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 Post subject: Clapping Boland Off
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:21 pm 
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Am I missing something?

He lost his head and lashed out and deserved to go yet got applauded off. If he cant keep his cool as most experienced player in the team then who can?

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where you to see it. dsid you see all the match live to what the team had to put up with!


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It shouldn't matter what they had to put up with, Tree is right (am I really saying this!), Boland of all the lads should know better.

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where you to see it. dsid you see all the match live to what the team had to put up with!


Anyone fancy translating this to English?

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where you to see it. dsid you see all the match live to what the team had to put up with!


I really, really, really wish I could decipher that. :roll:


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I think what he is suggesting is Tree wasn't at the game and didn't witness the tactics that the brighton team utilised, therefore Tree should not been suggesting that Willie Boland shouldn't have been clapped as he left the field of play!

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It was Violent conduct, the ref was well within he's right to send him off. Just because he didn't break his leg doesn't mean he didn't commit the offence.

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 Post subject: Re: Clapping Boland Off
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you just knew he was going off tho


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How far away from the "violent conduct" where you stood Mr ptap?? I was almost on line with it The little get was rolling around on the floor as if he'd been shot.. Yellow at the most... Why do you think he asked that brainless lino for his opinion as well .. Maybe because he wasn't sure he was right ...take it from me he wasn't right...


I was on my way to get a drink, and was three yards from the incident. The No 7 (Cox) was a conman. Brighton collectively were the biggest bunch of pricks I have seen at the Vic in many a year. Their fans were impeccable, their players were arseholes.


Agreed. I can accept losing (jesus, we're used to it). But to filth like that..... stpid

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From where I was stood, Boland should never have kicked the lad, fair enough he made a right meal of it, A yellow card would have done though.

Another balls up from the ref, but how many did he make today rage


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boland kicked the legs of the player as he was running away so there was only ever going to be one outcome.
the ref couldnt cope with today
our players must have been wrought with emotion i know i was after john orleys eulogy no wonder we didnt perform as well as we can

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How far away from the "violent conduct" where you stood Mr ptap?? I was almost on line with it The little get was rolling around on the floor as if he'd been shot.. Yellow at the most... Why do you think he asked that brainless lino for his opinion as well .. Maybe because he wasn't sure he was right ...take it from me he wasn't right...


About 15 to 20 yards, half a dozen steps up in the Town End, police box corner, I always stand there.

Boland kicked out at the lad, end of, he shouldn't have, if he didn't he would have stayed on the pitch.

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 Post subject: Re: Clapping Boland Off
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It was a red card, he should know better not to do that. If it the the other way round and one of there players did it to one of ours we'd expect the same out come, or we'd be having this same debate saying why didnt he get sent off.

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i totally agree but it was a sending off. The ref was terrible and as from his lineman, they might as well not been there

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BTW Mr Hamster how can you call the ref in one post saying he was a clown and then agree with an obvious misjudgement the next?? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead



Read the posts ffs.

I said the ref was a disgrace and he was. Boland should know better and was rightly given a red card. You cant try to kick people.

ps and to the clown who I think said I was not at the game, im afraid I was.

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Only because the guy made a meal of it doesnt mean its not a red card ffs.

Oh and kicking someone is a red card offence, I fail to see how anyone can say "it should only be a yellow". Her aimed a kick at a player and thats a red card offence.

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 Post subject: Re: Clapping Boland Off
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:14 pm 
He lost his head....he deserved to be sent off....end off!!!! confised confised

How anyone can say otherwise is deluded!!!! :roll: :grin:


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He lost his head....he deserved to be sent off....end off!!!! confised confised

How anyone can say otherwise is deluded!!!! :roll: :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Clapping Boland Off
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yeah but what was in the minds of those people applauding a man for getting sent off and costing us the game. it wasnt as if it was a sacrificial handball on the line with a minute to go. it was a petulant childish and completely uneccessary act given we had already won the throw in.
of course the little prick made a meal of it. thats only to be expected in the modern game.
rather than applauding the idiot i felt like asking him for a contribution to my 20 quid entrance money.


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People are condoning the rolling around Mr OSP they are just saying that Boland deserved to be sent off, I happen to agree with that, yes he made a meal of it but that is modern football you get players that act like twats from time to time but at the end of the day Boland aimed a kick at their player which is classed as violent conduct which leads to a red card.

