Just about sums it up.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37207

Season The
On May 3rd, peacefully at the Vic,
after a long season patiently borne (by the fans)
The Season slipped quietly away.
No season tickets by request.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:36 pm

Got to be the most frustrating season in the history of Hartlepool United.

Too many games we should have won and lost.

Too many injuries.

Too many poor refereeing decisions.

And to top it all off, one of our players dies in a car crash. Pitiful.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:39 pm

kentishpoolie wrote:

Got to be the most frustrating season in the history of Hartlepool United.

You obviously didn't support Pools pre-IOR then?

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:42 pm

I can't remember any seasons pre-IOR - I was only five, six years old at the time.

Why do you think there have been much more frustrating seasons than this one ?

Cos on the basis of the first 45 games, it's pretty tragic for any football club.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:46 pm

Err yeah. From about 1975 to 1997, barring our promotion in 1991 and the year after, every season has been frustrating and poor. We used to cheer when the opposition banged in their sixth, seventh, eighth etc. We've never had it so good but unfortunately there are people who have been Pools fans pre-IOR and should know better, but don't.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:20 pm

Since you have to go back to 1997-1998 for the last time we weren't involved in a battle of any kind at the end of the season, good or bad, I guess it must seem frustrating.
Flat is prolly the word I'd use. The season fizzled out at Tranmere, which paradoxically was a decent display, leaving a seven game run-in in which we've just been going through the actions.

Look, every team in the land has seasons like that unless you're Arsenal, Manchester, or Chelsea. As long as it doesn't become a habit I can stand it. I'd still rather have a flat ending than be worrying about safety.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37207

Obafemi Obsession wrote:

Err yeah. From about 1975 to 1997, barring our promotion in 1991 and the year after, every season has been frustrating and poor. We used to cheer when the opposition banged in their sixth, seventh, eighth etc. We've never had it so good but unfortunately there are people who have been Pools fans pre-IOR and should know better, but don't.

Er, two points...
Do you actually go to Pools? ...I think you'll find it's been around long before 1975, or did you assume it only counted from the time you entered the world and attended your first match as a knowledgable foetus....?

Point two...
.....Spare us the 'We've never had it so good' crap, does all criticism cease just because a bit more money is being pumped into the club, ......I go to be entertained, I want to look forward to Saturdays, something to be anticipated, it aint there.
Are you here to express a fans opinion or put a jounalistic spin on the party line.....?

grabec · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:31 am

Richard M. Head wrote:

As long as it doesn't become a habit I can stand it.

Yes, but you haven't been paying to watch the matches all season.
Anyone could stand it if they hadn't been attending :roll:

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:55 am

Point one - Yes. And I am aware Pools existed prior to 1975 but I've been going since 1975 hence my comment about it being frustrating watching Pools from 1975 onwards.

Point two - It's my opinion as a fan. But just cos it differs from YOUR party line along with Dibble and the others, you don't like it.

Yes this season has been disapppointing in some aspects, particularly with some bizarre decision/selections but I say give Wilson another season.

PS. I'm not a journalist.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:12 pm

chip fireball wrote:

pre ior there was never really any money put into the club ( other than iffy money under gibson ) so expectation levels were always low.

it was hard to knock the players or the manager given the financial situation. they were usually as badly paid as the rest of us and were making the best of a bad job.

going to pools was a cheap day out, and bit of a laugh.

i think what has been frustrating for many this season has been the sight and sound of a very well paid manager making no progress, and a bunch of very well paid players driving flash cars and generally playing like a pack of jellyfish.

hardly any of them seem interested. its no wonder theres no atmosphere any more. or why folk have stop bothering to go.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:27 pm

grabec wrote:

Yes, but you haven't been paying to watch the matches all season.
Anyone could stand it if they hadn't been attending :roll:

You'll have to explain the relevance of that to me one day, assuming you're not being facetious (eye-rolls and winks make strange bedfellows).
I'm a Pools supporter. I rejoice when we win and sulk when we lose.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37207

Obafemi Obsession wrote:

Point two - It's my opinion as a fan. But just cos it differs from YOUR party line along with Dibble and the others, you don't like it.

PS. I'm not a journalist.

Of course it 'differs' or we wouldn't be here arguing the point would we..? As for being a 'journalist', where did I say that?...I said you put a 'jounalistic spin' on it, not the same.

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

He's a wind up merchant, Snowy, and from some of his previous posts
he's associated with the club in some way (or Danny's love child)

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:49 pm

You could argue for England Snowy. :roll:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37207

Oh no I couldn't... :laugh:

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:16 pm

Richard M. Head wrote:

grabec wrote:

Yes, but you haven't been paying to watch the matches all season.
Anyone could stand it if they hadn't been attending :roll:

You'll have to explain the relevance of that to me one day, assuming you're not being facetious (eye-rolls and winks make strange bedfellows).
I'm a Pools supporter. I rejoice when we win and sulk when we lose.

