to infom the bunker that I think we shouldn't sink them. I think we should employ people to dismantle them safely without any risk tothemselves or the enviroment and then dispose or recycle the contents in an envirometally sound way. I don't suppose they would have the facility to do this on a beach in the third world ( PC ALERT!!!...Am I allowed to use this term still?)... What about you Talbot?

Like i've already said, it SHOULD be carried out in the UK, where it will be done correctly, but Friends of the earth would rather it be done out of sight

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36355

If rigs can be dismantled at the yard what's the difference, this was hailed as brilliant at the time by all the environmental groups as the rigs were cut down at sea. Also what's the difference between a ship and a rig, it's a bit like having a car breakers where you can scrap saloons and not estates...ridiculous. THE PROBLEM WAS HAVING THE LANDFILL SITE IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT NOW IT EXISTS IT CAN'T BE UNINVENTED. No matter if the ships are scrapped or not, the landfill will still be filled, but it'll be from somewhere else but still the same old rubbish.
One things for certain, when it does get the go ahead and it will, it'll be soooooo well regulated in view of what's gone on.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:30 pm

Even Mars has Global Warming!!!! :shock:

It must be them Aliens with their tins of Lynx!!!! :grin:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_snow_011206-2.html

Cowboy · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:38 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Karl Marx wrote:

Fook me, I can see a whole line of arses with heads burried in sand. Or should that be, I can see a whole line of arseholes. Period?

Now now Karl....

So where should these ships be taken apart, if the US wont do it and we wont do it, its nailed on a 'third world' economy will do it, on a beach in India, or shall we just sink them, offshore?

I would like to infom the bunker that I think we shouldn't sink them. I think we should employ people to dismantle them safely without any risk to themselves or the enviroment and then dispose or recycle the contents in an envirometally sound way. I don't suppose they would have the facility to do this on a beach in the third world ( PC ALERT!!!...Am I allowed to use this term still?)... What about you Talbot?

Agree totally OSP, let's get the things taken apart & the next batch over, bring some money to the town (bit of a shame it will be going into Peter Stephensons pocket though)

Cowboy · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:46 pm

Reading through this thread everyone is taking the view it's one thing or another - global warming OR Government spin, more likely to be both, yes there is global warming, yes it is a problem that needs to be addressed (although I do take the antitheists point that nobody actually knows if this is a natural occurance or not, there have been two ice ages if I remember my history from school right) But I also agree with Dibble that the politicians would quite happily spin this to either increase taxes or release a sensational report (like todays) at a time carefully chosen to conceal something else

So (in my view) you are all right clap

katcha · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:57 pm

we're fooked - as ali campbell sang when i was a slip of a lad 'the earth dies screaming'

it may the big industries worldwide that are unchecked - but we are to blame here in the west as poor little johnny foreigner wants what we want and we want him to make what we want really fookin cheaply - hence the pollution -

it may not yet be the fuel or the products that we use in everyday life that cause the problem, but it is the way that the products and fuel are made that will become the major problem.

we're dooomed, we're doomed

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