Also I reckon their player should have been booked for the charge into Boland which provoked the kick from him.


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Did he definitely kick him? I thought he'd just thrown the lad to the ground and thought yellow card. if he kicked him then you can only expect a red really.


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as the lad ran away willie kicked out at his legs

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The Chipster has it right. He shouldnt have been applauded off. I can understand his frustration during the game (with ref and tactics) but he should have walked back to the dressing room in silence. He didnt deserve to be applauded and he did deserve, in this age, to be sent off.

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I also didn't clap him off, I just stood there shaking my head


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:54 pm 
People around me clapped so I clapped....Then I realised what I was doing then looked at Mr.Parmo and then we both just shook our heads!!!! confised confised

Well actually....Mr.Parmo went off it about people applauding Willie!!!! confised :laugh: :evil: :laugh: :grin:

And he was 100% right!!!! :grin:

I won't say '110% right'....cos only divvy Footballers say that!!!! :roll: stpid :laugh: :grin:


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Boland kicked out at their player, there wasn't much contact, but that is irrelevant, the ref couldn't do much else but send him off, one of the few things he got right today. I didn't applaud him off, because I was to busy thinking we would have come back to win this, and now we are going to struggle.

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where I was sitting, everybody disagreed with me that Boland had kicked out at their player!! They also disagreed with me that he had shoved him to the ground!! Were their eyes shut? Or am I blind?
I knew he was getting sent off!!
He should be fined two weeks wages, no problem.
He cost us the chance to win the game at the very least.

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boland is a very well paid professional. his unproffessional selfish kick spoilt the game for those us who are not very well paid but had paid to watch the game. the manager has said he deserved to go and his subsequent 3 game ban.

given all this, can just one of the 2000+ people who applauded him off the field explain what was in their mind when they did so, because im curious.

oh and when i learnt to play the game, kicking a bloke who has his back to you once the ball is out of play is both cheating and thuggery.



Sometimes Chip you come across as a right whinger, chip shoulder is more apt. What about the possibility that the 'applause' was not for Willie Boland but was an instant reaction to try and muster some kind of encouragement to the rest of the team and also to the supporters on a very emotional day?

But that wouldn't fit would it?

And for the record I haven't played football at any level, but,I think you played at a shiit level

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i have played rugby and football at an exceptable level
so here goes
boland had the incident won he was about to get the free kick and the bloke booked
but his petulant kick and shove brought an end to that possibilty
it was a reaction to a bad tackle
part of the blame lies with the ref who let things get out of hand he showed that when he booked whing late in the game
too late for some
he had little control of a high octane game due to the circumstances
no excuse for boland senior pro and all that
i think if you go to a 50 grounds in the country you will find that the home team would applaud there player despite being sent off as half of them would have no idea what went on prior to the sending off
sadly this is not the first time mr boland has lost his cool and marched and it wont be the last
if he is losing wages then it can't be doing him any harm

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:50 pm 
There's a sliding scale, isn;t there, ranging from completely unjustified sendings off such as Jack Ross' and Ben Clark's against Hull , all the way to two-foot lunges and the like. In between are incidents you accept are punishable but they happen in circumstances where the decision is unfair because similar fouls by the other side have been let go by the ref.

We didn't see the kick yesterday, just the shove, which you have to admit is something that happens every other match and the shover doesn't get sent off, usually. That, together with the things Brighton were getting away with, sort of explains why I clapped.


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Under the rules he deserved to be sent off.

Clapping a bloke for getting sent off like that is nuts.

I'd love to hear a good explanation from anybody who clapped him off.

I totally agree with Mr Hamster, Mr Fireball, Mr Mutley and Mr Parmo.




And by the way, if it had been the other way around who would have thought it wrong for their player to be sent off?

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Stimulation? :shock:

They can't do that on the pitch, surely?

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Stimulation? :shock:

They can't do that on the pitch, surely?


You obviously ain't seen that picture of Whinger posted by the gremlin have you ...

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I don't think that I want to! :shock: :uhoh: bbolt

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Under the rules he deserved to be sent off.

Clapping a bloke for getting sent off like that is nuts.

I'd love to hear a good explanation from anybody who clapped him off.

I totally agree with Mr Hamster, Mr Fireball, Mr Mutley and Mr Parmo.




And by the way, if it had been the other way around who would have thought it wrong for their player to be sent off?