Not enough. :wink:

Either go, or shut up. :evil:

That's what they tell me anyway..... :grin:

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:34 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Not enough. :wink:

Either go, or shut up. :evil:

That's what they tell me anyway..... :grin:

Yeah but to be fair kev you do talk shite. :wink:

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:39 pm

Yeah I know, but does it validate your shite better if you pay 20 quid, moan about it and THEN talk shite?? :roll:

grabec · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:50 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Yeah I know, but does it validate your shite better if you pay 20 quid, moan about it and THEN talk shite?? :roll:

We would certainly have a lot of money if we charged you every time you wanted us to listen to one of your old chestnuts.
And, of course, that wasn't even what was being said, but don't let that deter you from popping the record on again!!

Naturally, Richard, (I think) you would be more peeved with poor performances if you'd spent time and money watching them, than if you hadn't

grabec · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:36 pm

MadJohn wrote:

OK, I've been paying my money to go to the home games, and a good chunk of the away games. And yes it's been expensive. Yet I can also live with one season of relative disappointment, especially when it's been nowhere near as disappointing as our last season in this division just two years ago.

Next season is an important one, as is the close season. We must improve on what we have done this year. If we don't then maybe some of the amateur dramatics that seem ingrained on here these days will be justified. But until that happens, I am patient.

I agree it's not a life and death matter and that some of us have sometimes got carried away a bit with criticisms. But this season, unlike the Scotty one, there's been the impression that all the ingredients have been there for success, and that the things that have gone wrong could very easily have been rectified. That's why I think there's quite a lot of anger as well as 'relative disappointment'.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:17 pm

But weren't we all convinced at the start of the Scotty season that all the ingredients were there for success? I don't think we've ever been so confident, cocky even, about a forthcoming season as that one.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:48 pm

If we sign new players every close season because we want to (e.g., Moore, McCunnie), not because we have to (e.g., to replace Westwood and Dimi), shouldn't we keep on getting better and better?

How come then that the season we signed the fewest players than ever -- one at the start (who did a runner), a couple in the middle, and no loanees that I can remember -- we did better than we've ever done before?

(This is of course a rhetorical question)

grabec · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:53 pm

Richard M. Head wrote:

But weren't we all convinced at the start of the Scotty season that all the ingredients were there for success? I don't think we've ever been so confident, cocky even, about a forthcoming season as that one.

Yes, we were convinced at the start of the Scotty season because then we were young and naive and thought that the bus was going to drive itself. We were wrong. This season the ingredients really were all there.

Anyway. it's the end of the season now and I've found some old Cream songs.........

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37207

MadJohn wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

when you say its been nowhere near as disappointing mad john is that because your expectations at the start of the season were much lower than they were in the scott season ?

in terms of points/games won and lost, the 2 seasons are almost identical.

grabec wrote:

But this season, unlike the Scotty one, there's been the impression that all the ingredients have been there for success, and that the things that have gone wrong could very easily have been rectified.

Wilson, like Scott, has been denied the use of his best players at times this season. But he has also undeniably made mistakes. His signings last season were mainly bang on the money. This season, with the exception (so far) of Collins and to a lesser extent McCunnie and Moore, they have simply not been up to scratch. Assuming DW is still in charge for next season then he simply must improve in this area if his position is not to become untenable. Because, while this has been a largely forgettable season on the pitch, my expectations for next season are actually higher. We have now had a season at this level for the manager to hopefully see what works and what/who doesn't. The signing of Collins was encouraging in that respect, but we need more.

You all know my opinion on Wilson, but I expect him to be here next season as the ship of state that is IOR seems to respond very slowly to the helm in such matters. I don't anticipate any real change in things next season as we've ended the season as confused as we started it ....there should be a sign or at least an indication even at this stage that things are starting to gel amongst the players, I have seen no such sign. I don't go into a season expecting anything, that way you're not disappointed, but I do want to see an indication that somethings coming together, it hasn't. Let's see what happens over the coming months, which could be interesting :wink:

grabec · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:21 am

Nobodys Hero wrote:

I love the way some of you say our critisisms are way over the top, and that its at amataer dramatics proportions.........like its only football you know.....its not life and death.

Well foook offf...............if I wanted to discuss life and death, because I could if I wanted to, I would type in http://www.LifeAnd Death.com and discuss it there.

As this is the Pooliebunker.....................I will say what the foook I like........about HUFC. If I say its shite........and that Danny Wilson is a bounder. It what I think.

I never said it was more important than life or death.........or that there isnt some world event that puts footy in perspective.

If thats your argument for keeping Wilson then we may as well all give up watching.

Now foook off the lot of you. I am trying to sleep here.

"Ah, grief makes us precise." L.Cohen

:laugh:

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:55 pm

Nobodys Hero wrote:

As this is the Pooliebunker.....................I will say what the foook I like........about HUFC. If I say its shite........and that Danny Wilson is a bounder. It what I think.

It's a pity you don't allow myself and others to say what we think. :roll:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:12 pm

Obafemi Obsession wrote:

It's a pity you don't allow myself and others to say what we think. :roll:

But come on Mr.OO....some/most of it was very very tedious....even you must admit that!!!! confised

Just about sums it up.

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