Another member of the Film Actors Guild. :roll:
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I would be overjoyed to hear you explain the basis for that comment... :roll:

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Under the rules he deserved to be sent off.

Why oh why would anybody deem it cool to clap a player who has been deservedly sent off?

I just don't get where you're coming from?

Unless you advocate that the referee should implement the rules that he wants to and not the ones that he doesn't?

Or that he should apply them differently to our players than he does with the opposition?

Next you'll be saying that cos technically Pools bought the match ball they should have just taken it home with them when things didn't go how you wanted them to.

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You just keep reading the bits of posts you want. :roll:


You started it.

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read the post again, im curious, as was the original poster. im simply asking what thought process enters the mind of fans actually getting up out of their seats to applaud a bloke who has foolishly got himself sent off.

its a simple question. if you were one of the thousands applauding boland for doing what he did, then why did you feel the bloke deserved a standing ovation ?

ffs we will be cheering own goals next. :roll:



What about the 45 minutes of effort before that moment? I didn't applaud him for getting sent off I applauded for the graft he put in before then, I applauded him for not diving like a cheat every time he got kicked, I applauded him for his guts and fight or doesn't that count?
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Its maybe their way of saying hard luck, the cheating bastads got to you..


I think that's exactly it. You wouldn't 'clap off' for a dangerous tackle, but there are grey areas, even if you don't condone the offence


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read the post again, im curious, as was the original poster. im simply asking what thought process enters the mind of fans actually getting up out of their seats to applaud a bloke who has foolishly got himself sent off.

its a simple question. if you were one of the thousands applauding boland for doing what he did, then why did you feel the bloke deserved a standing ovation ?

ffs we will be cheering own goals next. :roll:



What about the 45 minutes of effort before that moment? I didn't applaud him for getting sent off I applauded for the graft he put in before then, I applauded him for not diving like a cheat every time he got kicked, I applauded him for his guts and fight or doesn't that count?
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If he'd managed to stick around and do 90 minutes of effort, graft and guts then he would have deseved a good round of applause.

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Is that for me or Mr Ripper? It would be wasted on Mr Ripper as he's too cross at the moment, so I'd better have it


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Is that for me or Mr Ripper? It would be wasted on Mr Ripper as he's too cross at the moment, so I'd better have it


rolfl

I'm not cross at all Ms G.

I'm just a little perplexed by the one sided cack that I'm reading from some people who I thought had more sense. :wink:

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Is that for me or Mr Ripper? It would be wasted on Mr Ripper as he's too cross at the moment, so I'd better have it


rolfl

I'm not cross at all Ms G.

I'm just a little perplexed by the one sided cack that I'm reading from some people who I thought had more sense. :wink:

sctatchinghead

Of course its one sided! I was asked for the thought processes which made me clap Boland as he left the pitch, which I have...so...how can I have two sides to that sctatchinghead
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That's fair enough Mr Paddy- I was more referring to some of the other stuff I've read this morning. :wink:

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That's fair enough Mr Paddy- I was more referring to some of the other stuff I've read this morning. :wink:

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I have just watched the Willie Boland incident on virgin several times and at no point did Boland kick or aim a kick at the Brighton player, he pushed him to the ground after being badly fouled himself.
1) Why didn't Cox get a yellow card for the initial foul?

2) Why wasn't Elphick yellow carded for the handball in the penalty area, then subsequently sent off for two yellows ?

3) Why wasn't Savage pulled up for handling the ball before he scored ?

Brightons tactics and antics on the field where nothing short of digracefull.
If fans wanted to clap Wille Boland from the pitch surely it was up to them


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:02 pm 
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P.M.T. wrote:
I have just watched the Willie Boland incident on virgin several times and at no point did Boland kick or aim a kick at the Brighton player, he pushed him to the ground after being badly fouled himself.
1) Why didn't Cox get a yellow card for the initial foul?

2) Why wasn't Elphick yellow carded for the handball in the penalty area, then subsequently sent off for two yellows ?

3) Why wasn't Savage pulled up for handling the ball before he scored ?

Brightons tactics and antics on the field where nothing short of digracefull.
If fans wanted to clap Wille Boland from the pitch surely it was up to them
agree p.m.t. it is up to people to do that but it angers me that bolo helped lose the game by his action and its not somthing that i would applaud.

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